Support NeoGAF

[klonere]

I'm pretty sure the shooter is wearing traditional African garb and doing a black power fist in his Facebook profile picture.

The news is going to be all over this.

It's all over. We are forever stuck in a violent degenerate dialogue now.

 

[backflip10019]

http://www.tmz.com/2016/07/08/jada-pinkett-smith-cop-killings-police-dallas/

Jada Pinkett Smith weighs in. video inside

So she's justifying the killing of 5 police officers because the black community is desperate? What a piece of shit.

 

[Volimar]

http://www.tmz.com/2016/07/08/jada-pinkett-smith-cop-killings-police-dallas/

Jada Pinkett Smith weighs in. video inside

I might, MIGHT understand that reasoning if this happened in baton rouge or Ferguson, but by most accounts, Dallas was improving the relationship between its law enforcement and black community. That community didn't seem to be desperate. Seems pretty irresponsible to make that kind of wide brush statement in this situation.

 

[ElRenoRaven]

So she's justifying the killing of 5 police officers because the black community is desperate? What a piece of shit.

Yup. I always liked Will but his wife can get fucking bent. How fucked in the head can you be to try and even remotely justify this shit.

 

[JHoNNy1OoO]

they literally already spent 4 hours trying to do it after he was continuing to fire at them and claiming to have bombs. It was either use the robot or try and take him alive and get even more officers killed

OR continue the standoff just like they were doing for several hours. Plenty of situations like this have happened in the past and gone on longer WITH hostages.

I have a problem with them deciding "fuck it" and blowing up the shooter in a stalemate. We are better than that. To me that crossed a line law enforcement shouldn't cross.

 

[jmdajr]

I might, MIGHT understand that reasoning if this happened in baton rouge or Ferguson, but by most accounts, Dallas was improving the relationship between its law enforcement and black community. That community didn't seem to be desperate. Seems pretty irresponsible to make that kind of wide brush statement in this situation.

They said they had a record low number of Police shootings. The Dallas PD was proud of that.

 

[Tagyhag]

It's all over. We are forever stuck in a violent degenerate dialogue now.

He must have had PTSD or some sort of mental illness, no way would someone sane would think an action like this would actually help black rights, let alone have the conscience to kill 5 other humans.

 

[Gattsu25]

its a very direct way to public safety, you can argue, yes.
and no one is saying they didn't do their jobs and more, but this falls into that 'more' category for me.

"we can't catch this guy, we've been here long enough, lets just blow him up" is something I'd never expect to see in law enforcement tactical options.

Yeah, better they leave that guy and allow him to shoot into the neighborhood from a high vantage point, again.

Come on. The police were not in the wrong and tried their best to take down every suspect non-violently. 3 suspects in custody alive even after officers have been killed. They were nothing but professional about all of this.

 

[tapedeck]

Wow. I'd have went off on the piece of shit if he had been one of my friends. Just beyond fucked up.

Oh I did and like 10 other people shredded him in comments, then I deleted and reported his ass.

 

[Dreams-Visions]

http://www.tmz.com/2016/07/08/jada-pinkett-smith-cop-killings-police-dallas/

Jada Pinkett Smith weighs in. video inside

Will, get your wife please.

I might, MIGHT understand that reasoning if this happened in baton rouge or Ferguson, but by most accounts, Dallas was improving the relationship between its law enforcement and black community. That community didn't seem to be desperate. Seems pretty irresponsible to make that kind of wide brush statement in this situation.

Was this guy from Dallas? I assumed he wasn't. People come from all over for these sorts of events.

 

[Jawbreaker]

Not gonna post the pictures here since I don't know if it's actually him, but here's a link.

 

[Jeff-DSA]

I feel bad for this dude. Part of the protest, exercising his rights. Shooting started and witnesses reported to police that he had something to do with it. Police put out his photo and mistakenly tweet that he's a suspect. Media continues to call him a suspect instead of a person of interest. He was failed by so many people that I'm glad he's okay. His brother was amazing though.

Thank goodness this man wasn't gunned down. That would be absolutely horrific on top of everything that already happened.

 

[Mahonay]

Jada Pinkett is the worst.

 

[Kreed]

http://www.tmz.com/2016/07/08/jada-pinkett-smith-cop-killings-police-dallas/

Jada Pinkett Smith weighs in. video inside

Guys, read the article please:

A photog got Jada at LAX Thursday, and asked about the recent police involved shootings of Alton Sterling and Philando Castile. Her reaction was poignant. It's important to note this video was shot before the Dallas news broke in L.A.

 

[doctorblurg]

OR continue the standoff just like they were doing for several hours. Plenty of situations like this have happened in the past and gone on longer WITH hostages.

