Closer yeah, but deliberate contact should be dealt with more severely than a stop and go I reckon
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Closer yeah, but deliberate contact should be dealt with more severely than a stop and go I reckon
It's just as disturbing if its unintentional surely? A four times World Driver's Champion is incapable of controlling their car - on a straight - to the degree that they violently veer into another car?
Vettel CONTINUES to be in denial. More than anything that illustrates why the punishment is insufficient.
Vettel seems to have very selective amnesia
Should have been a +20 for the next race and be done with it
LOL that is not similar.
I think you're absolutely right, I don't think there's a single driver on the grid who would deliberately crash into someone so blatantly. Seb lost his cool, was too focused on gesturing to Lewis and made an error in the process. Idiotic moment but not deliberate.
SEB has always been an asshole.
Vettel just wasted an opportunity to recognize he fucked up and keep going. Once a douche always a douche I guess :/
Ticktum overtook 10 cars under the safety car to catch up with Collard and then speared him off the road at Luffield where there were marshals recovering the cars which had caused the safety car in the first place.
What Vettel did was stupid, but it wasn't anywhere near as serious as what Ticktum did.
You literally can black out memory in moments of rage. I really wonder if that happened or Web is doing a weird act where he's not owning up to at least driving alongside him.
Both Vettel and Hamilton have got priors for causing contact and driving excessively slowly under safety cars.
They should both be looking at bans.
They should both be looking at bans.
Is it so unbelievable that he never recognized the second incident?
Arguably, but they don't apply a "disturbing" test when enforcing the regulations.
The punishment for an intentional act should be more severe than for an "accidental" one.
Will be interesting to see if the stewards explain their thinking in more detail.
I guess not, from his lips.
My summary:
* Shame about VER and his car issues.
* I think BOT was at fault with his hit against RAI. I'd give it a drive-thru.
* I think OCO should've left more space for PER, but wouldn't penalize this. Race incident.
* Not convinced HAM did anything wrong during the SC.
* I'd have black-flagged VET for his reaction though.
* I agree with forcing HAM in to fix his headrest.
* They really need to improve recovery at Baku. More wall gaps, more cranes, better cleaning equipment.
* Shame about VER and his car issues.
* I think BOT was at fault with his hit against RAI. I'd give it a drive-thru.
* I think OCO should've left more space for PER, but wouldn't penalize this. Race incident.
* Not convinced HAM did anything wrong during the SC.
* I'd have black-flagged VET for his reaction though.
* I agree with forcing HAM in to fix his headrest.
* They really need to improve recovery at Baku. More wall gaps, more cranes, better cleaning equipment.
Talking about mature responses
Honestly, probably race of the year so far. Just be ready to fast forward some safety cars and a red flag if you do.
What a mad race. So bad. So good. Not Formula One at its best, but definitely doing bad in entertaining ways.
"Not sure I agree entirely given the nature of the incidents"
Pretty much agree with all this. Marshalling was really poor, should be held to a higher standard.
So to which parts of the comparison do you agree?
The most recent case that I can remember of a driver hitting another deliberately was Maldonado on Hamilton, Belgium 2011. That was a five-place grid drop; bear in mind it's likely to be less severe because it was in qualifying not the race.
I think Vettel should have been black-flagged, personally, but ultimately if Hamilton's headrest hadn't come off it would have probably worked out about right.
I think Vettel should have been black-flagged, personally, but ultimately if Hamilton's headrest hadn't come off it would have probably worked out about right.
Sorry, not going to engage with you
you've been chatting shit the whole race. It's pointless discussing
lol
What are you special snowflake you are. Can't even clearly state what you mean, you are quite the twat.
Ooh, another one to add to the ignore list. Thanks for making it super obvious!
and then there was Schumacher who was stripped his 2nd place result in the WDC.
No, just not going to waste my time when you've already made up your mind and its clearly not based on logic
Not watching Sky, but don't tell me, Ted was blaming Toto for Hamiltons headrest or some shit?
Ok, man baby.
What isn't based on logic? That Vettel's case isn't "similar" to the one of Ticktum.
What are dumb character are you playing?
Why is it pointless for you to explain how the two incidents were similar?
Not quite, but in his questioning looking for someone to blame. Standard Sky bs.
Not quite, was trying to get Toto to name and shame someone for not attaching it properly, Toto not having it.
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