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[rambis]

Sorry, I meant free

Maybe espn.com if you have a cable login.

 

[hbkdx12]

Will there be any legal way to watch the Finals online? I don't have a tv and I've been watching the games on TNT overtime.

Legal? Espn website/app but you need a cable subscription or know the login of someone who has one

 

[otapnam]

Abc.com? It's on national TV

 

[Bread]

damn, good first quarter.

if the cavs can keep their shooting this hot they might win the series.

 

[RedAssedApe]

Abc.com? It's on national TV

you can but you still have to login with tv provider credentials to watch live tv

 

[hbkdx12]

damn, good first quarter.

if the cavs can keep their shooting this hot they might win the series.

Kerr got too cute trying to start his role players

That being said Mcadoo and Varajeo are the only thing keeping warriors in it right now

 

[Celcius]

damn, good first quarter.

if the cavs can keep their shooting this hot they might win the series.

Kerr got too cute trying to start his role players

That being said Mcadoo and Varajeo are the only thing keeping warriors in it right now

For a second you guys had me thinking I was missing the game haha

 

[Hazelhurst]

I want the Warriors to win, but I have a feeling the Cavs are going to do it this year.

 

[Iadien]

I want the Warriors to win, but I have a feeling the Cavs are going to do it this year.

It's a Cleveland sport's team... they're not winning shit.

 

[Jonm1010]

Um lets start off with the fact that the best player in basketball (Yes he still is that) is WELL rested. LeBron James has fresh legs and along with that he doesn't have to shoulder the load. So yes love and Kyrie might have an off game but James can easily offset that with a (35-40 point night if needed. They have a very underrated bench and team in general. Fry can come in an give you 15 points if needed, Dellie can give you needed points,defense intensity and assist. Richard Jefferson bring scoring still athleticism and experience, and shumpert bring scoring, DEFENSE, and athleticism. Long story short this team is deep, very good and criminally underrated and undervalued. But the games have to be played and it is on them to prove who they are and can be collectively.

Ahhh, those aren't really analytics....which is what you bolded. Just FYI.

 

[hbkdx12]

Um lets start off with the fact that the best player in basketball (Yes he still is that) is WELL rested. LeBron James has fresh legs and along with that he doesn't have to shoulder the load. So yes love and Kyrie might have an off game but James can easily offset that with a (35-40 point night if needed. They have a very underrated bench and team in general. Fry can come in an give you 15 points if needed, Dellie can give you needed points,defense intensity and assist. Richard Jefferson bring scoring still athleticism and experience, and shumpert bring scoring, DEFENSE, and athleticism. Long story short this team is deep, very good and criminally underrated and undervalued. But the games have to be played and it is on them to prove who they are and can be collectively.

The cavs are a good team. I'm not arguing that they aren't. However, none of what you said suggests that they possess clear advantages over GSW

 

[Cheebo]

Um lets start off with the fact that the best player in basketball (Yes he still is that) is WELL rested. LeBron James has fresh legs and along with that he doesn't have to shoulder the load. So yes love and Kyrie might have an off game but James can easily offset that with a (35-40 point night if needed. They have a very underrated bench and team in general. Fry can come in an give you 15 points if needed, Dellie can give you needed points,defense intensity and assist. Richard Jefferson bring scoring still athleticism and experience, and shumpert bring scoring, DEFENSE, and athleticism. Long story short this team is deep, very good and criminally underrated and undervalued. But the games have to be played and it is on them to prove who they are and can be collectively.

Uh...those aren't analytics.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Uh...those aren't analytics.

Have you heard the one about the bulls fucking the cows?

 

[RedAssedApe]

dem intangibles lol

 

[Cheebo]

What does analytics show? I wonder? What did they tell us the spurs should have been. It doesn't matter that was the point of holding it. I know what I see and what is apparent. I mean you can look up the numbers and James is playing less minutes than any of his other trips to the finals... is that not huge? Analytics in my opinion tell us very little things can change from game to game.

Then why would you reply and bold a question from someone asking for analytics that show Cavs have a chance?

And the minutes argument will get you nowhere. You know who has been playing less minutes going into the finals than James? And played less than him in the regular season? Steph Curry.

 

[Bread]

What does analytics show? I wonder? What did they tell us the spurs should have been. It doesn't matter that was the point of holding it. I know what I see and what is apparent. I mean you can look up the numbers and James is playing less minutes than any of his other trips to the finals... is that not huge? Analytics in my opinion tell us very little things can change from game to game.

My favorite analytic is effort given per game

 

[Elwood Blues]

Michael Wilbon has a gaf account?

