Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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If he said Uncharted: Chloe Edition is "just Tomb Raider with Chloe", I'd argue with depth. Here it's just laughable lol.
Like FTFY.
Ellie is the main playable character in The Last of Us: Part II
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If he said Uncharted: Chloe Edition is "just Tomb Raider with Chloe", I'd argue with depth. Here it's just laughable lol.
Like FTFY.
TatteredHat
Member
I will miss playing as Joel, but I'm ok with this as well.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
I'm assuming she rekt everyone in that house in the trailer; not sure if she isn't already the captain.
Any Questions
Member
Am completely happy with this gaming decision
excelsiorlef
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Nah now with Ellie it's no longer just Uncharted with Joel...
Ellie and Lara Croft aren't anywhere the same just like Joel and Nathan Drake aren't...
Morrigan Stark
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BouncyFrag
Member
She better have learned how to swim.
boredandlazy
Member
I didn't realise I was playing Tomb Raider during Winter of the first game...
People can't just enjoy a girl being badass/psychopathic serial killer taking out an entire house full of people then playing a guitar bathed in their blood can they..
Its always gotta be "myeh, i can't project myself onto a girl, i'll get cooties!"
Its always gotta be "myeh, i can't project myself onto a girl, i'll get cooties!"
How is this even a thing. I'd totally relate to someone like Ellie more than some marine dudebro regardless of her gender.
brickarts295
Member
That switch blade of hers better be fucking unbreakable XD
Good, Ellie is awesome and in the trailer she is a badass
Pffff I enjoy that a lot <_<
Between that and if Horizon turns out good I might finally get myself a PS4, and play the first one as well.
Instead of Tomb Raider with Joel then ? I'm fine with that. Even though Tomb Raider and TLOU don't seem to have much in common.
Haha, I can't believe people are bitching about this when you played as her in the first game, the DLC and most of what happens in the first game is centered around her. Makes completely sense that we'd play her now that she's an adult.
Holy shit, where'd he say this?
Holy shit, where'd he say this?
Through some paperwork in the last area, it was alway assumed that Ellie wasn't 100% confirmed to lead to a cure since she wasn't the only one immune but that changes the ending completely. Makes the ending so much better, though.
TetraGenesis
Member
Wow. You really didn't get this game at all.
The reason Joel tries to pawn Ellie off on his brother is because he could feel himself growing attached and starting to love her. Joel chose not to love anything or anyone else in that world after Sara because he couldn't bear to lose them again.
Ellie is the first person he started to care about as much as his daughter and that made him so afraid that he felt he had to get rid of her. For her sake. He didn't feel fit to watch over her because he believed he is a person that loses what he loves.
God, it blows my mind how simple and ignorant people are about the events of this game (especially the ending). Some people need to take an English class. Learn how to properly digest and analyze a story beyond its surface.
selfconfessedcynic
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Awesome news. I love Joel (he's actually my favourite between the two), but as a sequel, it feels right to play as Ellie IMO.
You stole my post. Perfect
Mr. Giggles
Member
Lmao.
TetraGenesis
Member
I know you're banned but I just have to say:
It is so fucking funny that you call yourself a feminist. This is just like "now I own both consoles but..."
Audioboxer
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We don't even know that? All that has been confirmed is Ellie is taking the lead. What is with the jump to conclusions mat coming out for a game we know like nothing about? If Joel is playable maybe it's just 55 / 45 in favour of Ellie. No one knows. So why on earth are some of you saying Joel isn't playable? ND didn't say that.
I mean at least you've tried to claw back some sense of normality from your original remark that gave you some heat. It was a bit of a daft thing to say (as a 40 year old man I cannot fathom playing a teenage girl... I mean you already did in TLoU and that game is Joel AND Ellie's story), however sure, opinions be opinions. I don't appreciate the members on here who sometimes group together and dog-pile aggressively as if to either try and start arguments or ban bait. It's fine to call out a seemingly weak argument like I did to you originally but I will defend some of the eye-rolling aggressive posts that came your way. Unpopular opinion can be called out without always getting so aggressive, I dunno why some posters are seemingly turned to post aggressively nearly all the time!
The other dude who got banned though, that was some top tier shit posting... TLoU is the bad type feminism? What? ND in particular have created some great female leads/sidekicks.
My god. I'm dying laughing hereI feel you, man.
As a 26 year old male physician, I haven't been able to enjoy a game since Surgeon Simulator
PhantomX1313
Member
So much salt here for joel, he needs to be acknowledged also. He took care of Ellie like father figure for the first full game, he could have walked off. Leaving joel for cutscenes would not be good. We should play as both.
TetraGenesis
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"Inevitably."
