Very Berry Sunday
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When are the iPhone 8 going to be available to order, or did I miss that?
Apple September Event 2017 |OT| A Top-Notch Keynote
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Going from 7-10 just like that? Maybe something in between. So 8.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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No, I'm asking unlocked not full price. Unlocked is different that's why it has its own listing for the others.
LyleLanley
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Wireless chargining
serenewarfare
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It's the same Airpods as last year.
Just a new case for them. They are going to sell the case separately.
Martinski43
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_/¯CliqWriter
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Another person going from 6s to 8s+
I just can't pay more than 1000 for a beautiful phone.
I just can't pay more than 1000 for a beautiful phone.
Sheesh, that's disappointing. Any info on the price for that case?
Daffy Duck
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Does the 8 have Touch ID?
Auron_Kale
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Just catching up with everything but I'd be one of those people jumping to an 8+ over the 7+ or X. Currently coming from a 6S+ (which is still going strong with zero issues) and I would rather just have the new tech in the 8/8+ over the 7/7+ and I can't afford the X (nor do I want to actually give up TouchID to FaceID).
Raitosaito
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What Apple doesn't tell everyone is the Verizon full price model is completely unlocked for all GSM and CDMA carriers.
Even on payments the Verizon model is pre unlocked.
The Verge is wrong and doesn't know what they are talking about, as they often do not. You can see the error Craig got in the very article - that's not the one you'd get after a restart.
Auron_Kale
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Yes.
Well the 8 is really the 7s.
I think I am getting an 8, although all it really has over the 7 is wireless charging.
serenewarfare
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None yet. It's probably not coming until they release their wireless charging mat next year.
Wowfunhappy
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In addition to this, there's just no way Apple would have made such a simple oversight in planning sessions. They had every bit of the presentation scripted to a T.
The hardware screwed up.
Only EE provides the cellular sim for it. Sadness.
Unless there's a way to unlock it and use different providers? I don't think you can do that. :/
serenewarfare
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EmilioLargo
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And HDR/Dolby Vision Support
Daffy Duck
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Think I'll just get an 8 then as an upgrade over my 6S, I love Touch ID.
Zeyphersan
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As of right now if you break or lose the current case its $69 for another one at the Genius Bar. So Im gonna guess a little bit more than that
There is no message if your Touch ID is wrong after a few times.
It just brings up the passcode screen like normal.
The message says specifically it's required for to Enable Touch ID.
I get that message now and then randomly (like I haven't used it for a long period on my iPad).
Not just a restart which is a slightly different message but effectively the same thing.
serenewarfare
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I thought that was only the X?
PeakPointMatrix
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Did you miss the part where a period of inactivity requires the passcode to be reentered as a security measure?
I own a 6S+, and the only thing I could see myself buying is the X.
7 is just a waterproof 6S. Not worth spending $500+ on.
8 is just a 7 with wireless charging. Not worth spending $700 on.
Nope. If you do Touch ID wrong just once, then you get "Try again." If you keep doing it several times with a finger that's not registered, you get "Your passcode is required to enable Touch ID", just like that demo. The restart message specifically says "Touch ID requires your passcode after your iPhone restarts." Just tested and confirmed using my 6S Plus with the iOS 11 GM.
This would only be possible if no one had face-unlocked the demo phone in the past 48 hours, or hadn't entered the passcode at all in the past week.
EmilioLargo
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Not according to https://www.apple.com/iphone-8/specs/. It is listed under video playback.
Isnt the X $300 more than the 8?
I tested it on my iPad and if you leave it alone for a while, "Your passcode is required to enable Touch ID" is the message I get.
LyleLanley
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You get the "Your passcode is required to enable Touch ID" for multiple reasons not necessarily related to an issue with Touch ID. I just got it for upgrading to the latest version of iOS 11.
Apparently it's just a new wireless charging compatible case coming out next year, but no price yet.
SuperEpicMan
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I'm a huge fan of Apple, but I feel this keynote was a little disappointing. The X looks great, but I can't help but feel it is a little undercooked and overpriced. It really seems like it is plagued with ill thought out things which need further refinement, for instance:
What has happened to reachability?
Why have they put notifications and control centre up in the top corners? (goodbye one hand use)
Why did they let the notch cut into videos and apps?
And so on.
Don't get me wrong, much of the hardware looks great. But I really think iOS needs to serious reinvention to better reflect the hardware and screen size.
Personally, watching this convinced me to just keep my 7. If it really blew me a way, I might have thought about upgrading early, but instead I might just wait till next year.
Everything else also felt a little lacklustre. For instance:
Whats the deal with Space Grey coming back.
Where is the dark mode.
How come I can't get a non cellular stainless steel watch.
For me I will probably upgrade my Apple Watch since I have had mine from launch. The series 3 doesn't look like a huge jump over the 2, but it should be a nice jump from mine.
What has happened to reachability?
Why have they put notifications and control centre up in the top corners? (goodbye one hand use)
Why did they let the notch cut into videos and apps?
And so on.
Don't get me wrong, much of the hardware looks great. But I really think iOS needs to serious reinvention to better reflect the hardware and screen size.
Personally, watching this convinced me to just keep my 7. If it really blew me a way, I might have thought about upgrading early, but instead I might just wait till next year.
Everything else also felt a little lacklustre. For instance:
Whats the deal with Space Grey coming back.
Where is the dark mode.
How come I can't get a non cellular stainless steel watch.
For me I will probably upgrade my Apple Watch since I have had mine from launch. The series 3 doesn't look like a huge jump over the 2, but it should be a nice jump from mine.
8 Plus is $799. X is $999.
I tend to compare the X to the 8 Plus, since the X has a Plus-sized screen.
Slick Butter
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So no Apple Pencil on the X? Still 60Hz?
Seems like anyone would just get the 8/8+. That's what I'll probably do. 4S, 5c, 6+, now 8+.
Haven't seen much a reason to upgrade from the 6+ but I liked what they started doing with the cameras on the 7+.
New SoC sounds really great though.
Can you have a cellular Apple Watch independent of having an iPhone?
Seems like anyone would just get the 8/8+. That's what I'll probably do. 4S, 5c, 6+, now 8+.
Haven't seen much a reason to upgrade from the 6+ but I liked what they started doing with the cameras on the 7+.
New SoC sounds really great though.
Can you have a cellular Apple Watch independent of having an iPhone?
Unless we are to believe no had touched this demo phone for between 48 hours to a week prior to this demo, or had just upgraded the iPhone without anyone testing it out afterwards, neither of those scenarios would apply.
The simplest explanation is just that it happened to not work. Like, yes, there are other reasons that error can appear - but they all would require a level of incompetency from Apple that isn't in line with how ridiculously rehearsed and scripted these demos are.
Doing this brings up the same message: http://www.redmondpie.com/disable-touch-id-in-ios-11-iphone-quickly-without-reboot-heres-how/
Zaraki_Kenpachi
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Are you sure? People in the iPhone it said it changes year to year with which one is like that.
Just pointing out that it MAY not be because of FaceID that you seem so adamant about.
LyleLanley
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You're most likely right but it was a demo on a pre-release device using beta software and every other attempt during that demo and all the other hands on videos I've seen so far had it working perfectly so I'm inclined to believe it was just a simple bug.
It's technically possible, but all the alternative explanations are way less likely than "it just happened to fuck up" to the point where I think some people should probably stop and ask themselves why they are arguing so hard to show it may not have been.
Like, I'm not even trying to argue FaceID is gonna be a big failure or anything, I just think it happened to not work on that one demo.