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Star Wars Rise of Skywalker...aged well?

GeorgioCostanzaX

GeorgioCostanzaX

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So with all of the social media and Era reviews this film kind of got ruined for me with all of the identity politic BS. I just rewatched it at home and you know what removed from the lefty take on it I freaking loved it. It’s not perfect but the pacing felt better at home and I appreciate a happy ending in these dark times #Reyloforlyfe
 
Punished Miku

Punished Miku

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I haven't seen it a 2nd time. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

But god damn, I was genuinely shocked at how bad it truly was when I saw it. It makes The Last Jedi and the prequels look amazing. It had nothing to do with being "lefty." It was just basic filmmaking sins, like awful pacing, awful writing, awful action scenes. I almost didn't make it to the end of the movie in the theater. Red Letter Media pretty much summed up my feelings on it.
 
JareBear: Remastered

JareBear: Remastered

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I don’t think it’s aged well. I was really bored while I watched it again at home.

In fairness, I watched it immediately after Bird of Prey, which is awful, so maybe I wasn’t in the right frame of mind
 
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GeorgioCostanzaX

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Grinchy said:
It's ok to like god-awful movies. It's not even a social justice thing. It's a giant pile of shit if you care about story, dialog, or characters.

If you are content just watching the colored lazers and boom booms then more power to ya.
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Still has its flaws I just don’t give a shit anymore there are more important things to get upset over in the world.
 
Bolivar687

Bolivar687

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I finally watched it a few days ago and I was surprised at how bad it was. If he watched it, it must have made George Lucas come as close as he could possibly get to regretting having sold Star Wars for $4 billion.
 
King of Foxes

King of Foxes

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I'm being 100% serious, i downloaded this yesterday and made it 14 min into it before i turned it off.

it was so incredibly rushed i just noped out, i didnt even try skip through i just gave up
 
nush

nush

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I've got to get some screenshots of leias head digitally imposed on another actors body. It's so bad.

This movie is still as bad at home as it was in the theater, I only brought it so it wasn't missing from the Star Wars collection.
 
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Kagey K

Kagey K

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nush said:
I've got to get some screenshots of leias head digitally imposed on another actors body. It's so bad.

This movie is still as bad at home as it was in the theater, I only brought it so it wasn't missing from the Star Wars collection.
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I will admit to liking the prequel trilogy more now that my son helped me experience it through his eyes, but even he sees through the shit the sequel trilogy is.
 
HoodWinked

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movie gets a at least you tried effort, the movie is a disaster mostly because Last Jedi squandered and burned all the plot lines for nothing. so you have no more investment in the franchise, the new characters suck and the old ones are mostly gone.
 
epicnemesis

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It goes like this:

The prequels are a horribly executed interesting story

The sequels are a well executed
horrific story.


You can choose to focus on the negatives of each one or the positives. I think the sequels are a fun romp through a universe I care deeply about. I don’t take it a step further like it seems a lot of people do and say “it undoes the original trilogy.” I can see their logic, but that thinking means that the end of ROTJ would be the final Star Wars thing that included the force and force users. Anakin’s redemption arc would have been the last force conflict. That’s a boring future for Star Wars, so the conflict had to continue in some form.

*Executed isn’t the right word, because I don’t think they were executed well, but they were just more competent films than the prequels.
 
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NeoGiffer

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GymWolf said:
yeah, it aged like milk.
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HellforLeather

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I did a LTTP not that long ago on this and I still stand by my impressions. The themes and stuff are pretty interesting but the execution is pretty poor. There are so many scenes that just feel like weirdly manic garbage that I dont think I can sit through it again frankly. No scenes are ever left to just breathe, its all fast pacing and characters just being loud and boisterous.

So why even bother with The First Order if the real threat was this super secret fleet that nobody knew about, including the First Order? How the fuck could you keep a massive fleet, crewed by thousands (millions?) of people and have it never leak? You could go on and on.

Also, I dont mind Kylo and Rey so much but the rest of the characters can just fuck right off. Poe is a shitty Han, Finn has had nothing to do for at least a movie and a half, Rose....lets face it, if it wasnt for the "controversy" surrounding this character, nobody would remember her in the series.

The entire trilogy would have greatly benefited from being scaled down just to focus on Kylo and Rey.
 
Batiman

Batiman

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Ya I watched it again the other day and had a great time. The movie has tons of flaws but as a SW fan I’m used to looking past them.
 
