Shin Godzilla - Trailer 2 (New Japanese Godzilla Movie)

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I'm still iffy on this version of Godzilla. Regardless it won't matter much as we are still getting more Legendary Godzilla films, which if Shin is as bad as I fear from the spoilers, will be where the real Godzilla series continues.


Also I read that at the end
zombified human-godzilla hybrids burst from his tail as a cliffhanger.
Is this real?
 
God damn it I'm so pumped for this movie now based on what I'm hearing but I wont get to see it any time soon.

The spoilers and rumors make this take sound like a really fresh take with some strange and great ideas. The kind youd expect from this director. I've always wanted a new take emphasizing the horror of godzilla and playing up the irradiated mutated freak angle. Looks like I'm getting what I wanted.

On the other hand I hear the pacing is off and the movie drags in a lot of sections which is basically to be expected from a japanese godzilla movie.

How do I see this movie soon without taking a plane to japan haha
 
SG-17 said:
I'm still iffy on this version of Godzilla. Regardless it won't matter much as we are still getting more Legendary Godzilla films, which if Shin is as bad as I fear from the spoilers, will be where the real Godzilla series continues.
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I am already dreading the new Godzilla stuff as they already seem to be setting him up to fight King Kong and that's probably the most boring and unexciting route they could go.
 
HStallion said:
I am already dreading the new Godzilla stuff as they already seem to be setting him up to fight King Kong and that's probably the most boring and unexciting route they could go.
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The original KKvG was really fun. No reason why this one won't. Wonder if they'll pull a G3HM with it?
 
HalfBakedProphet said:
I grew up on Godzilla 1985 so I have a ton of nostagia for it but I agree with Daingurse. The original The Return of Godzilla is definitely the superior film. Come September my collection will be complete
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I really appreciated how Godzilla 1985 tied back to the American version of the original movie, but yeah - the original Return of Godzilla is the better movie. I also like the Cold War subplot that manages to sneak into the film too.

I should really do a RTTP for Return when it comes out
 
KingV said:
Wait, does Godzilla Lore have multiple Godzillas?
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Not in Shin Godzilla's lore. But in most of the other Godzilla timelines they all keep the 1954 movie as the fixed point in time and that Godzilla is considered the "first" and the Godzilla that shows up in the sequel is generally implied to be a second one, IIRC.

The only Godzilla movies that don't play off of the 1954 movie at all are (to my memory) Godzilla 1998, Godzilla 2014, and Shin Godzilla.
 
Sephzilla said:
Not in Shin Godzilla's lore. But in all of the other Godzilla timelines they all keep the 1954 movie as the fixed point in time and that Godzilla is considered the "first" and the Godzilla that shows up in the sequel is generally implied to be a second one, IIRC.
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I like Godzilla but am not like deep into it. I always figured it was somehow the same monster coming back, or a complete reboot each time. Interesting.
 
HalfBakedProphet said:
I grew up on Godzilla 1985 so I have a ton of nostagia for it but I agree with Daingurse. The original The Return of Godzilla is definitely the superior film. Come September my collection will be complete
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I've never seen the original version, so I'm super stoked to see it. 85 has been my favorite English-dubbed Godzilla film, so I'm expecting this to be my absolute favorite.
 
UnemployedVillain said:
So this is where Anno's attention has been when he was assumed to be working on Rebuild 4. At least this seems to have turned out well
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No? It was never "assumed". When he announced he was directing Shin Godzilla, he specifically said he was doing it because he needed a break from Eva and was kinda stuck after 3.0. He apologized again for delaying the Eva movies at the press conference announcing the completion of the film.
 
KingV said:
I like Godzilla but am not like deep into it. I always figured it was somehow the same monster coming back, or a complete reboot each time. Interesting.
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I'll try to give a quick breakdown since there are a couple of continuities at this point (and the 2000s era movies are a fucking mess in terms of continuity).

Showa Era movies: Godzilla 1954 is the original and is dead. The Godzilla that appears in Godzilla Raids Again through Terror of MechaGodzilla is a second Godzilla.

Heisei Era movies: Godzilla 1954 is the original and is dead. The Godzilla that appears in Return of Godzilla through Godzilla vs Destroyah is implied to be a second Godzilla. There's also some time travel fuckery in this timeline that further establishes this Godzilla as a second one. The American version of Return of Godzilla [Godzilla 1985] has Raymond Burr's character imply it's the same one however, but I'd say that's not canon.

Godzilla 1998 [US] / Godzilla: The Series: Unrelated to 1954 Godzilla

Millennium Era movies: Continuity here is a fucking mess because every other movie is a reboot. Most of them imply that this Godzilla is different from the 1954 one. Godzilla: Final Wars is a tad shady about it's Godzilla though, but if you consider that the original script had this Godzilla as Godzilla Jr from the Heisei era then that makes him a third Godzilla.

