gaming_noob
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Writing is on the wall. Can't wait to play Last of Us 2 on my PC. Don't believe Sony's latest damage control. It's coming.
Horizon: Zero Dawn confirmed for PC
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Psykodad
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At least someone else who's been paying attention.
I don't see this as a bad thing, nor is it a sign that Sony is going to do what MS is doing.
Blond
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Ah. Promotional video? Okay.
Nope. Once again, you're pretty dense.
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Kenpachii
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I would call it more like mentally ill.
Rhazer Fusion
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I see.
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molasar
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One of the first examples of it is Predator: Hunting Grounds.
Neofire
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Dayum lol talk about extreme, I imagine this has people that are invested in the platform feeling some type of way but this is way too much. Someone needs to make sure this guy isn't suicidal lol. The pc enthusiast are going in on his behind too.
With that being said, I'm going to treat this decision just like my attitude is with gamepass. When or if the bottom drops out(that's if this becomes the norm, which I think it will be) , I don't want any developer asking why the Playstations fan base isn't supporting the platform like they used to.
The dev responding to the crazy dude needs to give that "more people can play the game" rhetoric a rest though. Why not put it on every platform if that's the case but we all know their purpose for this is purely monetary while trying to save face.
Agreed. This is exactly how I read the message as well.
Kenpachii
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More ports will only keep coming next gen with consoles finally using PC architectures that are completely the same. Free money.
And about the idea that maybe it will steam up some PC players to buy a PS5 with there new game on it. That could be the case, but it could also mean people will stay away from PS5 entirely because the game will hit PC with the actual definitive edition eventually. So its a double sworded edge on that front.
I think it has more to do with the fact that PS5 will have PS4 BC which could hurt the double dipping market, with releasing a PC version they will dig that market up again.
And about the idea that maybe it will steam up some PC players to buy a PS5 with there new game on it. That could be the case, but it could also mean people will stay away from PS5 entirely because the game will hit PC with the actual definitive edition eventually. So its a double sworded edge on that front.
I think it has more to do with the fact that PS5 will have PS4 BC which could hurt the double dipping market, with releasing a PC version they will dig that market up again.
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it_wasn't_me
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I can totally see that in a couple of years all PS5 exclusive games will come day one to PC.
It's free money, why not? And it's only a handful of games. And these games are freaking expensive.
How many years has Dreams been in development? 5 years? And then lower than 1500 copies sold in Japan at the beginning.
You really can't justify the costs with this.
But releasing them on PS5 and PC will help to justify the costs for those games.
It's free money, why not? And it's only a handful of games. And these games are freaking expensive.
How many years has Dreams been in development? 5 years? And then lower than 1500 copies sold in Japan at the beginning.
You really can't justify the costs with this.
But releasing them on PS5 and PC will help to justify the costs for those games.
Poor kid though.
Two hours prior his meltdown and the confirmation of horizon coming to PC he tweeted this:
SuperLupeRap
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You're naive if you think that Sony will be waiting 3 years to release their future exclusives on PC. 1 year max, bet on 6 months. Everyone' knows already that PC and consoles are 2 different markets and not directly in competition.
Psykodad
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OT, but MmDreamQueen has 360+K followers, so acting like those 1500 sales are a sign of a flop is a stretch.
Safe assumption would be to say that Dreams likely sold at least round 200K, incl Early Access.
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RokkanStoned
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I would buy Bloodborne PC on day 1. Nice to see Sony dipping their toes in publishing their titles later on PC. It's not like someone's gonna wait 4 years for a title to come to PC. If they want to play, they'll buy it near release. Otherwise they could just as well wait until it can be emulated on PC.
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Bloodborne on PC is really all I could ever want from Sony.
GymWolf
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Nothing against casuals, but combat system in general, really shine at hardest difficulty.
Like i said, the best combat systems of this gen are easy piss crap on normal, but they become different game at the hardest difficulty.
Take a look at dmc5 on normal and on hard, 2 different games.
I can't take seriously a comment about a combat system when you play on a difficulty level where ALL the combat systems are shit easy or lose all the deepness they have, it's like talking about sex with a guy that only fucked a sex doll.
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StreetsofBeige
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No doubt Dreams will be the next Sony game going to PC. I think there was even a rumour about it.
the sales are dead and PC is easily the best platform for community creations and games like this that seem way better to play using a m/kb
LittleBigGamer
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He said the difference is overrated.Which is true regarding what the average gamer prefers and buys. You post is more hilarious, because you didn't even read what he wrote.
Also the 60/120 difference is a joke for the most gamers out there. Neogaf and internet is not the reference.
PS. Stop laughing at posts you can't have an answer. It's not funny any more.
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Faenrir
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So glad for this. There's no other game on PS4 i wanted to play so it didn't really make sense to buy one.
PC has lots of users (94+ M active users on Steam alone) so it makes sense, imo.
Win/win, PS4 got a lot of sales from it but now that PS5 is around the corner, just releasing the game on PC is a great idea...
PC has lots of users (94+ M active users on Steam alone) so it makes sense, imo.
Win/win, PS4 got a lot of sales from it but now that PS5 is around the corner, just releasing the game on PC is a great idea...
alabtrosMyster
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WoW... I imagine this is is his parent's basement or something.
Like I have some doubt behind the decision (I wonder what kind of analysis they did, and did they really consider all possible outcomes or side effects - like some nerd throwing a tantrum?)... But if there are benefits to this we all might benefit.
