Behold Nintendo Switch (March 2017, Hybrid w/ Dock, Detachable Controllers, Nvidia)

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runnin_blue said:
Projector? Lol.
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If Nintendo made a console with a prijector inside it ala their patent registered earlier in the past month, that would personally be incredibly exciting for me. Don't see it happening with the Switch, but it's obviously something Nintendo is thinking about.
 
I just hope everything pans out fine. I the NS is very sleek and I think it's only true gimmick is the detachable controller allowing people to play together and since that isn't something forced people will be fine. As far as power, resolution... I don't care, if I can play on a portable with Wii U graphics and fidelity I call that a win. The portability is a great trade-off.
 
jeffram said:
The more I think about this system, the more I'm baffled by it's approach.

Nintendo is calling this their next Home Console, but they've done everything to untether it from the home, and reduce it's appeal as a home console compared to competitor. It looks like it won't ship with hardware to connect it to the TV, and it's severely underpowered compared to the competition.

It's gimmick is it's portability, but look at that thing, it's not portable. That's not a system you can easily carry around with you. Portables skew young, but this is going to be an expensive piece of kit compared to other portable devices.

As a home console: It's underpowered, requires accessories to play on the TV, and requires accessories to game on comfortably

As a portable: It's big and expensive and might have poor battery life compared to other portables

Maybe there's a synergy there that makes this all work together in an appealing way, but I'm hard pressed to see why that would be the case.
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Why do people keep assuming this? There is absolutely no way this ships without the dock because of the branding. The minute this is base-handheld-only the marketing ceases to make any sort of sense. If they were going to have the 'switch' be optional, the device would be called something else. Baffles me that I've seen more than one person suggest that (unless I'm just seeing one person post multiple times).

Also smh at dismissing the default controller before even using it.
 
I'm totally down for leaving the controller grip as optional, personally. I think playing with just the Joy-Cons will be fine in TV mode. Plus I think the grip looks ugly and not particularly comfy to hold. Obviously I'd need to try it myself to be sure.

The branding seems to imply the the grip and dock are non-optional components and I doubt the grip is costly to include so in the end it's likely not a big deal.
 
Kyuur said:
Why do people keep assuming this? There is absolutely no way this ships without the dock because of the branding. The minute this is base-handheld-only the marketing ceases to make any sort of sense. If they were going to have the 'switch' be optional, the device would be called something else. Baffles me that I've seen more than one person suggest that (unless I'm just seeing one person post multiple times).

Also smh at dismissing the default controller before even using it.
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This. So much this.
 
klier said:
Guys, it is perfectly clear that the dock adds power. Just look at how BOTW looked on the go vs on the TV. It was very clear.
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The game footage was added during editing of the video, as is the case with every single trailer/commercial showing game footage on a screen.

There is no way to know what hardware anything was running on, and comparing the docked Zelda footage to the handheld Zelda footage, when all of that footage was added in editing, means literally nothing.
 
Patrick Bateman said:
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Just saw this over at r/gaming. Do you think this'll happen?
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I hope it will. Not for any of the things pictured, but because I want new sides that have an actual dpad and symmetrical sticks.
 
I originally wrote this for the "The Nintendo Switch is not too late, but is it a bit early?" thread, but that just got closed so I guess it can go here instead:

I mean, if we are combining the handheld and home console library then it will certainly be more popular than the Wii U. However, by the end of it's lifecycle I still expect overall console sales to be down compared to the previous generation as I just don't think they will bring in that many new fans.

By only having one platform it eliminates the need for the "hardcore" to buy multiple systems. It's probably a safe bet that most of the 13 million or so Wii U owners out there also bought a 3DS (if they're like me they probably bought a few different models). I don't think that the Switch is going to sell 72 million units (the combined sales of the 3DS and Wii U).

However, hardware sales aren't the be-all and end-all (Microsoft seems to care more about Xbox Live subscriptions these days, for instance). If Nintendo can continue to diversify its revenue streams through Amiibo sales, mobile games, movie licensing etc. they can still be a successful company.

If that means that they can continue to make games (and provide a platform that smaller Japanese developers can make games on) then I'm more than happy. I don't care if they "win the war" or anything like that.
 
Skittzo0413 said:
The game footage was added during editing of the video, as is the case with every single trailer/commercial showing game footage on a screen.

