IonicSnake
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Scotch said:
May I ask which games you are refering to? Because I found the games these games are sequals to pretty amazing except R2 which still was alright IMO.
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May I ask which games you are refering to? Because I found the games these games are sequals to pretty amazing except R2 which still was alright IMO.
Stumpokapow
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Did you guys not consider that the guy complaining about sequels might actually just be fed up with sequels, rather than being a secret Microsoft commando sent to infiltrate this thread and hate on Sony?
DevilWillcry
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Lightbox is a small start-up dev, Sony already had an ace (Insomniac) for GC 2010. Let Jobe and crew announce Starhawk when it's ready, more polish is always good, especially for a reveal.J-Rzez said:
supermackem
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Stumpokapow said:
Which one, the only does squeals posters?.:lol
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
There is some revisionist history going on here, Resistance 2 was not a bad game, it's just that Resistance 1 was a very good launch title and Resistance 2 never really built on it. I remember enjoying playing R2 but thinking it lacked some of the charm od R1, at no point did I think it was a bad game, not even close. I guess it might not be cool to say that nowadays but that's how I see it.
I am pretty sure a lot of the people saying the Resistance is a dead franchise have probably not played all the games. Retribution proved that as a franchise it can get back in the right direction.
I am pretty sure a lot of the people saying the Resistance is a dead franchise have probably not played all the games. Retribution proved that as a franchise it can get back in the right direction.
SolidusDave
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apart from the Move and PSN games we had no new IP announcements from Sony for quite some time now :/
I'm happy with the all those games coming but still I need something fresh to mix it up.
I'm happy with the all those games coming but still I need something fresh to mix it up.
PetriP-TNT
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R3 (!!!!) and new Ratchet and Clank and new GT5 trailer
Sony delivers!!
Sony delivers!!
Stumpokapow said:
That's the only thing I was thinking. But even still. I think they can both co-exist. They have to show it off sometime though. As they've both been in the works now for a while, so they both will probably release within a year of each other perhaps. I hope they don't relegate "Starhawk" to being unveiled in a Game Informer magazine.
Stumpokapow said:
Maybe but still unrealistic expectations. So many new IPs have been created this gen and of course they are going to use them. Anything else would be foolish. There still going to be new IPs but if you want more wait for the next gen.
And why did my PS3 die last weekend? That move bundle is so attractive.
kyo_daikun
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Stumpokapow said:
Yeah the Only does comment made it a more direct attack.
supermackem
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Bojanglez said:
R1 was fucking fantastic and you couldnt get what it was offering on any other console at the time. I loved that game and played it many many hours on my jpn imported ps3 sans blood if im not mistken.:lol
Rapping Granny said:
Pretty much sum up everything I feel about the series and Insomniac as a whole.
People always give them the benefit of the doubt.
Had Resistance 1 not the exclusive launch title that was heavily marketed, I don't think the series would ever fly beyond other second or third tier FPS like FEAR or Metro 2033. If you think about it, the series really doesn't have much stand out among the competition, other being a 1st party title.
What I really want from Insomniac is a new mascot platformer/shooter with brand new mechanic. That's what they do best.
Boombloxer
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radicalchris said:
All but 2 of those are new IP, not to mention Last Guardian, Heavy Rain, etc.
Stumpokapow
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ram said:
I'd argue that all three first-party platforms have had a dearth of new content for the last few years and the new content they have had have largely been lower tier stuff, more suitable to one-offs than strong IPs. I would not consider any of the move launch IP to be strongly branded; in terms of gameplay content, a few (such as Kung Fu Rider) seem novel enough and could count.
Sony did start off the generation strong, though, with Sucker Punch doing new IP, Naughty Dog doing new IP, investing in a few outside new IPs, and launching with a new Insomniac IP. Warhawk, as well, despite not strictly being new, was definitely a refreshing mix of an old abandoned IP with a new type of gameplay.
I don't want to dive into a pissing match about what games count as new and what don't, I just wanted to point out that there's no need to call someone a console warrior until they've actually outed themselves as such.
