Support NeoGAF

[BooJoh]

SPLATOON 2 IS NOT CAPTURE THE FLAG.
Stop marching into their fucking base and leaving them to take all of our turf.

IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK.

It can work if the person in their base can hold their own. It ends up keeping them distracted by the guy in their base every time they respawn while the rest of his team is working on the rest of the map. You just have to be inking while you're in there and not just trying to spawn camp.

In some maps you can also get into their base and ink the less-convenient parts of their side and sometimes they won't even notice.

 

[random25]

Splash-o-matic is my jam. So good.

 

[Wiseblade]

There's no grand conspiracy behind mayo winning, it's easily explainable looking at common player behaviour:

* most people stop playing in a Splatfest once they reach King/Queen

* with the scores being as lopsided as they are, many Ketchup players will play mostly against their own team, which doesn't count towards the Splatfest.

So good Ketchup players are only playing against Mayo half the time, good Mayo players are almost always paired up against Team Ketchup.

 

[deoee]

There's no grand conspiracy behind mayo winning, it's easily explainable looking at common player behaviour:

* most people stop playing in a Splatfest once they reach King/Queen

* with the scores being as lopsided as they are, many Ketchup players will play mostly against their own team, which doesn't count towards the Splatfest.

So good Ketchup players are only playing against Mayo half the time, good Mayo players are almost always paired up against Team Ketchup.

NVM I misunterstood your post

 

[Duffk1ng]

There's no grand conspiracy behind mayo winning, it's easily explainable looking at common player behaviour:

* most people stop playing in a Splatfest once they reach King/Queen

* with the scores being as lopsided as they are, many Ketchup players will play mostly against their own team, which doesn't count towards the Splatfest.

So good Ketchup players are only playing against Mayo half the time, good Mayo players are almost always paired up against Team Ketchup.

This sounds about right. I doubt the actual skill distribution amongst the two teams is actually particularly different. It shouldn't be, anyway. Unless there was some grand conspiracy among top players to pick Mayo that none of us knew about.

Not true in EU where I had only two Mayo vs Mayo matches in ~3-4h yesterday

Either I'm misreading a post or you have; I'm pretty sure that's what they're already saying - Mayo are less likely to end up in a game against themselves.

 

[Busaiku]

America has failed.

 

[deoee]

 

[Zafir]

I'm not convinced Ketchup will win in Europe either.

I won the majority of my matches versus Mayo, but judging from what others were saying, I feel like I'm in the minority in that. xD

Most of the best teams I played were Ketchup mirror matches, but if everyones playing mirror matches, they're not winning matches for the splatfest.

 

[XaosWolf]

It can work if the person in their base can hold their own. It ends up keeping them distracted by the guy in their base every time they respawn while the rest of his team is working on the rest of the map. You just have to be inking while you're in there and not just trying to spawn camp.

In some maps you can also get into their base and ink the less-convenient parts of their side and sometimes they won't even notice.

Oh I know an infiltrator/nuisance can work.
But too often do I see the entire team just rush the enemy base whilst the enemt rushes our, but we end up just swapping bases (and they dye) leaving us having to ink the entire map instead of just half.

Not to mention the times where theres one guy flanking them and keeping them busy only to have an idiot teammate superjump to him so ut puts up a giant "ENEMY HERE" sign for them to aim at and kill 2 teammates at once.

This Splatfest map has been easy to judge if we'd win or not just from how they deal with an enemy rush. If they go round the enemy team and into their base then I know we'll lose because we didn't break the enemy charge. If we took care of them they'd have to go back and ink their spawn whilst we take the middle ground.

It also happens all the time on Moray Towers and Humpback Pumptrack. The middle ground is ALWAYS important. HP partucularly because you have a full view if enemy movements so you can head them off.

 

[Fix-It Felix. Jr.]

SPLATOON 2 IS NOT CAPTURE THE FLAG.
Stop marching into their fucking base and leaving them to take all of our turf.

IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK.

I do this quite often, and it seems to work a lot. I've had times when I've covered the entire enemy spawn, and they just continued to superjump to God knows where. Games have ended with them having some middle ground, but both spawns were my team, which lead us to a win.

Of course, this isn't a viable tactic for all matches - you have to be able to read the enemy team and predict how they will respond. I have a high mobility set-up, so I can escape quickly or put up a distraction if I get busted at their base.

re: post above - yeah, if everyone on the team just follows suit and goes to the enemy base, then that won't work at all. Which also happen a lot, lmao. You'd think that with being able to see the entire map before a superjump that people would put a little more thought into where they are actually needed.

 

[Cynosure]

Mayo won????

 

[Mistouze]

Mayo won in Japan and America ? Good.

Now I hope Europe won't let me down. 2 hours left to win matches for mayo's honor.