There is no way to know what hardware anything was running on, and comparing the docked Zelda footage to the handheld Zelda footage, when all of that footage was added in editing, means literally nothing.
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Still weird to me. Why would the choose that particular footage with low frame rate?
 
There's nothing to suggest yet that there isn't haptic feedback in the sticks.

If they've got a few surprises they're saving for later, I can see that being one.
 
RemyL said:
Does anyone know if the Switch will have more power when it's on the dock?
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It's all but established that yes, yes it does. However, the why isn't clear. At a minimum, it very likely downclocks to conserve power when not on the dock, so that's one reason. Another possibility is that the dock provides cooling to allow the clock speeds to boost even further. Less likely but not completely ruled out is that the dock may contain computing hardware of its own that supplements the tablet device.
 
My wife is pretty casual, she watched it and was fairly unimpressed but she loves Mario kart. It's a novel idea for sure, I think gamers will love it, Nintendo fans will love it, not sure mainstream will love it.

This is IMO a very similar experience to what people are already doing with IPhones and Tablets. Yes I know the majority of mobile games have much less depth but that's ok for a lot of people, and that's slowly changing all the time as well. You can play chess or cards on a portable device, which has tons of depth.

I think VR is less anti-social than we initially thought, it's just too cumbersome and fugly to be a worldwide phenomenon, but that would be my prediction for the next mainstream hit, the first clear, clean, easy, pick up and play VR experience, that of course is not just for games. But music, movies, concerts, live sports etc...

I think Nintendo has a product here that will be successful for Nintendo faithful and game enthusiast like the ones that love their Vita and 3DS, PC gamers, gaming site browsers, etc...

I didn't really want a Wii day one when I saw it on stage, but I immediately knew my family would love that. Switch feels like I guess the PS4 reveal, what Nintendo fans really want, a focus on games again no gimmicks. I'm just not sure that audience is as big for Nintendo anymore.
 
ThatsMytrunks said:
I posted this on Twitter but had this thought and wanted to share.

What about four-button fighting games? How perfect is that? Load up Capcom vs SNK 2: Switched Up and detach the controllers for a quick versus match with your friends.
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That seems like it'd be fun for about 2 minutes before the novelty wears off and you realize you are shoulder to shoulder with another human hunched over a tiny screen and using a tic tac boxed sized controller.

That local MP aspect of the Switch is easily the least appealing in my opinion, and it's a shame because the compromised a good d-pad for it. Hopefully we get a real dpad replacement joy con attachment.
 
I hope Nintendo has success with this because they need to stick around for many years to come and keep throwing these weird curveballs at the industry, but it's yet another Nintendo system that's just not for me, especially since I have zero interest in portable gaming.
 
Patrick Bateman said:
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Just saw this over at r/gaming. Do you think this'll happen?
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This is pretty cool. Great "limited edition" incentive and way to encourage buy new vs used. Seems costly though. I could see vanity varieties for some games (first and third party) but more complex inputs and designs (like the gun or fishing reel) would probably be best to come right from Nintendo and marketed for use across several games vs individual ones. Like Wii peripherals.

Of course, an IP like Yokai Watch may be big enough to warrant its own unique peripheral. Given Pokémon is the other specific IP used here I'm guessing the creator is already thinking along the same lines.
 
There are lots of threads and yet little info. Do we know if this thing can take a sim card for 3g/4g+ or maybe even act as a phone when just in tablet mode?
 
Steve Youngblood said:
We do not.
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Thanks. I think it might happen, it looks like it could easilly have some sort of communication systems built in and we could see reasnoable online multiplayer on the go. Also March I'm in the market for a phone so was hoping to kill two birds.

I wonder if the device can be used in portrait. They could still do 3ds compatibility with something like that, but I also think it would be ugly.
 
Steve Youngblood said:
It's all but established that yes, yes it does. However, the why isn't clear. At a minimum, it very likely downclocks to conserve power when not on the dock, so that's one reason. Another possibility is that the dock provides cooling to allow the clock speeds to boost even further. Less likely but not completely ruled out is that the dock may contain computing hardware of its own that supplements the tablet device.
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Thanks!
 
ThatsMytrunks said:
I posted this on Twitter but had this thought and wanted to share.