 

[nillah]

The keys to beating the Warriors much like the Raptors is stopping their two headed guard combos, the rest of the dominos will fall.

 

[beat]

Isn't "a steady parade of three point makes that should never go in" also intangibles then?

 

[nillah]

I want the Warriors to win, but I have a feeling the Cavs are going to do it this year.

So that would leave the finals series between the two at 1-1 much like the Lakers and Boston finals of the mid 2000s...

Edit: forgot the Gasol/Kobe lakers beat the Dwight magic that one year

 

[Stabby McSter]

Abc.com? It's on national TV

WatchABC ain't everywhere though

 

[RedAssedApe]

WatchABC ain't everywhere though

watchespn then? regardless to watch live tv on either websites/apps you need cable tv login

 

[Elwood Blues]

The keys to beating the Warriors much like the Raptors is stopping their two headed guard combos, the rest of the dominos will fall.

Rozen and Lowry aren't even close to Thompson and Curry.

 

[Eos]

Rozen and Lowry aren't even close to Thompson and Curry.

No one said they were

 

[Stabby McSter]

damn, good first quarter.

if the cavs can keep their shooting this hot they might win the series.

go sharks

 

[Elwood Blues]

No one said they were

He said the key to stopping the warriors is the same as the raptors. It's not the same if the players are on the warriors are way better.

 

[CaptBirdman]

This post is nonsensical. The reason he gets a ring is he would have played more than half the season for the Cavs the year they won the title if they won.

Historically every player who was active on a winning team that season gets a ring, even when traded or cut.

And I've always, ALWAYS thought it was the stupidest practice, and in this case would be even more ridiculous as he would be guaranteed a ring he didn't earn.

He didn't play this season for the Cavs, he was just hurt, riding pine. I've argued against this for a minute.

But yes, your point is correct... I'm just saying I don't agree with the practice. My Vlade comment is an exaggeration of this concept (wasn't on the roster of the championship team when they won). Sorry if my point didn't come across clear enough, wasn't looking to start an argument.

 

[Reptars Revenge]

Anybody know where to find the adidas finals cavs hat with the signature F on it? Thanks.

 

[PadWarrior]

Draymond is gonna bounce back against the Cavs front court.

 

[TTG]

Michael Wilbon has a gaf account?

I just cancelled my DVR's daily recording of PTI today. They used to be so good! The Daily Show and PTI, there must have been years where I missed less than 10 episodes of each a year.

I should mention I don't remotely care if he's a fan of the Warriors or not, I feel obligated to say this because sports is so partisan, but here's how he started the show today:

https://youtu.be/Gv7D0QK7qhs?t=1m14s


Talk about a fall from grace. Great insight Wilbon.

 

[nillah]

He said the key to stopping the warriors is the same as the raptors. It's not the same if the players are on the warriors are way better.

Durant and Westbrook are as good as they come and everyone knows if you can put a hault to their shooting they're all but finished

 

[beat]

Sorry, I meant free

Could go to a bar or maybe some restaurant* with a TV?

* try to pick one that'll be open till the end of the game and isn't busy. Maybe they do more delivery than eat-in.

 

[thehypocrite]

Every statistical model favors the GSW to win over the Cavs. No stat out there will favor the Cavs to win the finals. This just means that in order to win the Cavs need to elevate themselves to a higher level or drag down the GSW below their potential.

No way around that.

 

[bionic77]

Have you heard the one about the bulls fucking the cows?

Who would fuck all the cows though between Lebron or Curry? It can't just be one or two cows, we are talking about the NBA championship.

I guarantee whoever wins that stat wins the series.

 

[offtopic]

Durant and Westbrook are as good as they come and everyone knows if you can put a hault to their shooting they're all but finished

Westbrook can shoot? Did I enter an alternate universe?

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Who would fuck all the cows though between Lebron or Curry? It can't just be one or two cows, we are talking about the NBA championship.

I guarantee whoever wins that stat wins the series.

Curry would sprain an ankle before he could even finish one cow, and LeBron would unfollow the cows on Twitter. They both lose.

 

[bionic77]

Curry would sprain an ankle before he could even finish one cow, and LeBron would unfollow the cows on Twitter. They both lose.

The only player in any sport I know of who is a lock to fuck all the cows is Big Ben.

Curry and Lebron are just not at his level.

 

[hbkdx12]

Every statistical model favors the GSW to win over the Cavs. No stat out there will favor the Cavs to win the finals. This just means that in order to win the Cavs need to elevate themselves to a higher level AND drag down the GSW below their potential.

