Unless they died, which is what I'm going with. Far more comforting for them all to be together in the afterlife.
Final Fantasy XV SPOILER THREAD
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Unless they died, which is what I'm going with. Far more comforting for them all to be together in the afterlife.
encephalon
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The FNC is basically FFI, III, and V, but with a "yeah, but what if the crystals were bad?" type of twist. Or perhaps they're imperfect, have their own goals, etc. So FFXIII is about characters cursed to become warriors of light. It's a fun idea, but unfortunately it didn't know what to do with it.
By the way, I wanted to bring this up, but I'm guessing it's probably not a coincidence that "l'cie" and "lucis" are very similar in the Japanese. ルシ and ルシス.
By the way, I wanted to bring this up, but I'm guessing it's probably not a coincidence that "l'cie" and "lucis" are very similar in the Japanese. ルシ and ルシス.
at least gladio can finally fish
ULTROS!
People seem to like me because I am polite and I am rarely late. I like to eat ice cream and I really enjoy a nice pair of slacks.
and prompto has no best friend to have selfies with and joke around
Man it really just hit me, but Noctis saying "Where we're going, there are no roads" upon first use of the flying car sounds so bittersweet in light of the fact that he's dead. The quote is like one of those things you hear when someone's just living out in an endless dream world, never to wake again...
Prompto is sociable,funny& good looking.
He's not gonna struggle much.
Iggy,on the other hand,lost his eye sight...
roflwaffles
Member
It honestly doesn't matter if the story is better than XII/XIII's.
What matters is that the story here is told like garbage.
What matters is that the story here is told like garbage.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Ignis hasn't been friendzoned for ten years. So Ignis still wins.
That reminds me - if the ending involved all extant daemons being purged, I wonder what that meant for Niflheim's other experiments. Depending on what exactly he had been subjected to, Prompto might not have survived.
poipoipoi9
Member
Also notable in the Japanese version is that the "daemons" were referred to as "shigai", similarly to FFXIII's "Cieth". I'm sure there are some elements from FNC still remaining somehow.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
They weren't with Noct and Luna at the end, though. If they actually died I think they would have showed up in that scene, too.
Ganon Dragmire
Member
poipoipoi9
Member
Ifrit being the source of the plague and the plague turning people into daemons is somewhat reminiscent of fal'Cie giving out failed Focuses in order to turn people into CIeth en mass.
Also fun fact: Ravus' Japanese VA is also Cid's VA from XIII who also suffered from the same fate.
Just his armour though. His face is very much human, unlike the fal'Cie from XIII.
Although, the KoTR are very fal'Cie-like in terms of appearance. Wonder if they had a larger role in a previous script. They are on the cover after all with the bros preparing to fight them after all...
Also fun fact: Ravus' Japanese VA is also Cid's VA from XIII who also suffered from the same fate.
Just his armour though. His face is very much human, unlike the fal'Cie from XIII.
Although, the KoTR are very fal'Cie-like in terms of appearance. Wonder if they had a larger role in a previous script. They are on the cover after all with the bros preparing to fight them after all...
McMoneyman
Member
Also surprised by the lack of CG cutscenes in this game honestly.
The one after Luna's death was amazing though.
The one after Luna's death was amazing though.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
The ring scene in ch 13 sucked compared to kingsglave
Solid Sora
Member
Are you sure this's what happened? When I saw the scene what I understood was that Ardyn was the jealous king and that he literally transformed the healer into a deamon, and that's why the crystal cursed him with immortality, as a punishment.
Maybe I got it completely wrong, I need to rewatch that scene.
poipoipoi9
Member
CG cutscenes do take a lot of space, especially since this game is dubbed and lip-synced in several languages. In older FFs, the English dub for CG scenes is usually off considering they're made for the Japanese dub. When FFXIII lip-synced the CG scenes to both languages, it meant having to store double the cutscenes in the game if they wanted to include both voices (which did happen in the Steam version).
And of course, the fidelity in in-game graphics nowadays means that you can have a really cool in-game cutscene (the KoTR fight at the very end for example) without needing to resort to CG.
I miss CG scenes dearly though. The lack of an Altissia CG scene in game disappoints me to no end.