 

[XaosWolf]

I do this quite often, and it seems to work a lot. I've had times when I've covered the entire enemy spawn, and they just continued to superjump to God knows where. Games have ended with them having some middle ground, but both spawns were my team, which lead us to a win.

Of course, this isn't a viable tactic for all matches - you have to be able to read the enemy team and predict how they will respond. I have a high mobility set-up, so I can escape quickly or put up a distraction if I get busted at their base.

I meant as a group. Infiltrators (provided teammates dont superjump to you and fuck it up) work pretty well if theres an opening.

 

[Jeff Vader]

Been working on this build for a while and it finally happened.

The jacket took so long to get at least 2 ink saver mains from unlocking by scrubbing. The hat actually got its anti-brand bias so that's some luck (and more chunk farming) and the shoes are also Anniezon exclusive with their brand bias subs.

 

[nubbe]

If you don't control the center in the Tower, Humpback, or any map.. you'll lose

 

[tonyh24613]

There's no grand conspiracy behind mayo winning, it's easily explainable looking at common player behaviour:

* most people stop playing in a Splatfest once they reach King/Queen

* with the scores being as lopsided as they are, many Ketchup players will play mostly against their own team, which doesn't count towards the Splatfest.

So good Ketchup players are only playing against Mayo half the time, good Mayo players are almost always paired up against Team Ketchup.

The bold part wont affect winning rate due to the fest power system. Since Nintendo introduced the system in Splatoon1 the highest winning rate is 55% in SpongeBob splatfest, other results were 51% or 52%. The chance of winning solo/team is always 50% with some noise now, which means teams with higher popularity has 75% chance to win the fest. NA ketchup is just that unfortunate 25%.

 

[Warnen]

There's no grand conspiracy behind mayo winning, it's easily explainable looking at common player behaviour:

* most people stop playing in a Splatfest once they reach King/Queen

* with the scores being as lopsided as they are, many Ketchup players will play mostly against their own team, which doesn't count towards the Splatfest.

So good Ketchup players are only playing against Mayo half the time, good Mayo players are almost always paired up against Team Ketchup.

I was on mayo team and played other mayo member 2/5 times

 

[BitStyle]

Wake up to see mayo won.

Splatfests were a mistake

 

[Doosi]

when does the splatfest in europe end?

 

[Koren]

Its beautiful when people utilise the ink armour I give them. Makes me feel good. =)

How do you use it efficiently?

 

[Godzilla's Left Toe]

Wake up to see mayo won.

Splatfests were a mistake

Hopefully next splatfests is a bit less gross.

 

[Zafir]

when does the splatfest in europe end?

In 2 hours.

 

[Dark Cloud]

Been working on this build for a while and it finally happened.

The jacket took so long to get at least 2 ink saver mains from unlocking by scrubbing. The hat actually got its anti-brand bias so that's some luck (and more chunk farming) and the shoes are also Anniezon exclusive with their brand bias subs.

Do you get some kind of bonus by having the same three small abilities on a piece of gear? You're the second person I've seen done this.

 

[Frimaire]

Welp, I'm going to bed.
Don't fuck this up, Europe; we could be living in a Mayo world in a couple of hours...

 

[XaosWolf]

How do you use it efficiently?

Use it whenever you or your team mates are about to hit a firefight

 

[Godzilla's Left Toe]

Welp, I'm going to bed.
Don't fuck this up, Europe; we could be living in a Mayo world in a couple of hours...

Mayo is going to win dark times we are living in.

 

[Koren]

The bold part wont affect winning rate due to the fest power system. Since Nintendo introduced the system in Splatoon1 the highest winning rate is 55% in SpongeBob splatfest, other results were 51% or 52%. The chance of winning solo/team is always 50% with some noise now, which means teams with higher popularity has 75% chance to win the fest.

Not true... If the average win is 51% for the less popular pick with a 1% standard deviation (assuming a gaussian law), you'll see almost only 51-49, 52-48 and 50-50, but the less popular team will still win the festival more than 2 times out of three (and win solo (resp. team) 84% of the time).

Since the results show the standard deviation is low, it's awfully tricky to estimate the chances the more popular team will win.

 

[Deleted member 231381]

The matchmaking for this was atrocious. My ketchup-ketchup matches outnumbered my ketchup-mayo matches by about 5:2.

 

[XaosWolf]

Dropped past tge 2000 power meter and steadily decreasing due to team stupidity.

I fucking hate the splatfest map now.

 

[Deleted member 125677]

The matchmaking for this was atrocious. My ketchup-ketchup matches outnumbered my ketchup-mayo matches by about 5:2.

why the fuck are you on team ketchup

you're an educated man

 

[Branduil]

why the fuck are you on team ketchup

you're an educated man

You answered your own question.

 

[nubbe]

The matchmaking for this was atrocious. My ketchup-ketchup matches outnumbered my ketchup-mayo matches by about 5:2.

Play the underdog if you want to have fun

 

[XaosWolf]

Yeah okay. Just got blown up by an invisible Autobomb.

