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[LordOfChaos]

We haven't actually had hands on with the PS5 yet, but just talking to developers... I think people will be surprised in a good way. [I have been] hearing some good things about that PS5.




A bit vague but it's hard not to read this like doing better than its numerical grunt. What comes to mind is Sony (correctly) saying that flops are just a paper calculation of CUs, it's ALUs * 2 * clock speed, but other things on the die scale with clock speed, caches, buffers, command processors, etc, plus API differences and so on.


Update: Perhaps some more flavor

 

[Hendrick's]

What a shill.

 

[LordOfChaos]

What a shill.

I 'member when people were saying they were shilling for Xbox. Surely people will be consistent!

 

[Reindeer]

Damn man, so much PlayStation praising in that stream, what a bunch of shills...

 

[Xaero Gravity]

They're shills, they're not shills. Which narrative are we running with today?

 

[ZehDon]

Damn, Microsoft's cheque must have bounced. Phil better deliver that cash in person.

Spoiler

/s

 

[LordOfChaos]

They're shills, they're not shills. Which narrative are we running with today?

If they agree with me no, if they don't yes

 

[lastmessiah]

They'll go back to being shills (per NeoGAF) when they reveal the power discrepancy between PS5 and Xbox in November.

 

[tillbot8]

Digital Foundry are miles better then the hacks that consume the gaming media and press. Like night and day difference! Do they have a favourite...maybe. is it in your face? Not really. Is their content detailed, professional and interesting? Certainly. Will I stop answering my own questions in this post? Hopefully!

 

[Captain Hero]

Good to hear that .

 

[tryDEATH]

The sound cut out before he finished, but as a professional lip reader I was able to get everything he said.

The full sentence was

"We haven't actually had hands on with the PS5 yet, but just talking to developers... I think people will be surprised in a good way. [I have been] hearing some good things about that PS5[running at 1440p and dynamic 4K].

 

[mckmas8808]

Some people overlook the amount of extra dedicated hardware that's in the PS5 to relieve the CPU from some duties plus making the SSD speed even faster, and you get a system that punches well above it's TF weight. But it's done specifically from additional dedicated hardware.

 

[FrozenFlame]

Damn, Microsoft's cheque must have bounced. Phil better deliver that cash in person.

Spoiler

/s

They had to cut somewhere to be able to purchase Bethesda...

 

[Mister Wolf]

I just want to see a real world performance comparison between the two starting with Watch Dogs Legion. Good thing its a launch title.

 

[Azelover]

So far all talk.

 

[Hendrick's]

I 'member when people were saying they were schilling for Xbox. Surely people will be consistent!

People here are so predictable.

Everything negative is FUD (derp) or SHILL!!!

Anything positive is like is truth to power and the HYPE!!!

 

[Yoboman]

Everyone else on the stream:

 

[LordOfChaos]

Sarcasm my friend, sarcasm.

I understood, and was poking fun at the same bunch.

 

[Evangelion Unit-01]

The fact that so many people pile on DF around here is disappointing. They have been incredibly fair to both Sony and Microsoft over the course of this gen and have criticized and complimented both. They called Uncharted 4 a technical masterpiece and they criticized Microsoft's launch Xbox One. The whole notion pushed by fanboys that they are "paid shills" is pretty sad. They're one of the few outfits that provides real analysis on games as opposed to publishing articles about colonialism in Animal Crossing or war crimes in COD.

 

[MiguelItUp]

Ah yes, the negative feelings a lot of folks here have towards DF will surely evolve into something positive for no apparent reason, lol.

 

[Birdo]

Multiplat games will look almost identical next gen.

Makes me wonder if this will make DF redundant.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Multiplat games will look almost identical next gen.

Makes me wonder if this will make DF redundant.

Naw, GPUs, CPUs, ports, they'll always have something to do.

Even if multiplats are extremely similar, maybe people will be even more interested in the pixel peeping for their epeen measuring

 

[Yoboman]

Multiplat games will look almost identical next gen.

Makes me wonder if this will make DF redundant.

We went to 600% zoom to find differences this gen. Next gen is all about that 1200% zoom

 

[Dargor]

They're shills, they're not shills. Which narrative are we running with today?

What brand of warrior made the thread?

 

[Hendrick's]

I understood, and was poking fun at the same bunch.

I know, I misread your post. I edited mine to be more appropriate.

 

[AgentP]

What a shill.

John will get a talking to by the MS loving Ledbetter, the boss.