No way around that.

FTFY

As far as winning the series is concerned, a whole lot has to go right for the cavs while simultaneously having a whole lot go wrong for GS.

GS isn't going to be playing well and still get outplayed.

 

[King Tubby]

If this plays out the way I hope it will (Cavs winning), a quote from one of my favorite movies as a teen will remind me of this entire season regarding the whole 73 wins and all that.

"There's two bulls standing on top of a mountain. The younger one says to the older one: "Hey pop, let's say we run down there and fuck one of them cows". The older one says: "No son. Lets walk down and fuck 'em all".

Weird, I remember that from the Sopranos.

 

[CaptBirdman]

So much crow will be eaten in this thread, the bird might go extinct.


Cavs don't stand a chance?

Let me remind you, this Golden State team just struggled against the Thunder-- a team that habitually gives up 4th quater leads, turns the ball over at an absurd clip, has two chuckers that cannot close out close games and choke over and over.

This Cavs team took the Warriors to 6 games with only LeBron at the helm. Now Kyrie and Love are healthy, they've added Jefferson and Frye, who, if you don't know, is the best 3 point shooter in the playoffs right now and are playing their best basketball, with not to mention the best player in the world hungry to bring his hometown a championship for the first time in over 50 years.

I would honestly be surprised if Golden State wins 2 games.

Cavs are the better team, and are better coached. They have a far more deadly bench (Frye, Shumpert, Jefferson, Dellevadova, Mo Williams, James Jones) and are better top to bottom.

This is going no more than 6 games, Cavs. That is, unless the refs and NBA artificially drag this series out.

 

[beat]

Weird, I remember that from the Sopranos.

The joke might predate the show.

Also, the way I've heard it before, the young bull says he's going run down there and then the old one says he's going to walk.

(BTW, if this is about the experience that comes with age, why did the Thunder eliminate the Spurs?)

 

[Gigglepoo]

Cavs don't stand a chance?

Of course they have a chance! Did anyone sincerely say they didn't? But the Cavs aren't as good as the Warriors and would have to reverse a lot of trends to come out on top. That's what people are saying.

 

[Springhettios]

So much crow will be eaten in this thread, the bird might go extinct.


Cavs don't stand a chance?

Let me remind you, this Golden State team just struggled against the Thunder-- a team that habitually gives up 4th quater leads, turns the ball over at an absurd clip, has two chuckers that cannot close out close games and choke over and over.

This Cavs team took the Warriors to 6 games with only LeBron at the helm. Now Kyrie and Love are healthy, they've added Jefferson and Frye, who, if you don't know, is the best 3 point shooter in the playoffs right now and are playing their best basketball, with not to mention the best player in the world hungry to bring his hometown a championship for the first time in over 50 years.

I would honestly be surprised if Golden State wins 2 games.

Cavs are the better team, and are better coached. They have a far more deadly bench (Frye, Shumpert, Jefferson, Dellevadova, Mo Williams, James Jones) and are better top to bottom.

This is going no more than 6 games, Cavs. That is, unless the refs and NBA artificially drag this series out.

This statement makes your whole post void. Seriously??

 

[Ninja Scooter]

So much crow will be eaten in this thread, the bird might go extinct.


Cavs don't stand a chance?

Let me remind you, this Golden State team just struggled against the Thunder-- a team that habitually gives up 4th quater leads, turns the ball over at an absurd clip, has two chuckers that cannot close out close games and choke over and over.

This Cavs team took the Warriors to 6 games with only LeBron at the helm. Now Kyrie and Love are healthy, they've added Jefferson and Frye, who, if you don't know, is the best 3 point shooter in the playoffs right now and are playing their best basketball, with not to mention the best player in the world hungry to bring his hometown a championship for the first time in over 50 years.

I would honestly be surprised if Golden State wins 2 games.

Cavs are the better team, and are better coached. They have a far more deadly bench (Frye, Shumpert, Jefferson, Dellevadova, Mo Williams, James Jones) and are better top to bottom.

This is going no more than 6 games, Cavs. That is, unless the refs and NBA artificially drag this series out.

Have you considered auditioning for First Take as a Skip Bayless replacement? This is the exact kind of blatantly and proudly uninformed "analysis" ESPN just might be looking for.

 

[CaptBirdman]

Of course they have a chance! Did anyone sincerely say they didn't? But the Cavs aren't as good as the Warriors and would have to reverse a lot of trends to come out on top. That's what people are saying.

By what measure are people basing that on?