Godzilla 2014 [US]: Unrelated to 1954 Godzilla

Shin Godzilla: Unrelated to 1954 Godzilla
 
Its been ages since I watched the 1985 version, though I did watch the subbed Return of Godzilla a couple years ago for the first time. I really wanted to like it but what held it back (and the next two Heisei movies for that matter) for me was the abundance of terrible English dialogue from people who are either not native speakers or actors in the slightest. It was incredibly distracting, especially in Biollante.

Maybe I'd have been better off just watching the English dubs of them...though I'm confused how Return has an English dub included on the blu? Wouldn't that be the 1985 dub they don't own?
 
Blader said:
Its been ages since I watched the 1985 version, though I did watch the subbed Return of Godzilla a couple years ago for the first time. I really wanted to like it but what held it back (and the next two Heisei movies for that matter) for me was the abundance of terrible English dialogue from people who are either not native speakers or actors in the slightest. It was incredibly distracting, especially in Biollante.

Maybe I'd have been better off just watching the English dubs of them...though I'm confused how Return has an English dub included on the blu? Wouldn't that be the 1985 dub they don't own?
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There was a separate English dub used for international sales of the movie.

Oh, and since you mentioned Biollante - man, that movie does not hold up upon revisits.
 
Sephzilla said:
Yeah I'd say that's pretty spot on. Although I'd say Against MechaGodzilla and Tokyo SOS are more or less sequels to Godzilla 2000
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Technically, they're not connected to Godzilla 2000, but they might as well be, since nothing happens in either movie that contradicts that theory.
 
Man all this bluray talk makes me wish I could finish out my Godzilla bluray collection. There's still a handful of Showa Era movies that haven't made it to bluray yet.

JdFoX187 said:
Technically, they're not connected to Godzilla 2000, but they might as well be, since nothing happens in either movie that contradicts that theory.
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Exactly, plus the later two movies use pretty much the exact same Godzilla as 2000 visually
 
Blablurn said:
Have you guys heard about dem spoilers? Holy Shit.

Via Reddit:

-No replication

-tadpole is real

-Three forms

-"Turkey form" with nubs for arms and big eye and gaping mouth

-"dino form"

-Final form we see in the trailers

-More or less same screentime as 2014

-He gets frozen by cadmium missiles

-Beams out back and tail

http://imgur.com/a/xb6yF

Oh my god his lower jaw splits like predator. Hideaki Anno. http://biorante.tumblr.com/image/148115098520
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ok now thats fucking COOL

IM FUCKING HYPED

HOLY FUCK

HOLY FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
 
duckroll said:
No? It was never "assumed". When he announced he was directing Shin Godzilla, he specifically said he was doing it because he needed a break from Eva and was kinda stuck after 3.0. He apologized again for delaying the Eva movies at the press conference announcing the completion of the film.
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Guys were can I watch Eva? Is it streamable or something I have to buy from Best Buy?
 
NyMartin90 said:
US screening in NYC?
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(Presumably limited) US release announced about a week ago
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MoonsaultSlayer said:
Not excited by the potential spoilers but I still want to see it.

And can they get their shit together and release 85 already? FFS!
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They are, Blu-Ray September this year. It's Return of Godzilla (the original Japanese 85 version) not Godzilla 1985 (with Raymond Burr- licensing issues) though.
 
KingV said:
Wait, does Godzilla Lore have multiple Godzillas?
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Three, sometimes. Godzilla continuity is not so...continuous.

In 54-75 there were primarily two godzillas. The one in 54 dies but then another one shows up very soon after. It also has a single child that never reached maturity in the series. This is really the only series in which you see more than one godzilla actually active in different movies (54 vs the rest).

84-95 again the original godzilla in 54 was dead, but the second did not show up until 30 years later. The movies follow this second Godzilla. When the second Godzilla died, it was replaced by a third (which only made a brief appearance in the final scene of the series).

2000: Reboot. If I remember correctly, this one assumes that Godzilla survived the oxygen destroyer and took a long time to heal. So only one Godzilla.

2000 (Megaguirus): I think this one reboots again and takes a similar stance to 2000.

2001 (GMK): Reboot again. In this one I believe it's the same Godzilla having regenerated after the 1954 attack and powered by the souls of the dead or some really metal shit like that.

2002-2003: This series follows a second godzilla again, assuming the first died in 1954.

2004: This reboot splices Godzilla's dna with Goku and I dont even remember what the hell was going on in this movie.

