Rogue One: A Star Wars Story |OT| They rebel - SPOILERS
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I've seen a lot of horror films. This is an iconic horror movie scene. Vader gives no fucks.
It's not needed for plot, but dear God does it work regardless. It reminds you that for all the machines and empires, a Jedi is the most frightening thing of all.
dragonyeuw
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So as I said in a prior post, if a sheltered 8 year Ani who's lived his life on Tattooine as a slave knows about the Jedi. What are the odds that enough of the natives are familiar with the Jedi with that being the case? I'd say pretty good. How would Ani know about them anyway? Presumably he's never encountered one prior to Qui-gon and Obi-wan, but he's certainly aware of their weapon of choice, which I imagine would come from stories being passed about throughout the community.
I think someone wielding a lightsaber is going to raise suspicion among the patrons of that bar. I can't imagine every single person/creature in that bar witnessed that fight and thought 'hmmm, probably found that saber in the local dumpster or Watto's junkyard'. Some scumbag would have thought it advantageous to report this to the stormtroopers roaming about. Anyways I pretty much ran myself dry talking about this yesterday so not feeling another round of back and forth on the topic. That's my 2 cents.
Gamecocks625
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It'll end up being one of those iconic Star Wars moments. Incredible scene.
Haloid1177
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That and Bespin duel are neck and neck for my fave Star Wars scene now.
I concur with people who found the film a slog, but everything from Hannibal's sacrifice onwards is gold. Best third act in years and far superior to any DC or Marvel ending stretch - and I say that as a DC Stan.
It kinda was needed, though. The whole time I'm sitting there, wondering what they're going to do with the plans. The whole point of ANH was that Leia/R2 was the only one with the plans, and had to get them back to the Rebellion.
The only thing that really bothered me was the size of the Rebel fleet. I thought it was way too big. They're supposed to be some rag-tag group of rebels that can barely hold it together, but they have a fleet? And the Mon Cal commander bothered me, too. Shoulda been Dodonna or Rieekan. Or really it should have been Garm Bel Iblis.
Yes, I was an EU whore when I was a kid.
Nova Prime
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Sorry if this has been asked before, but with the history of Star Wars and re-releases, what are the chances that somewhere down the line when the technology is better we could get a special edition which does a better job with Tarkin and Leia?
Skellig Gra
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It's definitely possible but I wouldn't count on it.
Maybe they'll throw Jar Jar in there too and he dies on Jedha.
I wouldn't be surprised if there are going to be a couple of small touch ups between the theatrical version and the home release. It's happened before with movies like this. Nothing major but hopefully a bit of fixing with the mouths etc. Don't expect a full overhaul though.
As for future complete special editions after that - nobody obviously knows. People are still angry at George Lucas for the OT special editions (especially not making the originals available), and Disney has been very aware of the negativity that surrounded Star Wars after that, and especially after the reaction to the prequel movies. They haven't exactly been hiding their mission statement to get back to the OT status with these new movies.
So I wouldn't expect a further special edition anytime soon, but hey, who knows what can happen in 20, 30 years. They're releasing one of these things every year from now until the end of time, so at some point you'll inevitably get people complaining about the new movies at that point and wanting a rerelease for this era of movies, which will be considered classics at that point.
infiniteloop
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why is Vader not wrecking shit at the start of New Hope. Just walks in looking for the plans like me when I've lost my car keys and I'm late for work.
He's been chasing them for hours/days/weeks at that point and he's tired of that shit. He's missing his bubble bath his butler prepared for him in his lava castle.
Haloid1177
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Vader took a small boarding party to the cruiser, he had to handle it himself. In ANH the Tantive IV was brought into a Star Destroyer, tons of troops were available.
Inferno313
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Yeah his performance is great, definitely strange and odd, but in a totally fascinating "what the fuck has this guy been through???" kinda way.
If Lucas was still behind the SE versions, he'd have 3/4s of Leia's face covered. By rocks.
soxinthebox
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It was just ultimately a pointless character
Agreed! At least he tried to do something weird and interesting in a very appropriate way for a SW movie
Bubble Walrus
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HAHA! Star Wars fans are brilliantly delusional. I can't sop laughing.
FrontalMonk
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I made this point earlier, and the explanation that made the most sense to me is that this is in the heat of the moment, when they're trying to stop the ship from getting away. At the beginning of ANH, after they've been tracked down, shot up, and tractored in, there's no reason to think the plans have any way of eluding him again. Remember when he hears the escape pod left the Tantive IV? First he says to send a detachment down to retrieve them, then says "there'll be no one to stop us this time." There's no urgency, because Vader's arrogant enough to think there's no way the plans could actually escape their grasp again. Given that context, it makes sense to let the stormtroopers do their work and walk in as they're cleaning up.
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David Incorporated Esq.
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He had information critical to the rebellion and is the lynchpin for getting Jyn into the rebellion. How is he pointless?
CassidyIzABeast
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They made the movie in 1976.
Yeah I'm not getting the hate. Great performance wasted on a useless character. Still makes me mad that he was pretty much worthless. He was the most interesting character of the movie tbh.
Kralamoonard
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Jesus Star Wars went game of thrones and shit with this film. Was shocked to see literally everyone die. Thought yeah maybe you get the occasional side character who goes out with a bang but Jesus, even the main characters.
