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[Vaztu]

Medium's apparently an Xbox Series X exclusive, which wasn't even made clear during the stream.

There are two types of exclusives in this case. Exclusive to next-gen consoles or exclusive to XSX only. The context of that question was whether to make it exclusive to next-gen or will XB1 get support too. So, he just says it depends on what the dev wants. (My speculation is he meant Medium will be exclusive to next-gen only)

 

[FeiRR]

Medium's apparently an Xbox Series X exclusive, which wasn't even made clear during the stream.

 

[chilichote]

None of this screams "Next Gen"! Or "Changing".

 

[IntentionalPun]

You steered the conversation in other direction with mid-late gen/'outliers' which I don't agree with. Any big budget title exclusively being developed for a console, the differences are immediately noticeable. Even with Bethesda who haven't updated their engine since PS3/360 days, the differences can be noticed between Fallout 3 and 4.

Whatever looks best on PC right now is gonna be surpassed whenever next-gen only software starts making its way on that platform, like it always has been. We don't need to temper our expectations or work around an assertion that we are the visual limit of what can be achieved. So, let's agree to disagree.

I didn't steer anything in any direction.
Read what you quoted again.

"Most games"
"Won't look MUCH better than"
"Late in the previous gen PC Games."

You are over-reacting and showing the only outliers that actually have a "leap" in graphics. The majority of games do not have a "leap" over what is being done in PC gaming late in a previous console generation. My statement leaves room for most games looking BETTER than what is being done on PC before a gen starts.. just not much. "Leaps" are few and far between and mostly towards the end of a generation, or to be frank, come from Sony first party.

You are the one steering this in a direction; I never said differences weren't noticeable.. nor was I comparing 2 generations.. like WTF? I'm comparing PC GAMES late in a generation (think 2012/2013) to CONSOLE GAMES of the next generation. MOST GAMES this gen are not huge leaps graphically over what PC was doing in 2012/2013.

And this isn't a platform war post; I like consoles and PC... but most games in general across all platforms aren't graphical showcases if we are being honest. I'm talking about the best of what is being done on PC vs. "most console games." Not intended to be a fair comparison, but also not a "platform war post."

Most games next gen are not going to be leaps above Control w/ RTX on high end PC hardware of 2019.

 

[Three Jackdaws]

Like and dislike ratio on the Series X "gameplay" Live stream

 

[B_Boss]

Sony will hit near 22GB/s mark occasionally as Cerny stated, they're just saving it for another time. It's funny that they even deleted their compressed figures in their official blog to prepare for their optimal sucker punch.

Why would they delete that? Do we have the original posting?

 

[GlassAwful]

Yikessss... Haha this is hilarious



If we've learnt anything from today's presentation is Microsoft are PR kings and that's about all.

Public Relations kings do not set you up to fall on your face and lose all momentum leading up to your product release. That's supposed to be the job of competition.

 

[FranXico]

Why the hell did you overhype this event so much, Microsoft?

Managing expectations is not that hard, come on...

 

[Neo Blaster]

Early gen, mid gen, late gen. It doesn't matter, the jump in visuals is noticeable immediately when big budget gameplay is shown. I pointed Rockstar output because both GTA V and RDR2 underwent through same intensive process of detailing.

Anyways, here is a GIF of Infamous on PS3 and PS4. Developed by same studio, and to fit your criteria it was a launch window title.

I:SS was the first game to make me go 'WOW, that's next gen' on E3 2013, it's a graphical marvel till today.

 

[Gediminas]

Why the hell did you overhype this event so much, Microsoft?

Managing expectations is not that hard, come on...

they always oversell it and always under deliver, can't remember any different. xbox defense force on red alert now hilarious to watch them now.

 

[Neo Blaster]

After seeing this from Microsoft I was expecting to see many some games that are on par with it or at least pretty close.

Maybe I just had my expectations a bit high after seeing HellBlade 2 a while back.

Both GOW and HZD were revealed in a proper gameplay demo(no in-engine BS), I expect nothing less from Sony.

 

[rntongo]

This was one of the worst game reveal shows ever. The worst in terms of showcasing "next-gen gameplay" I didn't see anything next-gen worthy.

 

[IkarugaDE]

That was like a tinder date.