That Dude John
Member
I kinda was hoping he'd get to talk to Regis and the other kings tbh.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
roflwaffles
Member
Where did you guys get the info about Ifrit?
Honestly he just felt shoehorned in without any explanation on why he's on Ardyn's side.
Honestly he just felt shoehorned in without any explanation on why he's on Ardyn's side.
Ganon Dragmire
Member
One day in a FFXV development meeting:
Tabata: Alright guys, we need to sell companion DLC. Let's start with what we can do to sell Gladio. You know, the guy everyone is begging us to sell shirtless DLC for, no matter the cost.
Clever developer: How about we give him a huge, fugly scar right across his torso in his DLC episode! People will love it!
Tabata: Awesome! I can see it already in front of my eyes! :3
Tabata: Okay, how about Cindy...?
Clever developer: Oh, I had a cool idea there as well! It is regarding one of her breasts...
Tabata: Alright guys, we need to sell companion DLC. Let's start with what we can do to sell Gladio. You know, the guy everyone is begging us to sell shirtless DLC for, no matter the cost.
Clever developer: How about we give him a huge, fugly scar right across his torso in his DLC episode! People will love it!
Tabata: Awesome! I can see it already in front of my eyes! :3
Tabata: Okay, how about Cindy...?
Clever developer: Oh, I had a cool idea there as well!
It is regarding one of her breasts...So why does the consensus around Ardyn seem to be that he's not part of Noctis's bloodline? People seem to think that the original King that betrayed Ardyn (Izunia?) took the Lucis Caelum name, but what about them both being from the same family? It just seems odd that the implication might be that Noctis and his whole line are impostors.
No ardyn was the healer. I think izunia was his brother, nocts ancestor. It makes the whole thing more of a betrayal. He heals the people only to be turned down by the gods, then his own family disowns him and turns him into a monster. Way worse than some random dude becoming the new king and bashing him.
^ I like this theory the best, and I just saw a few other videos that basically proposed the same thing (saying that Izunia was likely not a surname, but the first name of the King that shunned Ardyn).
Pilgrimzero
Member
This. She was a horribly written (female) character and I was just a plot device. And the first real evidence the story was a mess.
Toadthemushroom
Member
Damn, do you get different dialogue when choosing different photos before you head off to the final battle? Might have to replay that segment for laughs.
Ha! I picked
a group photo from one of the photo opportunities, I only wanted just the four in mine.
Transistor
Banned
Posted this in the OT, but will probably get more discussion here:
Finished the game last night and while I overall enjoyed it, I have a few gripes. I'm just gonna spoiler the whole damn thing, so don't read unless you've finished the game:
1) In a way, it felt like a reverse of FFXIII. Where XIII was way too closed for the first 90% of the game and opens up at the end, XV felt like the opposite. Way too open in the beginning and then way too closed off as you continue the story. I think a healthier dose of open world environments besides just Lucis would have been nice (and in all honesty, I just felt Lucis was too big.
2) The story really started getting interesting towards the end. I would have LOVED more to do in post-apocalypse Lucis.
3) God damn, grizzled Noctis and the gang were dapper as FUCK in their king and kingsglaive outfits.
4) I loved active mode, but the ability to do Libra manually in wait mode was fantastic. Why can't they give me a libra button in active mode?
5) The empire not chasing Noctis worth a damn was stupefying at first, but I guess it kind of makes sense when you realize that the empire isn't really being controlled by humans anymore.
6) This game has some of the most annoying side quests ever. "Hey you, go here and get this thing and bring it back. You did that? Well do it again, fucker."
7) FUCK THE CASTLEMARK DUNGEON MAZE
8) Summons coming out "whenever the fuck they feel like it" just felt weird. I'd have more preferred it if they were only reserved for boss battles, like in the ending.
9) The whole Altissa chapter felt like off to me. It was just paced extremely weird.
Overall, I really liked the game, especially once I stopped being obsessed with every side quest. It definitely shows a struggled development cycle, but it was nowhere near a bad game.
