Upcoming Indiana Jones game is a Xbox console Exclusive
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Hobbygaming
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I think everyone already assumed it would be
And it has to be 3rd person right?
And it has to be 3rd person right?
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Gameplaylover
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I even bet it will be a cinematic 3rd person action adventure since people and critics seem to love those.
Kenneth Haight
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We know….. MS bought Bethesda. We are aware.
Hobbygaming
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I hope so just like Hellblade 2
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Gameplaylover
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Hellblade luckily just had like 90 minutes of cinematic cutscenes, i hope it won't be much more than this.I hope so just like Hellblade 2
THE DUCK
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Shocking news........do we really need a thread for every obvious Bethesda game that will be xbox/pc exlusive?
Here's how it is: Any AAA Bethesda game that hasn't already signed a contract will be xbox/pc exclusive. This includes starfield, elder Scrolls, and new doom, and new wolfenstien, indy, dishonored 3, prey, rage, Redfall, etc, you get the idea.
Here's how it is: Any AAA Bethesda game that hasn't already signed a contract will be xbox/pc exclusive. This includes starfield, elder Scrolls, and new doom, and new wolfenstien, indy, dishonored 3, prey, rage, Redfall, etc, you get the idea.
PlayedStation
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Could be optional third or first-person like Bethesda's other recent games. I'll be playing it either way.
Cornbread78
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kanjobazooie
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One would assume so because it's being made by a 1st party studio. However, MLB The Show was also made by a 1st party.
It all depends on the deal they cut with Lucasarts. We can only speculate because that shit will remain private until we know for sure when the game is close to release.
It all depends on the deal they cut with Lucasarts. We can only speculate because that shit will remain private until we know for sure when the game is close to release.
SaucyJack
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I agree with the principle, Bethesda games will be Xbox exclusives
But I have doubts in relation to Indy, it’s not obvious here. This is a licensed ip and the deal was signed before the acquisition, whether it’s exclusive or not will need to have been endorsed by Disney.
THE DUCK
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You may be right there, but it seems unlikely, the deal was inked in Jan of 2021 and the sale of Bethesda, while not officially finalized, was sept of 2020.
Cornbread78
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Holy shit, my SeX is ready!
SaucyJack
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The sale of Zenimax was in March '21, Sept 2020 was an announcement of an intention to acquire. Read the headline “Microsoft to acquire” future tense.
Microsoft to acquire ZeniMax Media and its game publisher Bethesda Softworks - Stories
Iconic games portfolio, publishing expertise, and world-class talent accelerates growth in Microsoft’s Gaming business REDMOND, Wash. September 21, 2020 – More than three billion people on the planet play games for fun, escape, and human connection. Unlike any other medium, games empower people...
news.microsoft.com
Regardless of that, the discussions around the game have been going on for a long time, Todd's been pitching it for a decade, they would have had an agreement to proceed lot earlier. The sale of Zenimax to Microsoft does not change the fact that it’s up to Disney/Lucasfilm whether this is multi-platform or exclusive.
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Fess
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Yup this one is very clearly a MLB scenario. On the other hand so is Wolverine and afaik it’s a PS5 exclusive.
Bernkastel
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We know it is exclusive. No need to state the obvious
Shpeshal Nick
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Shpeshal Nick
.There are post to the contrary on this forum. I can’t remember which thread it was.
Hobbygaming
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Over 1 hour of cutscenes in a 7 hour game kinda sounds like the thing y'all argue against
But back on topic i hope this game has some stunning locales
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AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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It's not what MS says, it's what's in the contract. There may or may not be a clause where MS can pay a fee to get out of the contract. I'll copy and paste what I said in another thread with a few changes:
Not to make this overly confusing but the licensor of a worldwide known HUGE IP like Indiana Jones generally licenses out the product to the licensee for a minimum guarantee + a royalty (the two are not cumulative). Royalties in games can be 5-30% of the revenue and it can be a sliding scale or differ depending if it's sold directly to the customer or through a 3rd party, for example. Reports must be provided monthly or so so for example:
Licensor grants licensee the rights to produce a game based on a license. Minimum guarantee is 80MM. This means the licensee must pay the licensor that amount no matter what (usually in installments, i.e. 40MM upon signing the agreement, 20MM on X date, 20MM on Y date). Can be more installments and can vary (i.e. 2nd payment upon milestone X, 3rd payment upon milestone Y, etc), you get the point. Royalty rate for this example is 20% of the revenue.