Boombloxer said:
I think by new IP, it's generally implied to mean "new IP" not "IP that's been new since the beginning of the generation"
Pretty accurate I think.seady said:
I always cringe at the tight development cycle argument which often arises. Yeah, they can make a functional middle of the road game in a short period of time, that to me is not a great thing. They aren't charging the user less, they're just selling them a mediocre game for the cost of a good one.
I think they're probably the most overrated development house outside of Nintendo.
Bojanglez
The Amiga Brotherhood
GeoramA said:
and you can guarantee that if they made a load of new IPs people would be complaining that they have ditched their beloved franchise X. They can't win, if people don't like sequels don't buy them. I am sure new IPs will come but Sony have to get in money making mode for a while in order to justify it, as long as they don't drive their IPs into the ground I am not that concerned.
radicalchris said:
Three (half) of those are new, original franchises that started this generation. I'd call this a pretty great mix. Maybe it's a bit shooter heavy, but if you complain about these games, let me know which console manufacturer did better new ip wise this generation.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Bojanglez said:
But the complaints wouldn't be from the same people. Some people want lots of sequels, some people want lots of new IP, some people claim to want new IP but only buy sequels, some people want everything, some people are just trolling.
Saying that some people would make the opposite complaint doesn't confirm or dismiss a complaint.
Momo said:
I want to say that's not accurate, but some posters are pretty... weird.
fortified_concept
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Stumpokapow said:
Then he should have made a comment about the videogame industry in general instead of making the "only does" joke that's usually made to satirize specifically PS3.
Rated-Rsuperstar
Member
Look the same thing applies for other titles as well.
demosthenes
Member
:lol This made me laugh @ work.SappYoda said:
Who in the hell would expect a jRPG reveal @ Gamescon when TGS is a month away?
PetriP-TNT
Member
I absolutely ADORE Resistance 2 so haters gonna hate
+1 for InFamous2 trailer too, haven't played I1 yet...
+1 for InFamous2 trailer too, haven't played I1 yet...
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
fortified_concept said:
Err, it's in a Sony thread, so I'm pretty sure he's allowed to skewer Sony in specific while not excluding that the viewpoint holds true for the other platforms. Especially with a posting record of literally one post, I'd think people would withhold hasty judgment.
MiamiWesker
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That LBP2 trailer is incredible. What will be done with that game will be legendary.
gamemadmax
Member
Resistance 3 trailer anyone ???
Sequels are often loved because it usually means a direct iteration, so usually gameplay/UI improvements. New IPs are often loved because they bring new ideas and experiences, but often fall short in terms of gameplay promise, there are exceptions in both cases of course, but I'd say generally that's fair, and those things are going to excite different people. Not everyone who rips on sequels is a console warrior, a great deal of people really don't give a fuck about platforms.
Ploid 3.0
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54-46! said:
Yes yes yes!!! Resistance 1's single player was friggin ace, Resistance 2's Co-op had me hooked for months. Now that they had a while to reflect I'm hoping they merge the best of both games, and add even more awesomeness to the 3rd. There's so much potential and that trailer makes it seem like the scary is back, and I'm sure they aren't going to do the 2 weapons only thing again. Also I hope that resistance 1 health system is back, it made the game more tense.
Ratchet A4One
I love this type of game. I bet it's like a action rpg. You know, like gaunlet, Baulder's Gate Dark Alliance, and Marvel's Ultimate Alliance (not sure if you gain abilities in that game). I'm sure the players will get exp like other ratchet games, and gadgets. This game is right up my alley as well. With their experience from Resistance 2 Co op I bet there will be a lot of tech tree like stuff going on in this game. I'm hyped for both.
<3 you Insomniac, and I await your new IP game, I'm sure it will be amazing as well. Best dev crew to me this gen. So much gaming sugar, as Kevin Butler would say. I bet Insomniac has a van full of candy.
fortified_concept
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El-Suave said:
The only actual shooters with the traditional sense of the word are Killzone and Resistance. Imo putting a tactical game like Socom, a sandbox and a platformer in that category is like putting FF and Soul Calibur together in the category of "sword games".