What worries me most is that Sony could become just another Activision/EA/UbiSoft like publisher because they won't use their games to push the PS platform as they did before.
alabtrosMyster
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This is easy to say when "the average gamer" is either not given the choice or is offered 30fps games (with a couple of games targeting 60) on consoles... and for all we know those who have the most friends here are those who say 30fps is fine (at least there are not that many who say we cannot see more than 24/30fps anymore).
yurinka
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It's true, if we look at sales, 3rd party multi games are in all platforms the biggest portion of total sales. Games like CoD, GTA, FIFA, Minecraft, Fortnite have a bigger impact than the exclusive ones, specially compared to the ones that aren't the top selling exclusives.
There are many reasons that make someone to buy a console like price, horsepower, ease of use, friends having the same one, etc. And one of them is games, mostly multis, but also exclusives. When all the other factors are more or less the same, the main difference between let's say Xbox and Sony are the exclusives. So even if it's a small portion of the total, many people will decide one console or another depending on if they prefer Halo & Gears (and the others) or God of War & Uncharted (and the others).
LittleBigGamer
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Tomeru
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People throwing around "the average gamer" or "most gamers" are full of "no evidence" and are even "less funny".
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DoctaThompson
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Jokes on nobody, but you man. Playing games at 30fps and under must have negative side effects, if you can't see the difference between 60 and 120fps. Why would next gen consoles even support those framerates if they're undetectable to the human eye? Don't you think that is strange, to say the least? Or you're just mad PC games will be playing Sony's entire catalog of exclusives this generation, at higher framerates, resolution, and quality?
LittleBigGamer
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It's no evidence that most multiplatform games sell way more on consoles(their 30fps version) than the pc versions?
mckmas8808
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I doubt it.
ebullientprism
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LittleBigGamer
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You are in the minority if you see huge differences in 60 vs 120.
Stop pretending to yourself that neogaf/internet bubble means something, and stop ....the ad hominem.
If I am mad, imagine the feeling that you can't play them for 20 years(lol). Either way, nobody says that entire library will come to pc. This is your wishful thinking. I imagine you will start again the petitions and begging for games previous months pretend to ''don't'' like.
I can play the ad hominem game too.
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SleepDoctor
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Not surprising. Im sure this is the norm for these guys. Guys have meltdowns on here over rumors so just imagine what this announcement did for most of the champs here.
DoctaThompson
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When you play games at a minimum of 100+ fps, dropping down to 60 is very noticeable. It's extremely obvious, like driving 120mph, vs 60mph. Big difference.
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StreetsofBeige
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You know it's a big issue when even a game dev gets involved.
typically devs stay on the sidelines so gamers don't see them taking sides.
when a dev makes a stand (and this guys used to even work at guerrilla at few years ago) telling all these babies to grow up you know it's getting heated.
the majority of gamers are open to cross platform gaming of franchises, but if any sore gamers don't want to listen to other forums people, then listen to a game dev themselves.
Gears 1 was arguably the biggest awesome exclusive in the early days of last gen. then a year later Gears is announced for PC. Better looking, and even included additional content with an extra chapter you can fight a Brumack.
Did 360 gamers really care a PC gamer got Gears that is better? I didn't.
LittleBigGamer
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I used to be pc gamer and today some PSVR games are native 90-120frames/second.
I can't tell the difference. Maybe you can. But you are the minority. That's what I am saying. It's not bad at all. You are not a bad person.
Believe me, or just believe the common sense...if the difference for more people was what you seeing, then studios would focus at 120fps for every game. They want money.
The fact is the 60vs30 is overrated for the average(not me and you), so the guy you quoted was right. The game market is not about us(here in neogaf).
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StreetsofBeige
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Lol. Who would actually believe someone would be this pissed at this?
I think this is the same guy who posted a video crying MLB was going multiplat (and his friends are giggling in the background)???? I think someone said it's the same guy.
MoreJRPG
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I don't see PC elitists threatening to boycott a game because it's releasing on console.
LittleBigGamer
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This is not an elitism at all. It's ''stubitism.'' lol
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-MD-
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I absolutely believe there are people out there like that video that are genuine. I recall a Vita game being ported to PC a couple years ago and an Era poster said he "felt physically ill" at the thought of it.
StreetsofBeige
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That's BS.
In every game warring thread, how often do you see a PC gamer with a good rig spoil the party among console peons?
doesn't happen often. At least not on gaf or Resetera.
maybe on some PC gaming centric forums everyone brags about who has the best gpu but not around here
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LittleBigGamer
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Every now and then you can see posts of them to demonstrate some kind of supernatural superiority. You don't? Here, Era, everywhere
Even in 9gag you can see their elitism every day. I am not sure about today tbh, because I don't follow 9gag anymore.
I am not talking about fanboyism in general, or stupid reaction like the above one(about former guerilla guy)..
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ebullientprism
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You havent been long on this site I guess?
Tomeru
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So that means that most gamers prefer 30fps. Yeah, please explain - in depth, how you came to that entirely plausible conclusion.
NOLA_Gaffer
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Can you imagine getting upset that more people get to play a videogame?
Jesus Christ.
Jesus Christ.
molasar
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LittleBigGamer
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It started when someone said that 30vs60 is overrated in general. And I agreed. I never said the bold.
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StreetsofBeige
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Ya but when someone spends a whopping $300 on box that is probably 90% plastic and 10% microchips, don't you think they deserve exclusive video games vs. a PC gamer who can spend $1000+ getting a 3 year old port?