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[Racer!]

Sure it's digging a grave.

The PS3 era was Sony's worst financials for their gaming division.

Sony didn't subsidize gamers with PS4 and still sold a ton and financials have been the best ever.

So why rock the boat with PS5 console losses?

Because the landscape now is completely different. Do you honestly think this is as easy as doing the same thing over and over? That they found some kind of blueprint for launcing successful console generations forever. If it were that easy the world would sure be a wonderful place.

The PS3 era was Sonys worst financials for sooo many reasons. This launch needs to be PS3 launch done right. They need hardware that outshines the competition in areas that matter....something the PS3 never had.

 

[sneas78]

Ohh nooo.

 

[Entroyp]

Ohh nooo.

I'm not surprised and I hope this gets further confirmed so that some here are brought down to earth

 

[Entroyp]

Haven't kept up..... what did asstard Matt say on Reeeee which showed he was BS'ing being an insider?

Why is the guy an asstard? Not very familiar with him

 

[demigod]

There's more for you to add .

 

[quest]

I'm not surprised and I hope this gets further confirmed so that some here are brought down to earth

It's bullcrap if they are us the next gen rdna TMUs and tweaked CUs for ray tracing they are basically next gen rdna or rdna2 just a custom version. Its semantics at this point.

 

[SportsFan581]

I'm not surprised and I hope this gets further confirmed so that some here are brought down to earth

Not really news, people say RDNA 2 but are talking about RT and some curated features from the RDNA 2 roadmap.

 

[quest]

PS3 loss was devastating because it was so high but I think they'd take upwards to a $100 loss if pushed just not more than that.

The PS3 loss was deviating because not only because it was high it benefited home theater enthusiasts more than anyone not gamers. I think they could lose 150 usd per at launch and be fine this time because it is all to benefit gamers and lead to more sales. The PS3 they tossed the game division under the bus to.win a media format war.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Why is the guy an asstard? Not very familiar with him

I'd like to know as well. Not seen Matt be rude or aggressive to anyone apart from his last post so wonder why some here are labeling him 'asstard' and the like.

 

[vpance]

Ohh nooo.

Explains OsirisBlack XSX worse RT than PS5 hint.

Sony may have a real leg up on XSX in terms of production costs if they're on 7nm+ while MS is on 7nm.

 

[JORMBO]

For those of us that don't follow internet celebrities...who exactly is this "Matt" fellow?

 

[vivftp]

For those of us that don't follow internet celebrities...who exactly is this "Matt" fellow?

History in the Making

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www.npd.com

 

[quest]

I'd like to know as well. Not seen Matt be rude or aggressive to anyone apart from his last post so wonder why some here are labeling him 'asstard' and the like.

People always looking for a reason to tear down people who are in the spotlight. It could be for anything little statement. He was probably a little frustrated and should of walked away but we all make mistakes.

 

[XcloudTimdog]

Actually January on Reddit.

The only new info that came to me in the past two months is 56CUs for Arden. I already knew every else since two months ago.

Beast

 

[Proelite]

Beast

I got dragged on to the RDNA2/7nm+ train by accident due to insiders. Good thing I was 50/50 on it in public. Never again!

 

[Self_Destructive]

History in the Making

Trace the evolution of Circana from IRI and NPD's rich histories. Understand how our combined legacy shapes our leading market and consumer analytics services.

www.npd.com

That's not the same person.

 

[vivftp]

That's not the same person.

Yes, it is.

 

[XcloudTimdog]

I got dragged on to the RDNA2/7nm+ train by accident due to insiders. Good thing I was 50/50 on it in public. Never again!

Im curious as hell what they are doing but i do put faith into hmq guy. You def know your stuff tho.

 

[JORMBO]

History in the Making

Trace the evolution of Circana from IRI and NPD's rich histories. Understand how our combined legacy shapes our leading market and consumer analytics services.

www.npd.com

I've heard of this guy. I thought he went by his full name on Era and left the site a few months back?