 

[zeemumu]

Wake up to see mayo won.

Splatfests were a mistake

But Mayo lost the popular vote. Clearly the US has learned nothing

 

[tonyh24613]

Not true... If the average win is 51% for the less popular pick with a 1% standard deviation (assuming a gaussian law), you'll see almost only 51-49, 52-48 and 50-50, but the less popular team will still win the festival more than 2 times out of three (and win solo (resp. team) 84% of the time).

Since the results show the standard deviation is low, it's awfully tricky to estimate the chances the more popular team will win.

That's what I'm arguing, good ketchup player will be matched with good mayo player by the power system. If the system can't find a Mayo team with close power it can always pair them with another ketchup team, which wont affect the result. I don't think we can assume the average win is 51% or 52%.

 

[Warnen]

So many ketchup apologist in this thread. While we Mayo Kings and Queens sustained our selves on Protein, vitamin E and omega 3/6. You common rabble feasted on sugar and salt and put yourselves into a sleepy time comma.


You were so sure the win was yours you didn't think about what it be like to loose...

Your hubris handed us this victory, and I for one, Thank you.






all kidding aside, surprised Mayo won the matches in US. Wasn't on the count of me most of my matches were lopped sided in ketchup favor, even if we came close to wining some of them hard to over come 3v4

 

[Branduil]

I think instead of the categories being solo and team matches, they should combine those results together and make the categories "Win/Loss percentage" and "Total paint coverage." That makes more sense than weighing an incredibly small number of games as 1/3 of the total.

 

[True Fire]

Wait, Mayo won? Hell yeah!

Contextually I understand why. All but one of my matches were against Ketchup. I quickly got to Mayo Queen and stopped playing—less of an opportunity for Ketchup to catch up.

 

[BGBW]

People who are 100% either ketchup or mayo are losers either way.

Those who can enjoy both based of what the situation requires are the true winners.

 

[buttdiver]

why the fuck are you on team ketchup

you're an educated man

Mayo is for heathens and old ppl

 

[Jintor]

Wait, Mayo won? Hell yeah!

Contextually I understand why. All but one of my matches were against Ketchup. I quickly got to Mayo Queen and stopped playing—less of an opportunity for Ketchup to catch up.

absolutely disgusting

 

[Duffk1ng]

If the lines of favourites are as clearly drawn in the next one I'm definitely waiting to see which is more popular so I can join the less popular one. Just for the quicker matchmaking.

 

[saturnine]

this looks nasty but ive heard mayo tastes different in Europe compared to the American stuff which is basically lubrication for bread. can anyone whos had both describe the difference?

Yeah. French mayo has mustard, vinegar, salt and pepper. (e/ and don't forget the lemon)

 

[Tecnniqe]

So many ketchup apologist in this thread. While we Mayo Kings and Queens sustained our selves on Protein, vitamin E and omega 3/6. You common rabble feasted on sugar and salt and put yourselves into a sleepy time comma.


You were so sure the win was yours you didn't think about what it be like to loose...

Your hubris handed us this victory, and I for one, Thank you.






all kidding aside, surprised Mayo won the matches in US. Wasn't on the count of me most of my matches were lopped sided in ketchup favor, even if we came close to wining some of them hard to over come 3v4

I, for one, praise our salt and sugary overlords.

 

[True Fire]

People who are 100% either ketchup or mayo are losers either way.

Those who can enjoy both based of what the situation requires are the true winners.

Ketchup is like 25% sugar. If you eat it at lunch and supper you'll hit your daily sugar intake, and that's not counting cereal (mostly sugar), "juice" (mostly sugar), snacks (mostly sugar), and dessert.

Yeah, I'm clearly biased against Ketchup. You can tell why I didn't choose it for the Splatfest lol.

 

[XaosWolf]

Please don't push forward in the last 30 seconds unless you have checked the map and ensured there's noone thats gotten past us.

There is zero point in risking the match. Just hold your ground and advance carefully if at all.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

this post makes no sense. if all pros choose one side to play against other pros then they're would be 2 scenarios:

they dont play against other pros because just one team has pros. so... pointless
they play against the same team, which doesnt count in the splatfest

No, the pros are all on one side facing off against a team that is gonna be divisive of pros, new players, and casuals aka a mess.

Next splatfest I'm gonna choose the least popular side to see what happens.

 

[deoee]

People who are 100% either ketchup or mayo are losers either way.

Those who can enjoy both based of what the situation requires are the true winners.

Ketchup is just unhealthy and sweet stuff that does not really fit the food I eat.

 

[TheJoRu]

Ok, I'm done. Went 20-11 in favor of Ketchup. Could've performed better, but I've contributed to the good cause.

 

[Craft]

Anyone wanna join our game, just need one more for a group https://lounge.nintendo.com/room/CvcP2NBWQB