I have a problem with them deciding "fuck it" and blowing up the shooter in a stalemate. We are better than that. To me that crossed a line law enforcement shouldn't cross.

Yeah they went on for longer because they had hostages that is an entirely different situation because those people are at risk of being harmed as well, I'm not condoning the use of remote explosive when innocents are at risk.

 

[CyclopsRock]

The distinction is that the weapon wasn't 'in their wheelhouse'.

Yeah, but why's that actually significant? The fact it's "new" doesn't mean anything.

 

[Volimar]

They said they had a record low number of Police shootings. They Dallas PD was proud of that.

Complaints against Dallas police dropped like 64% since 2011.

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

She said that before the news of the shooting broke. Little unfair to present it like that imo.

 

[FiggyCal]

Guys, read the article please:

Unbelievable. smdh

 

[bman94]

I'm not sure if this discussion will even take place but it should. If this person is ex-military and at that age that means alot of what he learned was over in the middle east and how things are handled there. He comes back, maybe with undiagnosed PTSD and sees things happen here and has only seen things handled in certain ways over there for how many years? It's just another issue America has with not taking care of veterans and ex-military coming back from tours of duty properly. Just dropping them back into society and saying "You'll be alright'

It's really scary that someone who was trained to protect the country can initiate domestic warfare like this at this age. He's a part of my generation, I'll only a few years younger than him and to think someone my age caused so much destruction of lives and terror.

 

[therealist]

They said they had a record low number of Police shootings. They Dallas PD was proud of that.

DPD seems to be well-run. That's the whole thing, cops aren't a single entity. Every city department is different. Just because one city's department is crooked doesn't mean that the city next to it is. Different leadership.

 

[trembli0s]

Not gonna post the pictures here since I don't know if it's actually him, but here's a link.

This is going to go over real well. Like a fucking bucket of ice water on the whole legitimate part of the movement.

 

[Meier]

I'd imagine "DID SOMEBODY CHECK OUR TWITTER FEED?!" Is the last thing they're thinking about. 5 co-workers are dead and they're still working on what they know.

Not an excuse, but let's not presume it's intentional or trying to stir anything. It's a very bad oversight, but they're clearly not the best at social media.

It's intentional. They quote tweeted it later and said he was questioned and released. At that point though, they should have taken it down. It's very dangerous because the follow-up might not be shared in conjunction with the original.

 

[Cyriades]

Suspect claimed he was a U.S Army veteran

http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/micah...uspect-name-identified-photos-facebook-video/

Pics of him in uniform.

 

[Zoe]

Was this guy from Dallas? I assumed he wasn't. People come from all over for these sorts of events.

Mesquite is in DFW.

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

http://www.tmz.com/2016/07/08/jada-pinkett-smith-cop-killings-police-dallas/

Jada Pinkett Smith weighs in. video inside

I don't want to consider veterans having tactical shoot outs with cops on American soil as an inevitability. That's a horrifying concept.

Edit: Sorry, just now read the line about this being BEFORE the shooting of the officers.

 

[TheFuzz]

NO.



That's definitely an excuse. He shouldn't have been on there in the first damn place.

You didn't say that at 10:45 last night.


That's my point, it was a guy who showed up at a protest with an AR-15 and apparently "fit" the description so the quickest way to find the guy was that. As it all was going down, it was a question worth asking. That's why it was put up to begin with.

It needs to be fixed immediately, but it wasn't left up for giggles.

 

[aeolist]

They said they had a record low number of Police shootings. They Dallas PD was proud of that.

city of dallas and dallas pd have been honestly great for a while now, but i can't blame people of color for still feeling uneasy about police given all of the bad news we keep seeing from other cities. it's a national problem.

 

[LCGeek]

Don't attach this lone piece of shit to the community. The community was protesting peacefully for change when this idiot put their lives at risk too. She can shut the hell up

I'm pretty sure she meant the word community in general. Crass and tactless but she wasn't off the mark with some of her comments or the situation being inevitable.

I don't want to consider veterans having tactical shoot outs with cops on American soil as an inevitability. That's a horrifying concept.

Edit: Sorry, just now read the line about this being BEFORE the shooting of the officers.

The exact details no one can imagine ever. To say this wasn't going to happen when we had a similar thing in NYC after eric garner just shows you really aren't being honest with yourself to say the least.

 

[many places]

http://www.tmz.com/2016/07/08/jada-pinkett-smith-cop-killings-police-dallas/

Jada Pinkett Smith weighs in. video inside

Wow....

 

[FiggyCal]

TMZ might be the worst.

 

[marrec]

Guys, read the article please:

Not only that, but she's not wrong, desperate communities do desperate things when all hope seems lost.

It has little to do with this Dallas terrorism, as this seems like a calculated and well planned act rather than a desperate outpouring of hopelessness.