 

[Portugeezer]

Sony didn't send them a PS5, so this is non-shill news.

 

[Concern]

Oh its those shills again. Glad they got ran off from here.

/s

 

[MasterCornholio]

Ah yes, the negative feelings a lot of folks here have towards DF will surely evolve into something positive for no apparent reason, lol.

I don't think that will change what people say about Alex. Afterall he did drop that 2060s comment just recently.

 

[Piku_Ringo]

I think part of the problem is that Ric Leadbutter still can't afford a fucking decent toupee after all these years with the money they've gotten under the table.

 

[Xaero Gravity]

What brand of warrior made the thread?

What happens if someone not involved in consoles were to make the thread. Would the universe implode?

 

[Hendrick's]

John will get a talking to by the MS loving Ledbetter, the boss.

If he keeps this up, the whiney children who chased him off GAF may welcome him back.

 

[cyber_ninja]

I 'member when people were saying they were shilling for Xbox. Surely people will be consistent!

They shill for Sony and Microsoft every other day

 

[Senua]

Only retards called them shills in the first place, DF are good eggs!

 

[Dargor]

What happens if someone not involved in consoles were to make the thread. Would the universe implode?

That type of hypothetical analysis and calculations are way beyond human capabilities. We need some super computers from IBM.

 

[Jtibh]

Sell out. Lost all respect.

 

[gamerguywashere]

PS5 is lookin really hot. Gimme a reason to wait Sony. There has to be something wrong with this thing.

 

[tillbot8]

PS5 is lookin really hot. Gimme a reason to wait Sony. There has to be something wrong with this thing.

It's very.... big? ...that's all I got!

 

[MarcCppDev]

I just want to see a real world performance comparison between the two starting with Watch Dogs Legion. Good thing its a launch title.

Knowing UBI they will probably downscale to the lowest denominator

 

[Blond]

What a shill.

Yet he praises Microsoft so how is he shilling? Y'all really should get help, they like the best graphics and performance at the moment so it's not a real shock to hear them flip flop.

 

[MrFunSocks]

God i wish all these games media people would stop vague-booking. Just say what you mean instead of throwing out clickbait stuff like this.

 

[farmerboy]

I 'member when people were saying they were shilling for Xbox. Surely people will be consistent!

Current shilling is only to negate previous MS shilling, as that previous shilling will be shown to be misplaced when first head to heads show little difference.

 

[BluRayHiDef]

We haven't actually had hands on with the PS5 yet, but just talking to developers... I think people will be surprised in a good way. [I have been] hearing some good things about that PS5.




A bit vague but it's hard not to read this like doing better than its numerical grunt. What comes to mind is Sony (correctly) saying that flops are just a paper calculation of CUs, it's ALUs * 2 * clock speed, but other things on the die scale with clock speed, caches, buffers, command processors, etc, plus API differences and so on.

I reckon that the Geometry Engine's elimination of unnecessary calculations also contributes to better rasterization performance relative to what rasterization performance would be otherwise.

 

[oldergamer]

Kill him with fire!

 

[FrankWza]

PS5 is lookin really hot. Gimme a reason to wait Sony. There has to be something wrong with this thing.

All they did was listen to everyone's concerns about the PS4 gen cooling and noise and address it, impressively. Put together the best launch lineup in 3 generations and include an SSD that, if released tomorrow, would retail for about$350. All for $500. They need to do more,no?

 

[Hendrick's]

All they did was listen to everyone's concerns about the PS4 gen cooling and noise and address it, impressively. Put together the best launch lineup in 3 generations and include an SSD that, if released tomorrow, would retail for about$350. All for $500. They need to do more,no?

We literally have no idea if this runs cool or quiet. Let's wait before declaring it impressive.

 

[Great Hair]

Why would some developer even consider talking to any of the 5 stooges? Not just that, but also share "juicy secrets" with any of them? How did he get some devs. personal email? Or did he by accident enter a devs. only discord channel? and started questioning them?

These get like any other youtuber, twitter insider "fed with information".

 

[Superposition]

Well, well, well. Looks like Spencer accidentally sent their payment to Bethesda.

 

[namekuseijin]

hype money coming in again after pandemics

 

[FrankWza]

We literally have no idea if this runs cool or quiet. Let's wait before declaring it impressive.

Yeesh...again with the literally. Except I said they addressed it impressively. I didn't say RESOLVED. That BIG ASS heat sink and liquid cooling is impressive. So is the dust collecting that you can vac out.