It doesn't have Wide Color Gamut too.
If you are on a budget look at these two HDR displays;
Sony XBR43X800D
Samsung UN40KU7000
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It doesn't have Wide Color Gamut too.
If you are on a budget look at these two HDR displays;
Sony XBR43X800D
Samsung UN40KU7000
For those wondering there are open box of this Samsung model making the price only $540 for a 40 inch model on the Best Buy website. Offers big color gamut improvement over the model below the 6300 with maybe 2ms more lag at 22
Could anyone help me pick out a tv?
I don't care about 4K (computer can't do it) or smart features.
Really it's just for my steam link and occasional movie watching.
Edit:
Something around 30-40inches and no more than 500$
I've been using a monitor, laptop or old tv since forever so this is all over my head.
I don't care about 4K (computer can't do it) or smart features.
Really it's just for my steam link and occasional movie watching.
Edit:
Something around 30-40inches and no more than 500$
I've been using a monitor, laptop or old tv since forever so this is all over my head.
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind as gaming is the main draw for a new 4K/HDR TV.
Hey Cyriades thank you for the KU7000 recommendation.
Sucks it's an 8bit panel, but I wanted a good range of HDR which they updated and it has a good color gamut along with low input lag. I'd say overall Im going to be very happy with it as a starter 4K TV and maybe 2-3 years from now I'll actually look into the big boys lol.
Really excited to see what the big deal is about mad max in 4K and HDR is all about. Don't have a UHD player but I think 4K vudu will suffice for now from my nvidia shield tv.
Not like the Pro is going to have Dolby vision support anyways. No point in shelling out the money for a feature I can't use
I don't have $1,000+ for a top of the line HDR display either. Those two are the best for wide color gamut + HDR under $700... and can be found for around $500!
Cheaper sets say HDR(HDR Processing) but no wide color gamut.. which is false. It may read the signal but will not display it correctly.
Love ya man!
Yes I saw insignia and those LG sets with the WRGB knock off. They really slap everything with HDR holy crap. Like some of them say HDR and then don't even do anything with the peak or sustained brightness. I don't know how they can label it on the box as such. Almost seems false advertising.
Well at least the two you listed give us Pro cheap plebs some hope lol
I did get the KU7000 ordered and yes, it was $530 for open box certified from Best Buy with free shipping. So I'm excited to play with my new set in a few weeks. I can't do UHDs but Vudu is second best when it comes to quality and I think requires a 25mbps for their 4K content. So quality should still look far above anything I've ever seen. Also can't wait to watch all the uploaded videos Sony put up for the pro. Kind of glad I have an nvidia shield tv that supports 4K and HDR content
MasterMenace
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I have no need for a TV. Is there anything like a 4K HDR Monitor around the 23"-28" size? I use my monitor to stream content and I'll be getting the PS4 PRO, so a TV is pointless for me.
finalflame
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No such thing.
Yay. Absolutely gorgeous TV.
Personally I'm waiting to see what 2017 OLEDs offer but that may be 12 months before they come down to that price for you...
I bought the 930D after comparing it and the KS9000 and have been pleased with my decision. The Samsung is sharper, but I prefer the motion and the colors on the Sony. My problem with Samsung is that the greens look neon and it gets too bothersome to me. I believe the Samsung has better response times for gaming though.
4K jump is not exactly cheap, especially with a 4K jump into the living room. $320 for a second, used 980TI and a SLI bridge, $120 for the Corsair Lapdog, $130 for the matching K70 keyboard for the Lapdog and of course, $1800 for the KS8000.
Everything is on the way except for the TV. Tried to make the 4K jump since June, 2 damaged monitors and 1 damaged TV later, I'm still trying and it's September already.
Waiting for refund for the broken one so I can order a KS8000 again, I expect Murphy's law to kick in now, I bet the refund process will stretch for weeks just to spite me or I'll get a 4th consecutive broken display...
KS8000 is ~5ms slower than my 1440p monitor, shouldn't be a bad transition. I remember when I was a kid trying to get the quickest possible "double click" on a stopwatch, 5ms increase should be fine.
Everything is on the way except for the TV. Tried to make the 4K jump since June, 2 damaged monitors and 1 damaged TV later, I'm still trying and it's September already.
Waiting for refund for the broken one so I can order a KS8000 again, I expect Murphy's law to kick in now, I bet the refund process will stretch for weeks just to spite me or I'll get a 4th consecutive broken display...
KS8000 is ~5ms slower than my 1440p monitor, shouldn't be a bad transition. I remember when I was a kid trying to get the quickest possible "double click" on a stopwatch, 5ms increase should be fine.
I think I did get my KU7000 cheaper than the Sony comparable though. Just a matter of searching for it......I think the x800d is now more expensive by $40.
So it comes down due to preferences mostly.
Dee Dah Dave
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Has anyone done much optical passthrough-ing on the Sammy KS7000/8000?
I know Dolby 5.1 works with media from a connected USB drive, but what about HDMI like a console.
Most TV's strip the audio down to Stereo but I think this TV supports passthrough fully. Just not sure about HDMI?