 

[Silent Chief]

I see no problem with shooting, exploding or otherwise killing someone who has shot a gun at someone--cop or civilian--and is not surrendering.

The problem is killing execution style a person because someone think they might have a gun on them in a country in which anyone could have a gun.

 

[2real4tv]

http://www.tmz.com/2016/07/08/jada-pinkett-smith-cop-killings-police-dallas/

Jada Pinkett Smith weighs in. video inside

This is being taken out of context..she is being asked about police shootings.

 

[BlackClouds]

Godamn the article on yahoo news has over 14k comments and each comment is worse than the other. Wth is wrong with people??

If you want to see the worst comments, Yahoo is a great place to go. Delivers every single time.

 

[Calamari41]

It's clear who is informed in this thread and who isn't. The uninformed think Call of Duty is real life and all you needed to do to get the suspect was throw a flash bang at him.

The ironic thing about the "just activate bullet time and stun him" people is that the one person who actually was closest to the "skill level" of a Call of Duty PC was the perp himself.

I dare anybody to watch the video of him maneuvering into position to murder that officer, and then say that they would volunteer to charge into a dark parking garage where he was lying in wait.

 

[The God]

Not only that, but she's not wrong, desperate communities do desperate things when all hope seems lost.

It has little to do with this Dallas terrorism, as this seems like a calculated and well planned act rather than a desperate outpouring of hopelessness.

Exactly. Not getting what's wrong about what she said.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Any news that refers to him as Micah X. Johnson is going for the low hanging fruit by trying to evoke Malcolm X. Fuck that news scare tactic.

EDIT: I'm wrong!

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

You didn't say that at 10:45 last night.


That's my point, it was a guy who showed up at a protest with an AR-15 and apparently "fit" the description so the quickest way to find the guy was that. As it all was going down, it was a question worth asking. That's why it was put up to begin with.

It needs to be fixed immediately, but it wasn't left up for giggles.

"fit" the description as in black and legally carrying in an open carry state? I thought you weren't making excuses, and now this guy gets spread all over the media as a suspect in murdering police(STILL UP, no apologies). It's irresponsible on all levels and the media should be doing everything possible to make sure everyone knows he's not apart of any of this, and was a peaceful protester.

 

[Bubba T]

It's all over. We are forever stuck in a violent degenerate dialogue now.

Forever is a very long time. This country has been through worse and has grown from it. It's a very emotional time right now, but I don't think things will devolve to another civil war.

 

[TheFuzz]

Any news that refers to him as Micah X. Johnson is going for the low hanging fruit by trying to evoke Malcolm X. Fuck that news scare tactic.

Wasn't this already covered? It's AP style for releasing names.

 

[wesleyshark]

Wasn't this already covered? It's AP style for releasing names.

Yes.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

Wasn't this already covered? It's AP style for releasing names.

Is it? Sucks, because it evokes that thought. Dang.

 

[Gattsu25]

Wasn't this already covered? It's AP style for releasing names.

Only if that is the preferred way that the person, themselves, referred to themselves.

 

[DedValve]

Mythical people? Not really funny. But yeah, I ignore people immediately and stop listen to what they say as soon as they start to stomp and spit on a flag. Why? Because it's fucking stupid and makes you look like an asshole. So yeah, you can lose sympathy when you do stupid things while trying to prove a point.

For some people? Yeah, it was a turning point.

Systemic and govermnent assisted abuse of minorities takes a backseat when you stomp on a flag.

Thats the vibe im getting from your post.

 

[AmaterasuOni]

http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/micah...uspect-name-identified-photos-facebook-video/

Pics of him in uniform.

Well. It's a hate crime then, racism.

 

[backflip10019]

Any news that refers to him as Micah X. Johnson is going for the low hanging fruit by trying to evoke Malcolm X. Fuck that news scare tactic.

Well to be fair there's also a fairly famous professional baseball player named Micah Johnson. Including his middle initial might be a way to differentiate from him.

 

[Jawbreaker]

Well. It's a hate crime then, racism.

I mean, yeah. He stated that he wanted to kill white people — specifically white cops.

 

[dave is ok]

Heavy updated their page with said shitstorm causing picture

 

[TheFuzz]

"fit" the description as in black and legally carrying in an open carry state? I thought you weren't making excuses, and now this guy gets spread all over the media, and his picture is still up as a suspect. It's irresponsible on all levels.

Legally carrying an AR-15 at an event where a trained shooter is opening fire on people. You going to tell me as a police chief that you're not a bit inquisitive about where that guy is now?

I'm not excusing why it's still up, I'm excusing why it went up in the first place. It needs to come down, but without knowing who handles the DPD Twitter feed this morning, it's likely a very very embarrassingly bad oversight.