I think the worst thing you could do is assume Neil Druckmann will make the obvious choice.
Also, this ghost thing people are throwing around. Do you honestly think Neil would engage in one of the most hackneyed, clichéd tropes in narrative fiction?
I'll trust the devs more than you.
Ocarina_117
Banned
Hope they deliver upon the AI promised in the first.
butman
Member
Don't worry, just wait for Joel story DLC covering what happened between Part I and II.
It's so obvious.
Not only that. It was clearly show in the game that during the 20 year period between outbreak and Ellie, Joel was part of the roaming bands of bandits that prayed on the innocents. He did everything to survive, including being part of Fireflies with his brother, and eventually becoming ruthless gun smuggler together with Tess.
And in the winter chapter, he murdered his captives after he tortured them for information.
May I ask what you thought of the first game?
Sephiroth_VII
Member
I know he's banned now, but I find it ironic that he uses the exact same arguments some people(me) criticise some feminists for using: Just give us the choice.
Yes, because writing two stories is totally not more resource intensive than writing one. Surely you'd expect Joel's choices and fighting style to be different from Ellie's, meaning you're pretty much asking ND to develop two games to suit your preferences. Well suck it up. This is the story Naughty Dog wants to tell, and if you don't like it, too bad.
It's the 'I'll talk in 140 characters in all my posts in every box office thread'-guy. You made a wise choice.
Doctor Avatar
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Not that I agree with the sentiment that it's anything other than amazing that Ellie is the lead, she's a far more interesting character than Joel who had his arc, but it is strange to see how differently people react to those who say they can't relate based on gender.
If a girl says she can't relate to Master Chief she's lauded and supported, and videogames are the problem.
If a guy says he can't relate to Ellie he's told how unempathetic he is, and that he's the problem.
We need to stop with this "I need to be exactly the same as the lead character or I can't relate" rubbish - from both sides. People are not defined by their genitalia, what they want to do with said genitalia or the colour of their skin. I relate more with Max from Life is Strange than Marcus Fenix from GoW because I don't define myself entirely based those three things.
These gender discussions are always far too superficial and shallow for me, far too obsessed with labelling people and putting them in boxes. It's reductive to the extreme.
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Advice for everyone on issues like this IMO - both sides.
If a girl says she can't relate to Master Chief she's lauded and supported, and videogames are the problem.
If a guy says he can't relate to Ellie he's told how unempathetic he is, and that he's the problem.
We need to stop with this "I need to be exactly the same as the lead character or I can't relate" rubbish - from both sides. People are not defined by their genitalia, what they want to do with said genitalia or the colour of their skin. I relate more with Max from Life is Strange than Marcus Fenix from GoW because I don't define myself entirely based those three things.
These gender discussions are always far too superficial and shallow for me, far too obsessed with labelling people and putting them in boxes. It's reductive to the extreme.
EDIT:
Advice for everyone on issues like this IMO - both sides.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Not to mention taken down by their own incompetence in Colorado. Fuck the Fireflies, even if they could manufacture a cure, they'd just fuck it up somehow. Tommy's people had a better idea.
Edit: also, if the roles were somehow reversed at the end of the game, I imagine Ellie would have done the exact same thing if she could.
My favorite last-gen game.
edit:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=63757021&postcount=5713
I was more effusive in my praise than I remembered, heh.
And after I take the class you can piss off with the condescension. Some make it very hard to have a decent back and forth on here. I'm not the only who saw it the way I did.
BTW...I write scripts for fun. I've been reviewed and know I can write a competent story with a little depth. Miss me with this crap.
Beerman462
Member
Cool. I need to stay out of these fan fiction threads though..
Also lol at first page acting like a female protagonist is some new thing. People talking about Horizon, but completely forgeting Tomb Raider. How about Mirrors Edge? Metroid? Bayonetta? Bloodrayne? Recore?
Not to mention Ellie being playable for a good bit of TLOU, including her own DLC. Oh yeah Infamous Second Son: First Light you play as Fetch.
Also lol at first page acting like a female protagonist is some new thing. People talking about Horizon, but completely forgeting Tomb Raider. How about Mirrors Edge? Metroid? Bayonetta? Bloodrayne? Recore?
Not to mention Ellie being playable for a good bit of TLOU, including her own DLC. Oh yeah Infamous Second Son: First Light you play as Fetch.
lukeskymac
Member
This dude just said he can't relate to Ellie because she's female but feels a great connection to Noctis because he loves anime.
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i can't
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Deleted member 752119
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I'm happy with that. The winter portion was the best part of the original. There's a lot more character development potential going forward for her than there is for Joel--his arc was well fleshed out in the first game.