I know Dolby 5.1 works with media from a connected USB drive, but what about HDMI like a console.
Most TV's strip the audio down to Stereo but I think this TV supports passthrough fully. Just not sure about HDMI?
It supports ARC so I'm sure you can get 5.1 audio from HDMI.
What size? How was it shipped, just the box or was it on a pallet?
I'm terrified to be honest. I tried buying a large 4K monitor twice, both screens cracked, it's been a nightmare returning it, UPS drove me nuts. I thought that was unlucky enough and I should be good now but the 65" KS8000 also got busted. Waiting to be refunded for that one before I try again. I was tempted to just pay the extra $150 in sales tax for the piece of mind of buying locally. I'll try online one more time.
finalflame
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Picked up a KS8000 yesterday. Whole right side is dimmed compared to the rest of the panel. Replacing today, hope you guys have better luck. Edit: turns out it was dented in shipping.
Sorry to hear that. Who shipped it? I was happy Dell (where I bought my KS8000 from) shipped it with a proper freight service with door-to-door service. I'd be terrified of having UPS or FedEx handle a TV/screen.
praying my U2145s I bought last week arrive ok :/
I have only played on PC monitors for the past years so I never had to deal with all these interpolation stuff and false advertising refresh rates.
So basically during my "research" in regards to what to pay attention to when purchasing a TV set these days, I caught wind that native 50hz displays (I'm based in Germany) stutter?
But they can display *p60 content?
Does this stutter only occur when playing back content from a *p24 source due to lack of proper frame doubling?
Why do native 100hz panels apparently get rid of whatever stutter people talk about?
I just can't wrap my head around all these different Hz and input framerate specs considering the WYSIWYG state of PC monitor refresh rates haha.
So basically during my "research" in regards to what to pay attention to when purchasing a TV set these days, I caught wind that native 50hz displays (I'm based in Germany) stutter?
But they can display *p60 content?
Does this stutter only occur when playing back content from a *p24 source due to lack of proper frame doubling?
Why do native 100hz panels apparently get rid of whatever stutter people talk about?
I just can't wrap my head around all these different Hz and input framerate specs considering the WYSIWYG state of PC monitor refresh rates haha.
Question: I have a LG 9100 OLED TV which is 1080p and does not support HDR. It does however support a wide color gamut, which from what I understand is separate from HDR. The PS4 will receive a HDR update soon, which will lead to a higher color gamut as well I guess? Will my TV be able to display this higher color gamut?
If this is not possible, can anyone explain why there is an option for standard and wide color gamut on this TV? The colors are great as-is, but an improvement is always welcome...
If this is not possible, can anyone explain why there is an option for standard and wide color gamut on this TV? The colors are great as-is, but an improvement is always welcome...
Dee Dah Dave
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If it's the US versions -
Dual Tuner, better build quality, slightly better local dimming, different stand.
If it's the euro versions -
Same TV but the 9000 is curved.
George Claw M.D.
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So I finally got to setup my 65" KS800D(Costco's version of the KS8000). I wasn't expecting it to rival the picture quality of the LG C6 that I really wanted, but it's decent enough to hold me over until the 2017 OLEDs come around.
But damn, the off-angle washout is horrendous. It didn't seem so bad in stores, but I guess the retail torch mode did a good job of masking the issue. Set at more appropriate levels in my home, it's really noticeable even just a little off to the side. My wife, who is clueless on display tech but has been used to watching on our plasma the past 6-7 years noticed it immediately. She asked what was wrong with the TV when she first viewed it from an off-angle.
Gonna be a long wait for the new OLEDs.
Edit: Heh. Going through the menus, and was surprised to see an antivirus option. Is that really a thing now? I miss dedicated dumb monitors without speakers and smart app doodads.
But damn, the off-angle washout is horrendous. It didn't seem so bad in stores, but I guess the retail torch mode did a good job of masking the issue. Set at more appropriate levels in my home, it's really noticeable even just a little off to the side. My wife, who is clueless on display tech but has been used to watching on our plasma the past 6-7 years noticed it immediately. She asked what was wrong with the TV when she first viewed it from an off-angle.
Gonna be a long wait for the new OLEDs.
Edit: Heh. Going through the menus, and was surprised to see an antivirus option. Is that really a thing now? I miss dedicated dumb monitors without speakers and smart app doodads.
I have a question,
So I've had my 2008 Samsung LN52A650 1080p 52" LCD since... well 2008. I really like the picture it produces for the most part and it's hard for me to just replace it but the one thing that I hate is that it's hard to watch shows with dark content during the day time. My living room has a lot of windows and light and the TV makes it really hard to watch dark shows. Any scenes set in a dark night are extremely difficult to tell what's going on. (Daredevil? Hah, never before 7PM)
My question is would LG OLEDs improve this at all or do I just need to buy some blackout curtains and deal?