#Phonepunk#

#Phonepunk#

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HellforLeather said:
The entire trilogy would have greatly benefited from being scaled down just to focus on Kylo and Rey.
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ugh no. it's too focused on them as is. this was the main problem with TLJ, nothing else mattered.

Kylo is not as interesting a character as people say. he's just Vader without a mask. Rey is not interesting at all.

they should have come up with more characters. more worlds. more new stuff. sadly they looked at a Darth Vader copy and thought "we aren't going to be able to top this" and they didn't even try.
 
Radical Dreamer

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#Phonepunk# said:
ugh no. it's too focused on them as is. this was the main problem with TLJ, nothing else mattered.

Kylo is not as interesting a character as people say. he's just Vader without a mask. Rey is not interesting at all.

they should have come up with more characters. more worlds. more new stuff. sadly they looked at a Darth Vader copy and thought "we aren't going to be able to top this" and they didn't even try.
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Yeah, galactic felt so small in this new trilogy it's insane. Doesn't help when they made a hyperspace jumps a joke which took in the new trilogy seconds to execute.
 
kunonabi

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politics were the least of Rise's problems. It fails at every level from a script, character, story telling, and editing perspective. It's just so incredibly inept.
 
Nymphae

Nymphae

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Zero interest in seeing it at this point. Will be more interested in this question in a number of years, not 3 months after release.
 
Woopah

Woopah

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It made me retroactively like TLJ more. It was a story written to check a bunch of boxes and did nothing interesting. TLJ had a couple of good ideas even if all of them were poorly executed.

Why Disney didn't plan these movies as a trilogy I have no idea.
 
Darkmakaimura

Darkmakaimura

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It was the best ST movie which isn't saying much.

The fact they have more movies and maybe another trilogy planned boggles me. But maybe there will finally be a long break if Corona-chan has anything to say about it.
 
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Hinedorf

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I've tried watching it a second time. Visually there's nothing wrong with the movie..... it's just that this is supposed to be the culminating end to one of the greatest sci fi franchises of all time and by all accounts the entire movie in comparison to the previous 2 in the trilogy give me only 2 words to emotionally describe the Rise of Skywalker, Rape Job

Is the movie good? That depends if you don't feel the immense soul crushing rape job experience it is to have any emotional investment in stories and additional canon.
 
desertdroog

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Star Wars is a property that requires writers who can tell good stories, regardless of politics du jour, and then weave the world around that story.

To do otherwise not only dates the media that is put out, but shackles it to preachy and vapid arcs which have no staying power.

Star Wars is a universe that could have interesting arcs, but in the case with Lucas as the overwrought hand in making it to sell toys via merchandising and more for kids vs Kathleen Kennedy the Force is Female SJW bullshit, all the fans have is a bunch of garbage at the end of the day.

The property could merely be a wrapper to a great story, be it some dramatic arc or some small story, where the places, people/aliens, technology, and fantasy force is the flavor. It would work great, since Star Wars takes from genres that are pretty kick ass (Western, Samurai, WWII, Science Fiction/Fantasy).
 
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EverythingsOverrated

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It's a weird ass movie. If you don't think about it at all It's ok. It looks and sounds great and has explosions, lasers and stuff.

BUT the second you put any thought into pretty much every plot point it falls apart.

At the end of the day the ST was such a fuckin waste. The fake storylines kids would come up with for sequels in middle School were significantly better than what we got.
 
Burger

Burger

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I found it so unfocused. Every 15 minutes a new mcguffin is introduced. And not even good mcguffins, lazy ones. It honestly sounded like they made it up on the day, and put VFX backgrounds into everything later.

"We need to destroy the nav tower 'cus the star destroyers can't fly when they are at low altitude... never mind how I have such specific information on a planet we hardly know existed.. oh no there is a 2nd nav tower on the big ship which is the only one that can fly properly and is telling all the other ships how to fly.."

I mean fucking hell I would have been whipped if I wrote a story like that in high school.
 
#Phonepunk#

#Phonepunk#

Banned
they were very successful at subverting expectations

like before TLJ i expected i would see all the SW movies in theater. expectation subverted! skipped the last two. Solo i still haven't seen at all. my expectation to continue giving them money for these was subverted.

before TLJ they had multiple trilogies planned out. Han Solo trilogy. D&D trilogy. Rian Johnson trilogy. they expected to make all these. they announced them publicly. well there goes around $10 billion in profits flushed down the toilet! expectations subverted again!

the hilarious thing about it all is the anti-prequel confidence they came in with. TFA starts with that meta line "this will begin to make things right". lol expectation subverted once more. congrats you made a trilogy worse than the prequels.
 
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