 

[Norse]

The flow of this thread changes far too often. People attacking others over rumors,leaks,etc. Nothing is confirmed and yet it makes no difference. I just wish gaf would ban some of you guys. Your posts are nothing more than personal attacks. You know who you are so no need to point ya out. Mods need to clean house a bit in here. To the rest of you, enjoy yourselves and think about what you're all discussing here.

 

[McHuj]

For those of us that don't follow internet celebrities...who exactly is this "Matt" fellow?

Mod from Reeeeeer (and formerly here), he has a cult following as an insider, yet has never leaked anything nor said anything non-obvious about any console. Always vague statements.

 

[Clintizzle]

Next-Gen PS5 & Next Xbox |OT| Confirmation Bias/10

 

[Self_Destructive]

Yes, it is.

No it isn't. Mat from NPD is not Matt the mod from ERA.

 

[XcloudTimdog]

Mod from Reeeeeer (and formerly here), he has a cult following as an insider, yet has never leaked anything nor said anything non-obvious about any console. Always vague statements.

Matts been on target with stuff before, but also said stuff like devs got more out of ps4 cpu than Xbox which wasnt the case. I think Matts just trying to restore order over there, lot of ppl are sniping and getting @ each other instead of having nice convo.

 

[Proelite]

Im curious as hell what they are doing but i do put faith into hmq guy. You def know your stuff tho.

Actually hmqgg and I were in agreement for RDNA2 until recently. .

The only thing left for Xsx to confirm is latest ram amount and bw.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Mod from Reeeeeer (and formerly here), he has a cult following as an insider, yet has never leaked anything nor said anything non-obvious about any console. Always vague statements.

I'm an insider too.

My prediction is PS5 and Series X will be 9 to 12TF each.

Both will have 16-20gb gddr6 ram

1tb SSD

CPU clocks of 1.7 to 2 ghz

Here's another leak I'll toss in nobody has done yet. At least one of the console makers will pack in a digital game or have a bundle box at launch too.

 

[XcloudTimdog]

Actually hmqgg and I were in agreement for RDNA2 until recently. .

The only thing left for Xsx to confirm is latest ram amount and bw.

He did verify that the repo leak was legitimate which i found interesting. 56cu seems the way to 12

 

[TLZ]

And people took him seriously as an insider with all the specs.
Please.

This AMD internal testing leaks really caught the so called insiders pants down.

What is wrong with what he's saying?

 

[vivftp]

No it isn't. Mat from NPD is not Matt the mod from ERA.

My apologies, you are correct. I honestly thought he was, likely because someone else had mentioned they were the same person and I ran with that idea.

Sorry!

 

[Hawking Radiation]

What is wrong with what he's saying?

Low effort posts mate. Dont bother responding to those. You wont get an answer.

The quality of posts in this thread is sometimes shocking and worth being ignored.

 

[Proelite]

He did verify that the repo leak was legitimate which i found interesting. 56cu seems the way to 12

No comment.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

No comment.

Something tells me you know something but I wont pester your for it.

 

[Self_Destructive]

My apologies, you are correct. I honestly thought he was, likely because someone else had mentioned they were the same person and I ran with that idea.

Sorry!

No worries.. it's a completely understandable honest mistake. I just thought it should be clear so that the wrong person doesn't end up receiving any unnecessary comments from people

All good

 

[Primordialform]

Matt on ERA saying that the github stuff isn't a confirmation...

12-14TF PS5 still on the table.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Matt on ERA saying that the github stuff isn't a confirmation...

12-14TF PS5 still on the table.

Can't wait to see where the dust settles for insider accuracy olympics.

You got some leaks saying PS5 is around 9TF, then you got some at 12-14TF.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Matt on ERA saying that the github stuff isn't a confirmation...

12-14TF PS5 still on the table.

Possible the github leak is of an early low speed PS5 devkit (as mentioned in the Wired article).
Final devkit may be in developers hands now and a reason for why everything has been tight lipped regarding the final hardware until reveal time in less than 2 months.

