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[Reebot]

if I had to bet, Ellie and Joel will surely

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die like most of the cast in the 1st game

other guesses:

.- Bill

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will still be around, and make an appearance that mofo can take care of himself.

.- Tommy

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and co all dead attacked by hunters.

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but I mostly expect a fresh new cast, that's just how the world of TLOU works

The idea of having a mostly new cast briefly intersect with Joel and Ellie got thrown around a lot. While I still wouldn't want to see the two at all that would be an alright approach.

Like, I understand the marketing dynamics here. Bringing back these characters gets a lot of sales. I get that. It still super disappointing and treads on the amazing ending of the first game.

So I hope you're right and we get a lot of fresh faces with only brief appearances by the old cast. But I suspect not.

 

[SirMossyBloke]

Agreed. It's lazy work using the same characters, characters who had their ending. It's Uncharted 4 all over again. An unnecessary sequel to characters that had their ending in the game before, just to make a quick buck.

Using that lazy word again I see.

Ignorant and ridiculous. You're why people make fun of GAF.

 

[eFKac]

TLOU absolutely didn't need a sequel. Time to milk the franchise I guess.

Yup.

Will probably be 5-6 years after the release of the first game.

Bitch is dryyyyy already dog.

 

[Poster#1]

Just think of it as one game split into two. Like what they are doing with some movies. Maybe it'll make you feel better Heh

I personally thought the ending was perfect and didn't need a sequel. But I'm fucking on the hype train right now.

The ending for TLOU was PERFECT. I'm sure it will end up being a trilogy. I hope it turns out as good as the first.

 

[WadiumArcadium]

Agreed. It's lazy work using the same characters, characters who had their ending. It's Uncharted 4 all over again. An unnecessary sequel to characters that had their ending in the game before, just to make a quick buck.

Uncharted 4 was a much better ending to the series than Uncharted 3 would have been though. I trust Naughty Dog.

 

[Cabbagehead]

No you don't. You are just resting in the previous perfection. Trust in the team that brought you the experience.

Exactly. They know their characters and their story.

 

[Elitist1945]

I cried.

 

[Kaversmed]

A lot of glass-half-full comments in here.

I have faith in Naughty Dog - they know exactly what they're doing.

 

[zsynqx]

Hype aside, TLoU has been reconsidered in recent years by many here on this very forum as not that great.

I wanted no Ellie, no Joel and new stories in the world that aren't cover shooter murder sims. What you want and what you get are 2 diff things tho :/

I wouldn't say that.

Compared to some other popular games, including ones released by ND, tlou has received minimal backlash on this forum.

TLOU's combat was so much better than Uncharted's. More weighty impactful, better A.I., and survival based crafting added a layer of strategy on harder difficulties. Encounters could, and often needed to be tackled with creativity. Looking forward to seeing that expanded here.

Completely agree.

 

[Nameless]

TLOU's combat was so much better than Uncharted's. More weighty impactful, better A.I., and survival based crafting added a layer of strategy on harder difficulties. Encounters could, and often needed to be tackled with creativity. Looking forward to seeing that expanded here.

 

[SRTtoZ]

Another game in the TLOU universe I'd be totally for, but using these characters again doesn't sit right with me

I'll let Neil know when I see him that it doesn't sit right with Officerrob.

 

[Obliterator]

Jesus bringing these characters back isn't just about sales. They have a legit story to tell, it was still wide open.

These debates are going to be insufferable over the next few years

 

[JuanLatino]

Agreed. It's lazy work using the same characters, characters who had their ending. It's Uncharted 4 all over again. An unnecessary sequel to characters that had their ending in the game before, just to make a quick buck.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2016/12/03/the-last-of-us-part-ii/

I can’t tell you how satisfying it is to finally be able to say that Ellie and Joel are back for another intense, harrowing, and emotional adventure. Like many of you, we have a deep love for the world of The Last of Us and its characters, and while a sequel may have seemed like a foregone conclusion, that wasn’t the case. We knew that it needed to be a story worth telling and, perhaps more importantly, a story worthy of Joel and Ellie. After spending years on different ideas (and almost giving up), we finally uncovered a story that felt special—a story that evolved into an epic journey.