Expectation
Reality

 

[scie]

Why would they delete that? Do we have the original posting?

It wasn´t there at the first place, so nothing was deleted. Thanks to the internet archive:

Timestamp: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 17:38:01 GMT

Unveiling New Details of PlayStation 5: Hardware Technical Specs

Watch live for a deep dive into PS5's system architecture and how it will shape the future of games.

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Timestamp: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 18:18:17 GMT

Unveiling New Details of PlayStation 5: Hardware Technical Specs [UPDATED]

Watch live for a deep dive into PS5's system architecture and how it will shape the future of games.

web.archive.org

If you like to play with the archive itself and everytime when the blog post was snapshot:

Wayback Machine

web.archive.org

 

[Fake]

Why the hell did you overhype this event so much, Microsoft?

I guess the huge problem was that. Keep their expectations under control.

 

[Neo Blaster]

I can almost picture Phil, Larry and Aaron scratching their heads asking what happened...

 

[FranXico]

I guess the huge problem was that. Keep their expectations under control.

They did show some cool games, it's just that people were expecting that amazing next-gen experience, and PR led them on to keep thinking that.

 

[rntongo]

I don't understand this new normal of having so many games developed for both current and next gen. I hardly remember any cross generation games when the PS3 launched. It's absurd that the last of us 2 has better graphics than anything shown today. I really hope Sony doesn't drop the ball like this.

 

[IntentionalPun]

They did show some cool games, it's just that people were expecting that amazing next-gen experience, and PR led them on to keep thinking that.

MS badly needs to make their marketing team more grass-roots, and less "marketing team."

I have my doubts anyone writing the tweets or hype cares about gameplay trailers or watched anything before making their hyped marketing statements.

But man.. it's been like this forever... fool me once... shame on you...

 

[ArcaneNLSC]

This is what I get from Inside XBOX events is that the game trailers are the pre movie trailers before the main feature of the infomercial eg game Pass, Smart Delivery and shit. Or another way is an infomercial masquerading as a games reveal event. If you listened to their community hype guys in the video who interviewed the devs they were all sdaying the same shit oh cool I'm super excited for this.... and then obviously the devs were to mention smart delivery and no loading times in return for showcasing their games and you can tell how fake the shit is which hurts it feeling genuine.

 

[icerock]

I:SS was the first game to make me go 'WOW, that's next gen' on E3 2013, it's a graphical marvel till today.

KZ:SF reveal at their PS4 keynote was that moment for me, you immediately 'get' that feeling what you're seeing is next-gen. HellBlade 2 is by far and way the most next-gen thing we've seen so far but they have been so muddy about the details. A gameplay with same level of fidelity would be that mic-drop moment which kick-starts next-gen, at least for me personally.

Why the hell did you overhype this event so much, Microsoft?

Managing expectations is not that hard, come on...

Anything short of eye-ball melting visuals will draw ire, we've all built up our own vision of what next-gen would be and when results aren't aligning, then comes the complaining. You know the expectations are too high when a PS5 technical discussion has 700k people tuning in, mostly mis-informed and mis-lead, expecting things out of the show which aren't simply there. I'm still baffled when they would be piping this edition of Inside Xbox if that's what they had in the store. Hopefully they don't hold back in their July event.

 

[3liteDragon]

So for that upcoming game reveal next Tuesday from Geoff Keighley, CoD 2020??

 

[FranXico]

Anything short of eye-ball melting visuals will draw ire, we've all built up our own vision of what next-gen would be and when results aren't aligning, then comes the complaining. You know the expectations are too high when a PS5 technical discussion has 700k people tuning in, mostly mis-informed and mis-lead, expecting things out of the show which aren't simply there. I'm still baffled when they would be piping this edition of Inside Xbox if that's what they had in the store. Hopefully they don't hold back in their July event.

I guess that's why Sony won't even do a State of Play.

 

[Gamernyc78]

You know it's funny. I'm watching them live. Colt and Grounded Gamer are even saying they could have done better.

OH good. Happy to hear at least thy admit it.

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

So for that upcoming game reveal next Tuesday from Geoff Keighley, CoD 2020??

The next season of COD wouldn't be a 'surprise' but given what happened today I won't put it past anyone to try this.

