Too bad about all that undemocratic early voting
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AP: Clinton clinches Democratic Nomination
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Too bad about all that undemocratic early voting
It takes a special kind of logic to think that the opponent clinching the contest can lead to victory.
I hope they do and Bernie wins Cali. Only so all his supporters can see it doesn't mean anything.
Cesare Borgia
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Those are extremes he won't go to IMO; maybe a videotape of him saying those words behind scenes could be leaked, but I can't imagine him openly saying those things in a debate or on the stump.
I'd be more apt to believe his next disaster will be similar to the judge situation in terms of very awkward racism or sexism. For instance imagine him saying Chicago's high violence rate is due to Obama setting a poor example for black people ("he doesn't follow the laws so they don't either"). Or imagine he responds to a temperament question by saying Hillary's "time of the month" means she isn't qualified to be president. Those are the type of ignorant things he says.
I'd imagine Obama will bait him on Thursday and we'll see what happens. Gotta say I'm surprised and a bit concerned about Trump's post convention implosion. I would have hoped for this to happen after he becomes the nominee officially.
Stormhammer
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can someone give me a link to some juicy stats so i can post them on facebook to quiet the bern victims
hammysaurusrex
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To be fair, I imagine a huge chunk of Hillary supporters will be staying home instead of hitting the booths... because they already voted.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Early voting will probably save Hillary in CA.
But even without it, she was not getting less than 30% of the vote, which is all she needs.
But what about the p=m*v?!
Even if Bernie won in a blowout it wouldn't somehow magically make Hillary no longer the nominee.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
If he somehow got over 70% of the vote in CA, and won NJ he could make a solid case.
That won't happen though.
Already Torn
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It would be like that final scene in Glory where everyone dies but they make a strong message.
Except in reality nobody would care.
BobTheFork
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I actually think if you piped some Bobby Knight quotes through Drumpf, it would sound worse than some of the things he has said.
Warren is not going to be the VP. Not only is she ideologically opposed to Hillary, that asshole and his pickup truck would move across state lines again and run for Senate.
I think Kaine is the guy. It's boring as fuck and makes sense.
Perez I think is second most likely. I don't know if Dominican American is going to get you the same demographic help as Castro, but he's super fucking smart and his dad gained citizenship by punching Nazi's and that's going to go over super well as a life story.
Castro is exciting, but it means you are really going all in on a voting bloc showing up who never has (but who might show up anyway bc of Trump). Also, Castro's mom was batshit insane and he doesn't speak Spanish. That said, he was a fucking amazing mayor for San Antonio and used public/private partnerships to really make that city amazing. So, she might value him solely for his ability to actually govern.
GabeTheGrouch76
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Congrats to Hillary. Save for whatever disruptions Sanders may attempt to make, this marks the battleground as her vs. Trump now for sure.
AntraxSuicide
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I also don't want Warren. She's fine in ideology, but like you mentioned, I don't really trust special elections in MA.
Castro not speaking Spanish and having less major govt experience could hurt his chances, and I think Hillary in particular is more policy/experience oriented.
I'm basically down to Perez or Kaine.
Orbis Tabula
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This is super late, but damn do I love this analogy.
GTP_Daverytimes
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Wait a min, has the superdelegates voted? I mean, yes there isn't a huge chance that they change their votes but why count votes which dont exist? Am I crazy in thinking that votes should only be counted after cast?
Once a candidate has 50% +1 of all pledged + super delegates on their side they become the presumptive nominee. Not the nominee full stop, the presumptive.
whyamihere
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I think it's Perez if Hillary's still in a close race in a month, Kaine if she's up by a lot. Though I hope she picks Perez. I would've preferred Baccera, but oh well.
That's why they're the presumptive nominee.
That's why they're the presumptive nominee.
The leading candidate doesn't become the official nominee until the convention. Before that, they're referred to as just the presumptive nominee.
Superdelegates don't vote until the convention, but considering the vast majority of them say they're committed to Hillary, none have changed their stance in the last year, and Hillary is leading in both pledged delegates and the popular vote, there's absolutely no reason to think they will vote for someone else at the convention. If you want to ignore supers altogether until the convention, she is still the presumptive nominee based on her lead in the popular vote and pledged delegate count.
Thanks; that's me exercising extreme restraint on the topic, lest I get myself in trouble.
Tal Shiar Agent
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I thought he needed some ridiculous number like 97% of the remaining delegates to get the nomination?
metalslimer
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Pledged delegates don't vote until the convention either.
https://theintercept.com/2016/06/07/perfect-end-to-democratic-primary-anonymous-super-delegates-declare-winner-through-media/
A perfect ending indeed, now let's mentally prepare for Trump as president of the US and fucking the world up.
A perfect ending indeed, now let's mentally prepare for Trump as president of the US and fucking the world up.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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shit, I couldn't last past the first 20 seconds
Why wait when he's imploding now, making it even easier for Hillary?
Tal Shiar Agent
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Help me out here, what is Perez's full name?
Darryl M R
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The Red Election
I don't think he can say or do anything that will actually harm his chances (at least it seems like it up until now) while the same cannot be said for Clinton (Wall Street speech release or FBI investigation release might screw with her chances).
RadioJoNES64
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Must be internally imploding.
Qwerty710710
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You'll catch me dead voting for that bitch ass Clinton. I don't like Trump either but I gotta hold my nose and vote for him.
Trojita
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Abuela's got this.
It's about ethics in voting
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Why?
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Not possible this late, unless his plan is to get on enough ballots to make Trump president yet have no real chance at winning since he likely would not be on 270 electoral votes worth of states.
I just don't like any of them Trump doesn't hide that he hates minorites and Hillary just sounds so fake in regards to race relations. It doesn't help that Bill was blaming black people for their problems.
My mail in ballot is in since like 3 weeks ago in CA for Clinton.
According to CA primary rules that entitles me to a second vote in person and a chance at a daily double vote to make it count for double the value. That's like 20 votes if I don't hit a whammy.
Happy Primary Day CA, we're inconsequential but lets act like we're not!
According to CA primary rules that entitles me to a second vote in person and a chance at a daily double vote to make it count for double the value. That's like 20 votes if I don't hit a whammy.
Happy Primary Day CA, we're inconsequential but lets act like we're not!
Trojita
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DragonSworne
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I keep getting Bernie ads on Neogaf. Why is Bernie wasting his campaign money?
Anoregon
The flight plan I just filed with the agency list me, my men, Dr. Pavel here. But only one of you!
YOU'RE the real misogynist
Simon Belmont
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You'd think math was invented in his thirties, the way Bernie treats it.
AntraxSuicide
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Tom Perez, Sec. of Labor.
What a terrible post to end your time on gaf.
Dash_Riprock
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You will be missed.
*Tag quote*
Indeed. I love that you'd rather go with a racist, misogynist asshole. Says a lot about you.
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