Finished the game last night and while I overall enjoyed it, I have a few gripes. I'm just gonna spoiler the whole damn thing, so don't read unless you've finished the game:
1) In a way, it felt like a reverse of FFXIII. Where XIII was way too closed for the first 90% of the game and opens up at the end, XV felt like the opposite. Way too open in the beginning and then way too closed off as you continue the story. I think a healthier dose of open world environments besides just Lucis would have been nice (and in all honesty, I just felt Lucis was too big.
2) The story really started getting interesting towards the end. I would have LOVED more to do in post-apocalypse Lucis.
3) God damn, grizzled Noctis and the gang were dapper as FUCK in their king and kingsglaive outfits.
4) I loved active mode, but the ability to do Libra manually in wait mode was fantastic. Why can't they give me a libra button in active mode?
5) The empire not chasing Noctis worth a damn was stupefying at first, but I guess it kind of makes sense when you realize that the empire isn't really being controlled by humans anymore.
6) This game has some of the most annoying side quests ever. "Hey you, go here and get this thing and bring it back. You did that? Well do it again, fucker."
7) FUCK THE CASTLEMARK DUNGEON MAZE
8) Summons coming out "whenever the fuck they feel like it" just felt weird. I'd have more preferred it if they were only reserved for boss battles, like in the ending.
9) The whole Altissa chapter felt like off to me. It was just paced extremely weird.
Overall, I really liked the game, especially once I stopped being obsessed with every side quest. It definitely shows a struggled development cycle, but it was nowhere near a bad game.
Toadthemushroom
Member
I am fairly certain that the game switches to pre-recorded cutscenes that use the in-game engine at a few points, though. Mostly because it'd be too much stress for the game to load in all the assets at once (when you arrive in Altissia, it switches to pre-recorded at the last moment), or it's drawing in too much.
toastyToast
Member
you have my axe. don't forget eruyt village
i can't remember shit from this games ost. probably because i couldn't hear it over the sound of my PS4
yes, he doesn't literally says it but when he says "I leave it to you, Walk tall" I don't think that's empy words. I just saying that it implies that Noc wants them to work for Lucis and Insomnia again (so there's a point on them being alive).
EDIT: Man this thread does move fast too lol
Like 10 minutes later you can go back
Mister Megative
Banned
Just because you have healing items doesn't mean something is piss easy. I died during Ardyn's first phase. I've never died once at Kefka, ever.
Once any of your characters learn Ultima in FF6 the game is basically over. The entire end dungeon just becomes a game of keeping your MP up.
I definitely had more trouble in Ruined Insomnia than any other final area, besides Crystal Tower in III because fuck having no save points.
Got my certificate of completion last night. Great game overall, but once Luna dies everything gets weird. It's a double whammy because the story was still kind of setting everything up and then it ventured into very messy, unfinished territory. There are so many things I don't understand. I felt a lack of attachment to the characters despite the strong ending because they didn't really spend enough time on them, their development, how they needed to be woven into the fabric of the story.
Like so many others have said, FFXV has the best story, setting, etc. in years but it's told so poorly that it doesn't realize it's potential. It's very unfortunate.
For a game that took so long to come out it is rather disappointing that the plot has tons of holes and question marks in it. I loved most other things about this game, but the lack of a complete, or at least coherent story from end to end really sucks.
Like so many others have said, FFXV has the best story, setting, etc. in years but it's told so poorly that it doesn't realize it's potential. It's very unfortunate.
For a game that took so long to come out it is rather disappointing that the plot has tons of holes and question marks in it. I loved most other things about this game, but the lack of a complete, or at least coherent story from end to end really sucks.
Mister Megative
Banned
Erm, I know a TON of people who've put it in their top five. It's tied with VI as my favorite.
Even if that were true, which it's not, why would it make you glad?
encephalon
Member
Old noctis still looks like noctis during I'm game cutscenes, but not in cg. He looks a lot more "half."
The story, the main characters and the villain are actually great, probably among the very best in the Final Fantasy series. This story is however told very poorly in the game and is additionally fragmented over a plethora of other media like Kingsglaive, Brotherhood, FFXV Prologue, the game guide and soon the DLC episodes.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
It's just a Back to the Future reference, yo.
encephalon
Member
It's over. It's finally over.
he can help me catch that giant fish that is fucking impossible.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Whoa! DLC please