They've not been watching the playoffs if they think the Warriors are the better team (or are Warriors fans/Cavs (LeBron) haters).

Didn't the Blunder take the Warriors to 7 games?

You know, the team without LeBron James, Kyrie and Love and Frye and Smith and Dellevadova and...?

The Thunder cannot score. They rely on Durant and Westbrook, and when they're choking, who else gives you buckets for that team?

That's the team Golden State was down 3-1 to? I'm sorry but Cavs go up 3-1, you better believe the Warriors are cooked.

If the Thunder out rebounded GS, then GG. The Cavs are monsters on the boards, with Love, LeBron and Tristan Thompson. You win the rebound game and you win most of the time. That's another edge Cleveland has.


I just don't see what the bandwagon sees.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

By what measure are people basing that on?

They've not been watching the playoffs if they think the Warriors are the better team (or are Warriors fans/Cavs (LeBron) haters).

Didn't the Blunder take the Warriors to 7 games?

You know, the team without LeBron James, Kyrie and Love and Frye and Smith and Dellevadova and...?

The Thunder cannot score. They rely on Durant and Westbrook, and when they're choking, who else gives you buckets for that team?

That's the team Golden State was down 3-1 to? I'm sorry but Cavs go up 3-1, you better believe the Warriors are cooked.

If the Thunder out rebounded GS, then GG. The Cavs are monsters on the boards, with Love, LeBron and Tristan Thompson. You win the rebound game and you win most of the time. That's another edge Cleveland has.


I just don't see what the bandwagon sees.

Of course you don't. That would require basketball knowledge.

This thread is littered with posts explaining why the Thunder were able to do what they did, and why the Cavs will probably not be able to repeat that gameplan even if they tried. Personell is different. Matchups are different. This "basketball arithmetic" that usually begins with "Well If the Cavs took the Warriors to 6 games last year..." is a sure sign that the person probably doesn't know what they are talking about.

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Hot takes everywhere.

lol

Keep the trollage spam to a minimum there, juniors don't want to end up banned.

 

[thehypocrite]

The biggest minus of OKC is their tendency to beat themselves. I don't think the Cavs will do that but they don't have the same strenghts of OKC. The Cavs ain't OKC but that goes for the good & the bad.

 

[kaiju]

So much crow will be eaten in this thread, the bird might go extinct.


Cavs don't stand a chance?

Let me remind you, this Golden State team just struggled against the Thunder-- a team that habitually gives up 4th quater leads, turns the ball over at an absurd clip, has two chuckers that cannot close out close games and choke over and over.

This Cavs team took the Warriors to 6 games with only LeBron at the helm. Now Kyrie and Love are healthy, they've added Jefferson and Frye, who, if you don't know, is the best 3 point shooter in the playoffs right now and are playing their best basketball, with not to mention the best player in the world hungry to bring his hometown a championship for the first time in over 50 years.

I would honestly be surprised if Golden State wins 2 games.

Cavs are the better team, and are better coached. They have a far more deadly bench (Frye, Shumpert, Jefferson, Dellevadova, Mo Williams, James Jones) and are better top to bottom.

I'd say the thread has been pretty evenly split between who wins in here.

I only need to skim your post to see your just throwing out a lot of salt and undermining the Warriors in the process.

The proof is in your statement that Frye is the best 3pt shooter in the playoffs when you HAVE to know this is staring you in the face:

But your comment about the Cavs with the better bench just ices it for me. You really have no knowledge about your opponent if your going to discount Golden State's bench. That's all that really needs to be said here.

I wish Cavs fans (or better yet Warriors haters) could just say this: I think the Warriors are a great team. But the Cavs will win. It's easy really, no salt required.

 

[CaptBirdman]

This statement makes your whole post void. Seriously??

Your incredulity makes me question if you've watched the Warriors or the Cavs this season with a critical eye.

The Warriors do not have set plays. Their literal game plan is to set as many screens as it takes for Curry to get free, and launch threes all game. When that breaks down, have whoever has the ball in their hands make a bail out play, or pass to the open man, and (you guessed it) launch threes, even with a man in your face. It's terrible basketball and teaches the younger generation poor fundamentals.

The Cavs on the other hand run set plays, make adjustments and play overall smoother basketball (except for when Kyrie goes into iso mode, which can last an entire quarter).

This boils down to the coaching. The Warriors had been winning because they're talented-- this is why Kerr could miss half a season and Walton could "coach" the team and they didn't miss a beat. It's a sham that he won CoTY when the Raptors coach or Thunder coach probably should have won. Yeah yeah, 73 wins. But that wasn't Kerr.