Lol this fanbase is so salty.
Uh...you know all the Prime games have scanning, right?
Uh...you know all the Prime games have scanning, right?
Metroid: Samus Returns Impressions: "I didn't want to stop playing."
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The trolls are easy to spot, they don't even know basic gameplay mechanics from the previous games.
Magicpaint
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Yeah Fusion is superb. The atmosphere is incredible, and while I do prefer my Metroid more open ended, the more linear structure kind of worked for Fusion.
Easily my most anticipated game out of E3 this year. Glad that announce to release is so short!
I like Fusion, it probably plays the best of all the 2D games, but I think a lot of the hate isn't the lack of backtracking but more the directed progression. The game literally shows you on the map where to go next which, while helpful, isn't necessarily Metroid's modus operandi.
I believe Metroid 2 was the first game to have the large shouldered Varia suit since the Gameboy was monochromatic so the developers needed a different way to show you got a new suit. Lord knows the sprite was large enough that they could put in additional detail.
I like Fusion, it probably plays the best of all the 2D games, but I think a lot of the hate isn't the lack of backtracking but more the directed progression. The game literally shows you on the map where to go next which, while helpful, isn't necessarily Metroid's modus operandi.
I believe Metroid 2 was the first game to have the large shouldered Varia suit since the Gameboy was monochromatic so the developers needed a different way to show you got a new suit. Lord knows the sprite was large enough that they could put in additional detail.
We better not mess this opportunity to bring Metroid back to life.
Yeah that's primarily what I take issue with. That and the extensive unskippable text, especially problematic in retrospect after after how unlikable Adam was in Other M.
Still love the game though, I usually go with the Fusion suit when playing as Samus in Smash
I'm there, day one. Looks great.
AdmiralMikey
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If anyone can be responsible for killing Metroid off again, it's Metroid fans.
Also, nice to see someone actually able to play on the stream! Sure, she died a few times on a boss, but if I remember right from the original game, that's a comparatively late one and quite a challenge.
Alec
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This is ridiculous.
balladofwindfishes
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Metroid II was the first game to do this, because there was no color to change for the suits, as there was in Metroid. Every game after that adopted the shoulders as being part of the suit upgrade.
I like Fusion the best because everything is so well-made. From the writing, the atmosphere, the bosses, the difficulty. It actually makes sense that Samus loses all her powers! It never made sense in Super Metroid that she has nothing when Ridley attacks her. When she visits Zebes, there are these neat underground caves filled with chozo technology for her to find.
I think this looks quality and that's why I'm gutted its not on the Switch
Hopefully we'll see it eventually. Just don't want it to be VC style with both screens jammed on the Switch screen. I'd like it optimised!
I bet they could remove the second screen display and make the map/additional content accessible via a separate menu by pressing + or -.
abstract alien
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Not really excited about this, considering the last game I played from them was that Castlevania game. Who knows how this will turn out, but the whole 30fps thing isn't a good start. Just because it's Metroid doesn't mean I'll take any thing they throw at me.
I'll just wait and see. Seems like the best approach in this case, given what we know.
I'll just wait and see. Seems like the best approach in this case, given what we know.
Jonneh3003
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I don't know why there's negativity in a thread full of positive impressions from people who played the game
I need the biggest forehead slap gif in the history of the internet for this.
The_Endgamer
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This. I'll probs buy it, trade it in and buy another copy just to spread the love.
I can't go another 10 years since Corruption. :'(
Vorg
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Watch the treehouse gameplay stream. Castlevania mirror of fate was terrible. This looks amazing.
It really does. Love the way they're handling counters. Now all I need is a Fusion suit unlockable.
I was thinking the same. Also I think there was an article years ago about Mercury developing a Metroid game for WiiU and 3DS. I'm thinking it was originally multi-plat and they doubled down on 3DS. But the result might be a game that at its design level has some scalability. Might mean it wouldn't be too hard to port in the future.
I still don't really understand why they've not made it multiplatform though.