 

[Reebot]

This is definitely you using that crystal in order to say, without a doubt, this game will be less than the first because of some fantasy that the first game was so perfect there was no need nor any way there could be a great story with the same characters.

That's impressively wrong.

Did you intentionally try to miss the point? If so, well done.

I think this ruins the ending of TLoU 1. Didn't say it hurt TLoU 2.

 

[More_Badass]

Agreed. It's lazy work using the same characters, characters who had their ending. It's Uncharted 4 all over again. An unnecessary sequel to characters that had their ending in the game before, just to make a quick buck.

In other words, "I'll jump to conclusions about what I feel is bad despite having absolutely zero knowledge about the story"

 

[John Kowalski]

TLOU absolutely didn't need a sequel. Time to milk the franchise I guess.

Make one game about Joel, make one game about Ellie, sounds like good math to me.

 

[Officerrob]

Using that lazy word again I see.

Ignorant and ridiculous. You're why people make fun of GAF.

We have people in this thread talking about cumming themselves, and you think people with a different opinion on bringing back video game characters is why people make fun of GAF...

 

[AndrewDean84xX]

Using that lazy word again I see.

Ignorant and ridiculous. You're why people make fun of GAF.

I thought people made fun of GAF because we gave Bloodborne Game of the Year.

 

[Business]

TLOU Online did.

Amen.

 

[Dunkers92]

The excitement levels are off the charts at the moment.

The Last of Us is my favourite game of all time. If anyone can pull off a follow up, it's naughty dog.

Was watching the trailer at work and legit starting hitting the table with excitement when the firefly logo appeared.

 

[Zhao_Yun]

Man, I would have been totally fine with The Last of Us staying a single game, but after watching the trailer I can't help but being excited.

 

[SirMossyBloke]

That's impressively wrong.

Did you intentionally try to miss the point? If so, well done.

I think this ruins the ending of TLoU 1. Didn't say it hurt TLoU 2.

Could you explain to us all how this "ruins" the end of the first game. I think we're all very interested.

 

[msdstc]

So excited for this. Lol at people saying they had their ending. I agree TLOU couldve been a one off, but there still plenty left there to explore especially with how great these characters are. I really hope this is a better balance than UC4. I thought TLOU was a much better vessel for story telling in the style that druckman likes, but hopefully he doesn't go overboard with the forced walking and platforming bits.

 

[PLASTICA-MAN]

They just reconfirmed they are using new tech and engine (meaning upgraded) for TLOU2 at Uncharted 4 The Lost Legacy panel. Naughty Dog are magicians how they can upgrade their engine on same platforms each gen.

 

[Carl]

Agreed. It's lazy work using the same characters, characters who had their ending. It's Uncharted 4 all over again. An unnecessary sequel to characters that had their ending in the game before, just to make a quick buck.

It's highly disappointing that a game with such a good story, which ended so perfectly, has to have a sequel with the same characters "because money"

If it HAD to have a sequel it should have been new characters in the same universe. Disappointed in Naughty Dog

 

[Eppy Thatcher]

Fuck the haters I'm incredibly happy right now. Thank God Joel is back in cannot wait to wreck fools and re-dedicate my life to factions!! Yesh!

 

[Servbot24]

TLOU absolutely didn't need a sequel. Time to milk the franchise I guess.

2016 and people are still figuring out that games are made because of money.

How many games have ever needed a sequel anyways? Incredibly few. Mario didn't need a sequel. Zelda didn't, Metroid didn't. The huge majority of games resolve the story within the game. Maybe a random loose end tacked on at the end so there's an excuse to make more.