 

[FeiRR]

I guess that's why Sony won't even do a State of Play.

They will show the launch trailer for Ghost of Tsushima. This will be enough.

 

[Gamernyc78]

I find very cute people here taking my post as a console bs, because when I saw Godfall trailer I find totally shit as well, but I guess nobody remember.

Besides the AC lacking gameplay, was a fair trailer. Dirty don't look so bad either, just not 'next gen'.

Some ppl take this too serious. You found Godfall shit, I found it to be actual gameplay and better than most of this. Am I mad at you or anyone tht doesn't like it? No! The presentation was shit and we mostly knew it would be 3rd party stuff with little substance.

The white knight angle is cool but I call a spade a spade regardless if some ppl don't like it or want to seem like they are this cute neutral gamer and cant criticize anything. Now thts cute to me.

 

[3liteDragon]

 

[sircaw]

That was like a tinder date.

Expectation
Reality

Lol, never been on one of those but will take your word for it.
Scare us with details.

 

[3liteDragon]

 

[Zzpaff]

good job phill, godfall looks better today...

 

[Bo_Hazem]

Why would they delete that? Do we have the original posting?

Not sure though, I remember first time I saw it that it was showing 8-9GB/s compressed. ethomaz tried helping me finding the original one but all seemed to be updated. I think they're reserving that card for future reveals.

 

[3liteDragon]

Now it makes sense why Sony put out the TLOU2 story trailer one day before Xbox's event.

 

[SSfox]

Mk11 aftermath was more hype than the entire show
Looking forward for acv tho

 

[3liteDragon]

Hyped AF for this game.

 

[MasterCornholio]

I think they're reserving that card for future reveals.

I think I've seen someone mention before that they could get to around 11GB/s.

Maybe after working on the software they can give us a higher speed with compression?

 

[M-V2]

Savage

 

[Zoro7]

That's more like it. Something to wash my eyes out with after all the crap they had to endure today!

 

[Metroiddarks]

I got it so that mediocre stream was actually a gift to Sony, good guys

 

[BlackBuzzard]

 

[GriffinCorp]

You can't tell me this didn't look great;

I thought it looked awesome. I'm hyped for it and Chorvs,

 

[Sethbacca]

I thought it looked awesome. I'm hyped for it and Chorvs,

Chorvs looked good. I was getting vibes of the Sanderson Skyward books from it. Makes me miss the old Wing Commander and Xwing games.

 

[icerock]

good job phill, godfall looks better today...

Godfall reveal trailer was bad but gameplay snippets look neat.

 

[Metroiddarks]

Hyped AF for this game.

And that is running in a PS4.

If was a VP/shareholder of Ubisoft I saw how today's broadcast happened I will very angry with people who put my most important
game of the fiscal year in that situation for the people who say of Ubi "you will see gameplay in Xbox stream" (was seconds)
and for the people of Xbox who says basically "this probably the only game with seconds of actual gameplay" only increase the hate.

Edit: well maybe not shareholders then only care profit hahaha

 

[3liteDragon]

More events are yet to be announced for May.

 

[Fdkenzo]

More events are yet to be announced for May.

Where is Sony????!!!

 

[Bladed Thesis]

Facts.

 

[saintjules]

My first initial thoughts of this today were no doubt seeing a few trailers of course. Maybe two games (Valhalla being one) with a 5-10 minute segment each where we are sat down with a game developer walking us through a gameplay segment in one of their games. Controller in hand going through the levels, HUDs on, all that and explaining what's going on.

 

[xacto]

lol

Well, if they chose this moment to get people excited over the new Xbox... They need system sellers, or they will be in a pretty tight spot this generation as well.

But hey, Phil Spencer specifically said "When you talk about Nintendo and Sony, we have a ton of respect for them, but we see Amazon and Google as the main competitors going forward" so they probably don't care that much about having those or not.

Good thing I didn't watch that live, it was painful. Lots of filler, sorry to say, but from a personal perspective I am excited only by Scorn.

Sony, your move now.

 

[Wandering Leopard]

I think there were a few highlights but it's hard to say because there was no gameplay footage - oh well, I'm looking forward to the rumoured June 4 date for PS5 info and games.