So I've had my 2008 Samsung LN52A650 1080p 52" LCD since... well 2008. I really like the picture it produces for the most part and it's hard for me to just replace it but the one thing that I hate is that it's hard to watch shows with dark content during the day time. My living room has a lot of windows and light and the TV makes it really hard to watch dark shows. Any scenes set in a dark night are extremely difficult to tell what's going on. (Daredevil? Hah, never before 7PM)
My question is would LG OLEDs improve this at all or do I just need to buy some blackout curtains and deal?
My E6 has an amazing anti-reflective filter on it that makes daytime viewing a joy. I have ZERO problems watching any kind of content be it dark or bright during the day in a room where the sun is shining through.
It's a huge leap from my old plasma which was not watchable if the sun was out. I had to wait until evening to do anything on it which was very frustrating. Before buying the E6 I was afraid the glossy panel would mean it would be a glare magnet but to my pleasant surprise, that isn't the case at all.
And of course, OLED TVs shine with dark content as long as you're not crushing blacks etc.
Yappadappadu
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Agree that a bright environment is for sure no problem for the picture quality and blacks stay black, though I DO have problems with the reflectiveness of the E6. Still too glossy for my taste.
Maybe my room isn't as bright as yours, but I can't remember the last time I noticed any reflections getting in the way of my viewing. Probably my favourite thing about upgrading to this TV tbh.
I do use the ISF Bright preset which I think has OLED Light at 100, if that matters.
OG_Original Gamer
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https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/dolby-vision-hdr10-what-format-war-giles-baker
Article for those curious about the so-called HDR format war.
Article for those curious about the so-called HDR format war.
Goddamnit. I was gonna buy one of those soon.
Shitty LCD tech. I'm rocking a PN63C8000 which is a 2010 Samsung Plasma. I love this friggin TV, but I really want to move up to 4K and HDR.
You just can't beat plasmas for off angle viewing and the lack of motion blur.
I actually own a Leo Bodnar device and measured the input lag at 42ms in Game mode and an astonishingly bad 115ms with Game Mode off.
I wish all TVs had a "dumb" mode.
That said, I'm rather impressed with the apps on the LG OLED displays. The Wii-mote like pointer system feels great and the OS is very responsive. I always use it for Netflix, Amazon Video, etc. Photo viewing is great there too and you can load up HDR media on a USB stick. All good stuff.
Go to top of page to right, click Subscribe.
Going from a "dumb" TV to the LG OLED changed my life. No longer do I need to turn on my PS4 to use Netflix, it's right there among other apps at my fingertips, including DNLA apps like Plex. I couldn't go back to a "dumb" TV.
LG showed HLG on current 2016 models, perhaps anyone is interested:
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/lg-hfr-201609054359.htm
http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/lg-hfr-201609054359.htm
What I want to see is the back of that TV, the connector and the input panel specifically.
I'm guessing it's DP 1.4 since it's HDR10 certified.
Art Vandilay
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Does this mean 2016 models could benefit from HFR too?
Considering an upgrade for our Samsung plasma downstairs and looking at the Samsung KS9000 75" or LG E6 65". The price difference currently is roughly $500 between the 2 with the Samsung model costing more for the +10". My wife prefers the larger screen, but I keep hearing and ready about how great the LG OLED screens are. How do these 2 models stack up and is it worth getting the smaller screen/better screen.
Forgot to mention our current TV is a 60", so 60" to 65" isn't going to be as noticeable as a 60" - 75" jump.
Forgot to mention our current TV is a 60", so 60" to 65" isn't going to be as noticeable as a 60" - 75" jump.
Definately. No problem from a technical standpoint, they just need to really include it in a future (official) firmware update (which I hope they will do!).
The problem with 75 might be that flaws (that are there due the the tech) are more visible. This is of course a problem for all large screens but I am pretty sure you need a good chunk of luck to not get a unit with banding. I would test them at home (which might be a drag) or at least take a good amount of time in the electronic store. Despite that both units are excellent.
You will shorten the life span of your OLED TV running it at 100 OLED light, I find 60 to be about perfect but that might be hard for you to tolerate if you are used to 100.
Does anyone have any config / setting guides for the B6V/C6V?? I absolutely love mine but worry I've not got it set up in the "ideal" way.
Also how do I know when something is rendering with HDR? Is it something I need to enable on the tv? Getting a One S next week with Forza so want to make sure I'm all set up and ready to go.
Also how do I know when something is rendering with HDR? Is it something I need to enable on the tv? Getting a One S next week with Forza so want to make sure I'm all set up and ready to go.
You will get a popup when the material you are watching is running in HDR. For the one S you need to activate deep color once in the settings for the HDMI port (go to general settings, scroll down to ultra hd deep colour).
Rtings have updated with a bunch of input lag tests for 4K native, with and without HDR: http://www.rtings.com/tv/tests/inputs/input-lag
Weird thing is the B6 is apparently hitting 38.2 ms input lag at 4K native with HDR, while the E6 is at 67.5 ms. So not sure how accurate these figures are, doesn't make sense to me.
Weird thing is the B6 is apparently hitting 38.2 ms input lag at 4K native with HDR, while the E6 is at 67.5 ms. So not sure how accurate these figures are, doesn't make sense to me.
Okay great, I've already activated that on the port my fat Xb1 is using so should be ready to go.