 

[PhantomX1313]

ND you fukin put joel like i saw in the trailer with all all bodyparts working alright or im disappointed.

 

[Niks]

Trailer looks amazing in 4K.
Holy shit, the wait for this game is going to be painful.

 

[zsynqx]

They just reconfirmed they are using new tech and engine (meaning upgraded) for TLOU2 at Uncharted 4 The Lost Legacy panel. Naughty Dog are magicians how they can upgrade their engine on same platforms each gen.

Pretty sure most devs do this with each new game.

 

[Kaversmed]

TLOU's combat was so much better than Uncharted's. More weighty impactful, better A.I., and survival based crafting added a layer of strategy on harder difficulties. Encounters could, and often needed to be tackled with creativity. Looking forward to seeing that expanded here.

Not to mention BRUTAL. Sogood.gif

 

[iNvid02]

We knew that it needed to be a story worth telling and, perhaps more importantly, a story worthy of Joel and Ellie. After spending years on different ideas (and almost giving up)

those lazy bastards, amirite gaf

 

[Reebot]

Could you explain to us all how this "ruins" the end of the first game. I think we're all very interested.

Problem with trying to sound pithy is the danger of missing something right in front of you.

I think if my first post in this thread hadn't addressed this exact point your snappy line might have worked better.

 

[DC1]

Agreed. It's lazy work using the same characters, characters who had their ending. It's Uncharted 4 all over again. An unnecessary sequel to characters that had their ending in the game before, just to make a quick buck.

This comment is incredibly condescending, remarkably shallow and can only be explained through poor trolling technique.

 

[Dreez]

OMG The Last of Us II I'm gonna cry...... my favorite game of all time 😭😭😭

 

[More_Badass]

It's highly disappointing that a game with such a good story, which ended so perfectly, has to have a sequel with the same characters "because money"

If it HAD to have a sequel it should have been new characters in the same universe. Disappointed in Naughty Dog

Or you know, they feel their story is worth continuing

 

[Audioboxer]

The excitement levels are off the charts at the moment.

The Last of Us is my favourite game of all time. If anyone can pull off a follow up, it's naughty dog.

Was watching the trailer at work and legit starting hitting the table with excitement when the firefly logo appeared.

Not my favourite game of all time but it is up there. Definitely better than UC. As much as I enjoy UC the team at ND does it best when they don't need to stick to teen rated. UC4 was a really good send off though, really enjoyed it and the way it ended.

But yeah from the second the TLoU ended I wanted a sequel.

 

[Gorillaz]

if I had to bet, Ellie and Joel will surely

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die like most of the cast in the 1st game

other guesses:

.- Bill

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will still be around, and make an appearance that mofo can take care of himself.

.- Tommy

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and co all dead attacked by hunters.

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but I mostly expect a fresh new cast, that's just how the world of TLOU works

What do you mean expect? It just became a 2 game world my dude. We don't really even know what type of narrative and world the series will be going forward

It could be new protagonists but it's mostly likely going to be ellie and Joel(maybe), again

 

[BroBot]

It's clear in the title alone (The Last of Us Part II) that the Last of Us is split into 2 parts. Left Behind was an intermission. The first part ended perfectly and yeah it could have stopped there, but Naughty Dog feels there's more to be told. I'm so ready for this. All aboard the hype train. 99 Metacritic.

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Ok maybe 97 Metacritic likely thanks to Polygon

 

[Thretau]

Well I guess I am buying a PS4.

Yeah, I guess I have to do the same. I was waiting for this to pull the trigger. Just disappointed in lack of 4K Blu-ray drive, have to buy a separate device for that... damn.

 

[tootie923]

TLOU Online did.

I didn't even think about TLOU II Online MP, there goes another 200 hours.

 

[Rozart]

Will lightning strike twice tho

Imma gging to go with a metacritic of 99.5. Yes, you can bookmark this post.