Scenario A: Licensee botches and provides a shitty product that bombs and sells horribly. Let's say total revenue is 50MM for the product. The licensee still has to pay the licensor the 80MM minimum guarantee. This is what happened to the Avengers game. SE lost a shitload of money. Marvel still got paid.
Scenario A: Licensee provides a well received product and it sells great. Let's say total revenue is 700MM for the product. Licensee has already paid the 80MM minimum guarantee and has paid the licensor the royalty rate in a monthly or quarterly schedule. Licensor has made 140MM on this license agreement. This is what happened with Spider-Man and Miles Morales games.
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Sorry, didn't meant to imply that Microsoft would just say it and Disney/Lucas would have to agree.
I was wondering what range that % would be, we don't have any insights to the previous licensed games right?
They (Disney and Microsoft) must have had some conversations imo cause that game we all assume is on GamePass which could have an impact on the sales revenue and therefore I assume Disney's cut.
Physiognomonics
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I don't see an official MS statement.
Kenneth Haight
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you're 100% correct. It was clear this was going to be the case.
Darlingcognito
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What? How's that a scoop? Everyone has figured this out by now.
FunkMiller
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Well, that’s now to be expected.
The only spanner in the works could be Disney, of course. If they want the game on every platform, it will be. All depends on the individual contract terms.
If Disney didn’t stipulate cross console in the contract then I’ll enjoy this on my PC, day one on GamePass
The only spanner in the works could be Disney, of course. If they want the game on every platform, it will be. All depends on the individual contract terms.
If Disney didn’t stipulate cross console in the contract then I’ll enjoy this on my PC, day one on GamePass
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OmegaSupreme
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I bet the next Halo game will be exclusive too.
Fess
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Nope and we still don’t know it. Could be a MLB scenario, Disney can force Machine Games to make a PS5 port. Could be a Wolverine scenario, Disney can be okay with a XSX, PC, Xbox Cloud release.
Marty-McFly
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This is easy PR for MS.
Every single game released from Bethesda will have some sort of confirmation that it's Xbox exclusive beforehand as if it's news.
In some cases they may not be transparent about it and try to wave the possibility of a multiplat to give hope before snatching it away.
Everyone in their position would do it. Rest assured, the only game you'll be receiving from MS is Fortnite (and games planned before the deal like Deathloop).
Every single game released from Bethesda will have some sort of confirmation that it's Xbox exclusive beforehand as if it's news.
In some cases they may not be transparent about it and try to wave the possibility of a multiplat to give hope before snatching it away.
Everyone in their position would do it. Rest assured, the only game you'll be receiving from MS is Fortnite (and games planned before the deal like Deathloop).
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AnotherDayAnotherDollar
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Based on what's on the interwebz royalty rates can be anywhere from 5% to 30% of the revenue. Depends on many variables from the strength of the IP to the type of merch being licensed.
I feel very comfortable in saying that streaming license is separate and has to be negotiated separately. It's unlikely that Bethesda had that provision in the contract since it was likely not a priority for them, so you are probably right that it had to be amended to the original contract.
And much like netflix licensing out a movie/tv show or whatever it is usually a huge amount of money for x amount of time.
Gameplaylover
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The ones who did the good Wolfensteins: Machine Games
Did we get confirmation wolverine was not multiplatform? I only saw it say in development for ps5, not exclusively for ps5. No way Disney is going to let Sony reduce the potential revenue right?
That's how we play this game right?
Heisenberg007
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As you said, not officially finalized. MS could not legally influence Bethesda to sign an exclusivity development contract. Similarly, they could not have sat at the Disney/Bethesda table during the negotiation. Besides, the game was announced on Jan. 12. Who knows when the contracts were signed b/w Disney and Bethesda.
There are only two possibilities that would make this an Xbox/PC exclusive:
- Disney approached Bethesda to make an Xbox exclusive Indiana Jones game (not happening as MS wasn't involved from the beginning), or
- Disney and Bethesda signed a multiplatform Indiana Jones game contract. After the acquisition, MS renegotiated with Disney to make it exclusive, and Disney agreed.
This will remain dubious until officially confirmed. Besides, Nick isn't Jason Schrier. He gets lots of things wrong.
Gameplaylover
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skit_data
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MS does not own Fortnite, are you thinking of Minecraft?