What about four-button fighting games? How perfect is that? Load up Capcom vs SNK 2: Switched Up and detach the controllers for a quick versus match with your friends.
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those controllers look horrific for fighting games to be honest, just saying as a fighting game enthusiast. That small screen also isn't doing it much favors.
 
SarusGray said:
those controllers look horrific for fighting games to be honest, just saying as a fighting game enthusiast. That small screen also isn't doing it much favors.
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Agreed. Not juat because of the size of the controller, but simply the fact it forces you to use the analog stick is horrible.

Divekick would be awesome though. I still occasionally do 2 people 1 Vita Divekick matches. Would work great for the Switch.
 
SarusGray said:
those controllers look horrific for fighting games to be honest, just saying as a fighting game enthusiast. That small screen also isn't doing it much favors.
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I honestly wouldn't read too much into playing games like that... I think the proof of concept video leaned a bit too heavily on this feature but I doubt most of us will ever use it. Using both controllers at once and/or the pro controller is how most of use will use this system 99.9% of the time.
 
SarusGray said:
those controllers look horrific for fighting games to be honest, just saying as a fighting game enthusiast. That small screen also isn't doing it much favors.
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They look horrific for almost everything to be honest, easily to weakest aspect of the new system

Maybe they'd be good for mobile ports, stuff like Downwell or infinite runners, but I can't see anyone playing an entire co-op campaign with a friend both using those
 
SarusGray said:
those controllers look horrific for fighting games to be honest, just saying as a fighting game enthusiast. That small screen also isn't doing it much favors.
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Then put your Switch in it's dock, and use two pro controllers. That's what's cool about this system, you can play things however you like. As a casual fighting game fan, the idea of killing time at the airport by doing quick matches with my fiancé on our joy-cons is quite enticing.
 
jts said:
Makes me wonder, would people accept if it was possible to run a cord between the console and and its dock, to enable touchscreen gaming / Wii U BC?

Probably not.
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Nah.

runnin_blue said:
Since the game would be running directly off of the internal guts of the Switch (not the dock), there should be zero input lag. It's not streaming.

EDIT: did FIFA come out on Wii U or are you taking the piss?
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It did but it was rubbish really.
 
KAL2006 said:
Nintendo need to have a 2nd trailer.

Switch needs gimmicks for mass market
I'm talking
Touchscreen
Motion
Camera
And Mic
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Don't forget the social media share button/option. One click, choose one of many services to share to, done.
 
Spooneh said:
Thanks. I think it might happen, it looks like it could easilly have some sort of communication systems built in and we could see reasnoable online multiplayer on the go. Also March I'm in the market for a phone so was hoping to kill two birds.

I wonder if the device can be used in portrait. They could still do 3ds compatibility with something like that, but I also think it would be ugly.
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I wouldn't hold your breath. Battery life would be next to zero with a cell radio. It's apparently already barely 3 hours now, you try and maintain a cellular connection and that thing will barely get an hour of use.
 
Inferno313 said:
Then put your Switch in it's dock, and use two pro controllers. That's what's cool about this system, you can play things however you like. As a casual fighting game fan, the idea of killing time at the airport by doing quick matches with my fiancé on our joy-cons is quite enticing.
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It's nice to have an option, but the point is that this feature isn't all that great with controllers like that. But yeah obviously that's not the primary way you'd play.

But you know what will be good? Playing multiplayer on the screen with one player on two joycons and the other on the pro controller. Grest controls for both players right there. And I do see myself carrying both the main Switch and a pro controller in my bag around with me so it's a very viable scenario. God I hope Tekken 7 gets released on this.
 
Ninja Scooter said:
That seems like it'd be fun for about 2 minutes before the novelty wears off and you realize you are shoulder to shoulder with another human hunched over a tiny screen and using a tic tac boxed sized controller.

That local MP aspect of the Switch is easily the least appealing in my opinion, and it's a shame because the compromised a good d-pad for it. Hopefully we get a real dpad replacement joy con attachment.
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I guess you've never played Mario Party, Bomberman games or Super Monkey Ball (and its minigames) with friends? Because that would be perfect on this thing, without the need for a TV.
 
The joy cons definitely seem bad for certain kinds of games.

However, the interesting thing about them is since they're detachable, this will basically be the first portable system which can use third-party controllers. Someone will almost certainly make joy cons optimized for 2D games.
 
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