Yeah, Fusion is the best. The controls and speed are perfect (Super=too slow, MZM=too fast), the level design is the best I've seen PERIOD. The atmosphere is amazing, as is the music. Even the scenario is top notch (even if it has been made to look retroactively worse due to Other M copying it, really badly).
I do get the complaints about linearity, but there are still places off the map that you have to find during the course of the story, and the secrets are never given to you.
I would say all of this though, as it's my second favourite game of all time, just behind the original Prime.
I felt so out of touch with some of the reactions yesterday. I was jumping up and down at getting a new 2D Metroid in a couple months and Prime 4 being announced. Also the constant port begging for Switch is getting out of control on GAF between this and Pokemon.
davidwhangchoi
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Metroid is actually happening... i'm still in shock
I think it's quite possible. After all, Mirror of Fate was ported to PS3 and 360.
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Mirror of Fate 's HD port turned out well enough, so I really don't think there's any reason Metroid couldn't come to Switch... Unless it makes heavy use of the dual screen functionality. I haven't watched all the footage yet, but was the second screen used for anything other than the map in Samus Returns?
My biggest issue with fusion besides all the chatter was how they would put a waypoint on the map to show you where to head next. I forget if that was in Zero mission, but I hope it isn't here. The scanning stuff is neither here nor there for me personally. Power bombs did the same thing before more or less, even though it was limited to the room you were in.
Really? Really?
Metroid fans complain nonstop about Nintendo neglecting the series and then when they announce two games, one of which is a traditional 2D game with overwhelmingly positive impressions and excellent-looking footage, some fans dig around to find shit to complain about.
It looked like you swapped between Missiles/Super Missiles and the different Beams on the touch screen.
Magicpaint
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Zero Mission had the Chozo statues that also show you where you should head next. They're similar to the hint systems in Prime (though you could turn those off). I didn't have a big problem with them though as traversal was still fun and knowing where to go didn't necessarily mean you knew how to get through to that area. There were still elements of discovery.
It makes sense within the game since the board computer knows where the danger lies. I haven't played it in a while, but I believe it doesn't show you exactly where to go on the map after a while.
andthebeatgoeson
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Backslapping fools. Hopefully someone gif'd that animation.
Part of why I hate Prime series... scan every single thing to "investigate". The other is the perspective (I'm not really into it's move to first person).
Kamina
Golden Boy
In both Meteoid 2 and Super Metroid the Varia Suit changed the appearence to big shouldered.
However, in Super Meteoid they were cheep with some of the sprites, as the the side view is the same for both Power and Varia suit, just different colors. From the front it's clrealy visible though.
People crying for years for a new/remake 2d metroid or prime.
We get both after years of waiting and people act like douchebags.
Gameplay looks fantastic they showed 30 mins+ do you really think the game will be ruined by Mercury Steam?
And besides if you think it looks too easy i am sure hard mode is back. And you can skip using those new abilities anyway and still sequence break with bombs and possibly more.
We get both after years of waiting and people act like douchebags.
Gameplay looks fantastic they showed 30 mins+ do you really think the game will be ruined by Mercury Steam?
And besides if you think it looks too easy i am sure hard mode is back. And you can skip using those new abilities anyway and still sequence break with bombs and possibly more.
Yeah that's the thing. This series is both precious and fragile, so it's understandable why people are highly sensitive to how it's handled.
Eh, that's probably something you could map to the triggers on the Joycons. Doesn't seem like big deal. Samus Returns might be Switchable after all!
Looks like the second screen is primarily used for the map. I think it also displays tutorial info when you pick up new abilities and such.
Maybe because they're not the same fucking people.
Or maybe because it isn't what some people were expecting. I was expecting something more stilized in the vein of Hollow Knight or Ori, in terms of art. Instead I got these terrible graphics on a 240p screen...
I didn't think that Castlevania would be ruined by Mercury Steam and bought Mirror Of Fate. That was a mistake.
I'm cautiously optimistic about this, but yes, it's extremely understandable why people would sour on this title because of MS' involvement.
Jonneh3003
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We had someone complain about scanning. There's clearly a lot of people just here to complain that it's on 3DS.
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WTF who believes this?
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