Sephzilla said:
Man all this bluray talk makes me wish I could finish out my Godzilla bluray collection. There's still a handful of Showa Era movies that haven't made it to bluray yet.
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I've been waiting not so patiently for a long time for Terror of Mechagodzilla on bluray. #1 on my list of Godzilla movies that have not yet made it to bluray (at least not in the USA).

Give me a two pack with that and the movie that preceded it and I would be really happy.
 
HalfBakedProphet said:
Well, the fact bangladesh is super hyped probably means I'm going to hate this lol
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haha!

i love that its taking inspiration directly from nature and treating godzilla as a colossal amphibian from hell, its a monster movie but this aspect just helps me to believe in it more

i dont feel like theyre trying to glorify godzilla as if it needs to be recognized as some legendary beast that should be celebrated, which is a great thing.. i love that theyre selling him as a parasite, that's what a monster movie should be!
 
One thing that I really didn't like in the 2014 movie was that people were cheering for Godzilla at the end. It made no sense in the context of the movie. They even had to be really on the nose about it and show "king of the monsters: saviour of our city?" on the TV screen.
As far as the people were concerned Godzilla still could have been considered a threat at that point but whatever. Somehow they knew that Godzilla was the good monster. It was lame.
 
that shit was disney's godzilla

same thing happened at the end of disney's jurassic world

after they saved the humans, the t-rex and raptor looked at each other like theyre two heroes that have met for the first time before going their separate ways
 
plasmawave said:
One thing that I really didn't like in the 2014 movie was that people were cheering for Godzilla at the end. It made no sense in the context of the movie. They even had to be really on the nose about it and show "king of the monsters: saviour of our city?" on the TV screen.
As far as the people were concerned Godzilla still could have been considered a threat at that point but whatever. Somehow they knew that Godzilla was the good monster. It was lame.
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Godzilla 2014 was basically a non campy 70s Godzilla movie.
 
Guys, we live in a world where we are getting a second Godzilla movie, Toho is doing Godzilla movies again, a new King Kong movie and a Godzilla vs King Kong movie.

We are probably going to see American versions of Rodan and King Ghidorah in our Amerocan #kaijuverse
Pacific Rim 2 is happening.


This is the reality we live in, and I love it.

I mean shit I was not even a year old and my mom plopped me in the crib in front of the tv to watch Godzilla movies. She said I use to just stare at it, the addiction started in 79.
 
KingV said:
Wait, does Godzilla Lore have multiple Godzillas?
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Almost every Toho Godzilla film (sans 54') is a sequel, but hardly any of them are sequels to each other. Many entries acknowledge the events of the 54 Godzilla, but none of the other films (even though commonly appearing kaiju are recognized by the human characters).

Its also not uncommon for actors to return to the Godzilla series and play entirely different roles, even in films that are chronologically adjacent. Which is very strange to see when you watch these films in order.

So if you're looking for any sort of narrative throughline for the dozens of Godzilla films there now are, well, sorry. Some films have supernatural elements, some are sci-fi only, some are both. Just go with the whole 'Giant monsters exist and everybody knows Godzilla' jist of it and you'll be fine.
 
Heroman said:
Godzilla 2014 was basically a non campy 70s Godzilla movie.
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Wish they just would have advertised it as such lol. The trailers for the 2014 Godzilla left me with blue balls. I thought I was getting a film in the vein of the 1954 original or 1984 entry. Godzilla as a pure force of nature and destruction, totally unstoppable and relentless. Not Godzilla guardian of fucking earth. I was not mentally prepared, and ended up a bit cool on G2014.

But man, I think Anno is giving me what I want. Haven't looked at too many spoilers, but this film looks like it's going to give me my favorite kind of Godzilla. I want an overwhelming monstrosity, that strips man of all hope.
 
SG-17 said:
I'm still iffy on this version of Godzilla. Regardless it won't matter much as we are still getting more Legendary Godzilla films, which if Shin is as bad as I fear from the spoilers, will be where the real Godzilla series continues.


Also I read that at the end
zombified human-godzilla hybrids burst from his tail as a cliffhanger.
Is this real?
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They don't burst from his tail but it zooms in close and in the frozen Godzilla are what appear to be zombified human-looking beings. Then the credits roll. It was a total Evangelion ending lol.

But what I took from that is it was implying some sort of fucked up secret to Godzilla's origin beyond just some sea creature eating nuclear waste.
 
Fury451 said:
They are, Blu-Ray September this year. It's Return of Godzilla (the original Japanese 85 version) not Godzilla 1985 (with Raymond Burr- licensing issues) though.
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Will keep an eye out. That licensing issue is the bane of my existence. Guess I'll have to deal with a bootleg copy forever staining my Godzilla collection.
 
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