 

[Ovech-King]

I'm an insider too.

My prediction is PS5 and Series X will be 9 to 12TF each.

Both will have 16-20gb gddr6 ram

1tb SSD

CPU clocks of 1.7 to 2 ghz

Here's another leak I'll toss in nobody has done yet. At least one of the console makers will pack in a digital game or have a bundle box at launch too.

Hmmm, have you been vetted first by the board of logics , son ???

 

[vivftp]

No worries.. it's a completely understandable honest mistake. I just thought it should be clear so that the wrong person doesn't end up receiving any unnecessary comments from people

All good

lol, I can picture Piscatella receiving dozens of messages on social media asking about next gen all of a sudden and he has no frigging clue wtf is happening

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Hmmm, have you been vetted first by the board of logics , son ???

lol.

Like the others, prove me wrong!

And if my predictions are off, I claim Sony and MS changed the final specs at that last minute and my source gave me old info.

That's how you cover your ass, while still claiming victory.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Can't wait to see where the dust settles for insider accuracy olympics.

You got some leaks saying PS5 is around 9TF, then you got some at 12-14TF.

All the insiders have said +10 TF. The github leaks is not the final PS5 chip. I'd bet my salary on that.
All that was revealed in the Github leak is probably the backwards compatibility clock speeds.
When you have one person claiming 9TF, then its perhaps questionable. But many have posted or hinted at +10TF for a while now with a slight edge to PS5.

 

[Ovech-King]

lol.

Like the others, prove me wrong!

And if my predictions are off, I claim Sony and MS changed the final specs at that last minute and my source gave me old info.

That's how you cover your ass, while still claiming victory.

I was sarcastic

 

[Mass Shift]

I'm not surprised and I hope this gets further confirmed so that some here are brought down to earth

Arden has RT and VRS though. It may have RDNA+

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I was sarcastic

I know. Me too.

 

[Self_Destructive]

lol, I can picture Piscatella receiving dozens of messages on social media asking about next gen all of a sudden and he has no frigging clue wtf is happening

Indeed LOL

 

[StreetsofBeige]

All the insiders have said +10 TF. The github leaks is not the final PS5 chip. I'd bet my salary on that.
All that was revealed in the Github leak is probably the backwards compatibility clock speeds.
When you have one person claiming 9TF, then its perhaps questionable. But many have posted or hinted at +10TF for a while now with a slight edge to PS5.

When Xbox X is already at 6tf, it's no stretch to guess PS5 and Scarlett will be 10+.

So when both systems come out in 2020 at let's say 11TF (for sake of argument), It's like predicting PS6 and Series Y mid gen systems around 2023-2024 will be be 16+tf.

 

[demigod]

I'm an insider too.

My prediction is PS5 and Series X will be 9 to 12TF each.

Both will have 16-20gb gddr6 ram

1tb SSD

CPU clocks of 1.7 to 2 ghz

Here's another leak I'll toss in nobody has done yet. At least one of the console makers will pack in a digital game or have a bundle box at launch too.

What a terrible leak. You can bet your candyass that MS will pack in 3 months of Gamepass.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

What a terrible leak. You can bet your candyass that MS will pack in 3 months of Gamepass.

I guess you're an insider too. Join the club!

I haven't seen one leaker mention sub plan pack ins.

 

[DeepEnigma]

He's not wrong tho.

 

[Rightisright]

I'm an insider too.

My prediction is PS5 and Series X will be 9 to 12TF each.

Both will have 16-20gb gddr6 ram

1tb SSD

CPU clocks of 1.7 to 2 ghz

Here's another leak I'll toss in nobody has done yet. At least one of the console makers will pack in a digital game or have a bundle box at launch too.

Holly shit balls. Get over to Era ASAP. With that level of guessing, oops I mean inside knowedge, you can be put on a pedestal with the protected classes.

 

[Mod of War]

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