Shoutout to the peeps in the future 2018 TLOUPII review thread!

 

[Crossing Eden]

I would dispute the idea that The Walking Dead handles narrative that well to begin with, because the consequences are precisely not that important, and are trivialized by their frequency. I'm frankly too lazy to make the argument myself, so I'll quote this because it sums up my frustration with the show, and with so many other shows:

Again, killing characters is not the only way to inspire character consequences and growth, nor is it even necessarily the most reliable.

Consider that TWD is consistently better written and handled than the narrative in TLOU, (not having a character who has a magical cure because reasons for one), and handles death better than TLOU because we usually have a much better understanding of the characters than the relatively short amount of screen time they had in TLOU. Character deaths have changed a shit ton of the characters in these shows, how was Joel changed by the death of Sam and Henry? He wasn't. It's not even just deaths either, it's seeing the characters get genuinely hurt. It was literally hard to breath during this moment in GoT's last season, because that's how into it the audience was. TLOU has no moment like that, and is much more pornographic since look at how many people die in comparison to Joel and Ellie. When these things leave them, especially Joel, relatively unchanged it's hard to get invested as the biggest character change comes from Ellie having to face David without Joel around. It takes 3/4ths of the game for Ellie to experience a major change in character and personality.

I'm not sure how you get to the end of The Last of Us and thing there aren't consequences for what has happened.

Oh there will be consequences alright, preferably in the form of bullets, to Joel's skull. But i'm sure he'll be fine once he gets some more penicillin.

It was my mistake to bring up Breaking Bad, because it's one of the few shoes that manages to handle character deaths and drama in general with absolute appropriateness throughout the show. I don't think anyone reasonable is claiming that The Last of Us has drama on par with Breaking Bad.

Oh you'd be surprised how much gamers hype up a game like TLOU and think it holds up well against something like Breaking Bad. Some would even tell you that it's the best narrative ever.

Some schmuck on GAF doesn't prove your point if you're trying to have a serious discussion. Some schmucks claim stupid shit all the time.

I mean if it was a minority i'd understand but holy shit do gamers hold up the narrative of TLOU as some golden egg that is absolutely comparable to modern day television or

Literally how pulp action flicks usually work. The action heroes are coated in plot armor, that doesn't really mean anything to me when I'm along to watch a silly action story unfold.[/QUOTE]
Then maybe we should stop treating UC games as a golden egg of video game narratives. especially since the one that realized the most that it was pulp without a shit ton of contrivances to justify the actions of Drake was UC2. Nathan Drake wasn't an asshole in UC2, he was an unwilling hero/thief, he's a straight up asshole in UC3/4 and thus it's much harder to empathize with him when his wife gets mad or leaves him or feel happy when she comes back yet again.

 

[a916]

A lot of glass-half-full comments in here.

I have faith in Naughty Dog - they know exactly what they're doing.

If there's one studio that's earned that pedigree, it's them. I have blind faith in them until they stumble badly.

 

[Nameless]

They just reconfirmed they are using new tech and engine (meaning upgraded) for TLOU2 at Uncharted 4 The Lost Legacy panel. Naughty Dog are magicians how they can upgrade their engine on same platforms each gen.

Expecting near trailer quality gameplay on Pro.

 

[strafer]

Then this picture wasnt fake after all.

 

[Astral Dog]

We are not longer the Last of Us

 

[SirMossyBloke]

Problem with trying to sound pithy is the danger of missing something right in front of you.

I think if my first post in this thread hadn't addressed this exact point your snappy line might have worked better.

So you can't explain. Gotcha.

 

[holygeesus]

Erm, not being funny, but there are some very odd reactions in here. It's a teaser trailer to a game probably a year off. Maybe give it a chance?

 

[Jombie]

LOL my god the hyperbole of some of you....

Just because some are raining on your hype doesn't make it hyperbole.

JUST ENJOY GAMES