Wtf? Didn't you hate this movie and say it was the worst of the series, like, 5 days ago? :lol
Discotheque
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Eh was pretty much expecting them all to die since it's a prequel so they're all inconsequential to the plot of the rest of the movies and also it felt like the movie was always being sold as a sucide mission for all involved
Surprised at how little I cared about any of them dying. Liked the actors but blehh. None of it made even a miniscule impact. While there are defo strong scenes in here and it doesnt have the lows of the prequels I think I might one day call this the worst star wars movie up to this point
Also this would have been blatant but whatever it would have been hilarious if after Ben Mendelsohn questioned Vader, that Vader responded with "do you feel in charge?" As he force choked him. My dude has a bad history with bad guys in masks
Kralamoonard
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Woah, I gotta disagree lol, I was legit shocked that they died.
And personally never saw it coming. I at least expected some of them to survive, even if they don't appear in the later movies, I still thought maybe there was another way apart from death to explain why they're not a big deal in the succeeding movies.
rootbeerafloat
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The ending is atrocious. It's almost as sloppy, lazy and as nonsensical as the end of RotS. Should have just let the movie have its own ending instead of hamfistedly trying to run it up to the beginning of ANH.
Theslammer
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There really wasn't ham-fisted about it. At the end of ROTS, everything is tidied up to look like it did 20 years later. At the end of Rogue One, it's set up to look like it did 30 minutes later. After they get the plans, it doesn't take much to have it end before ANH begins.
brandonh83
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I did. I also had a big change of heart and saw things differently the second time.
^^I also thought the ending was very badly edited, when it cuts to credits it feels very rushed
Haloid1177
Banned
I mean Empire is objectively better but okay sure.
Oh no.
Lower than ROTS? Bruh.
BRANDON PLS HIGHER THAN ROTJ.
I quit.
You are truly the worst.
my sister who is a total casual star wars fan, only watched TFA, wasn't sure if tarkin was real. she thought something was off about him but wasn't sure.
I feel like that's going to be the natural response to the CG characters.
she's also going to watch a new hope now because she read that RO leads right into it. that will be interesting.
I feel like that's going to be the natural response to the CG characters.
she's also going to watch a new hope now because she read that RO leads right into it. that will be interesting.
brandonh83
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Not the best!
I also went from hating to loving The Village. It's possible to rewatch something with a different perspective.
^^ROTJ is mostly boring to me, yeah I'd rather rewatch Clones.
dragonyeuw
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Turrible( Bill Walton voice)
Empire Strikes Back
A New Hope
The Force Awakens
Rogue One
Return of the Jedi
Revenge of the Sith
The Phantom menace
Dog crap
Attack of the clones
Kralamoonard
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I never even knew Tarkin or Leia were CGI. I just thought they got really good look-a-likes and really good makeup.
Makes it even the more impressive!
God damn, I really loved this movie. I liked TFA, but this was definitely less of the same and a nice fresh, yet dark take on the SW universe.
And tbh, even if nothing 100% matches up with the sequels, I still really liked the ending line, about something called "hope" and obviously Ep. 4 being called A New Hope.
I felt they did the films enough service for it to not be a retcon.
Makes it even the more impressive!
God damn, I really loved this movie. I liked TFA, but this was definitely less of the same and a nice fresh, yet dark take on the SW universe.
And tbh, even if nothing 100% matches up with the sequels, I still really liked the ending line, about something called "hope" and obviously Ep. 4 being called A New Hope.
I felt they did the films enough service for it to not be a retcon.
Calcium
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I saw this last week and I have to say I didn't like it anywhere near as much as I thought I would. I feel like there is a good movie in here somewhere, but it didn't make it to the big screen. The characters were all pretty forgettable and the pacing was just ridiculous, especially in the first half hour. I'm honestly not sure why Saw Gerrera was in the movie, all the scenes with him just felt like a complete waste.
None of the call-backs or easter eggs in TFA really bothered me, but the duo from the Mos Eisley being on Jedha(?) was pretty stupid, I just had to roll my eyes at that one.
I'm really, really hoping that seeing it again in a theater with a better sound system will be a better experience. The first half hour of the movie just felt like a jumbled mess and I was struggling to keep up with everything. I know for sure that I missed some dialogue because of the abysmal sound system, so hopefully the first act is a little more coherent on the second viewing.
None of the call-backs or easter eggs in TFA really bothered me, but the duo from the Mos Eisley being on Jedha(?) was pretty stupid, I just had to roll my eyes at that one.
I'm really, really hoping that seeing it again in a theater with a better sound system will be a better experience. The first half hour of the movie just felt like a jumbled mess and I was struggling to keep up with everything. I know for sure that I missed some dialogue because of the abysmal sound system, so hopefully the first act is a little more coherent on the second viewing.
brandonh83
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Mine isn't actually that much different but okay.
Point of contentions I have with most people: I don't like 4 or 6 as much as others, and I don't hate 2 and 3 as much as others.
Now see if I were to put say TPM over ESB, I could roll with some hostility.
dragonyeuw
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Mine isn't actually that much different but okay.
Point of contentions I have with most people: I don't like 4 or 6 as much as others, and I don't hate 2 and 3 as much as others.
It's very different, but you're cheating placing two movies in one position
Let's see a list with one movie per positionLifejumper
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NVM.
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