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doesn't matter if its the primary remedy or not. it's one of the solutions ( if I am not mistaken, sorry I do not lose sleep over this so I don't know as much as the other expert lawyers in here lol )

if that remedy works with CMA, it should be a fine deal then.
The CMA have made a 277 pages document presenting theirs conclusions. We use snippets of those to discuss the deal here. A legal document is not like a normal discussion, but when done correctly can be easy to read and understand.

During the process Microsoft presented their case and answered questions. They did it with the idea to have the deal done with basically no change or limitations to the deal. So that they can do whatever they want with ABK when they finish the merger. It worked with Zenimax. The same questions were asked then and Microsoft was noncomital about things like exclusivity.

The CMA refutes some of Microsoft claims. Says that there is clear possibility of harming consumers if the deal is made as it is. Says that remedies that are not structurals are hard to enforce, not really effective, and ripe with abuse( they had a 15 years study about behavioural remedies)It even says that nothing presented at this point would be acceptable as a remedy.
Then it suggest divesture as a way to accept the deal. But says that Microsoft can still propose what it wans and that they will look out. Compare and contrast that with Sony acquisition of Bungie: they put in writing that Bungie would remain independent. The CMA and others organisations let it pass fast. If microsoft were serious about it they would have done the same. And it would have put a lot of the CMA concerns to rest.

But they didn't and Sony publicly declared that the offer they got from Microsoft was only 3 years, and not adequate a all. It is easy to say things but put them in enforcable documents is different. Look at the "10 years deal" that Microsoft is said to have made with Nintendo. It will depend at the minimum on how the merger works. If divesture is made, how can they honor that deal if they do not have control of COD?

Can the deal happens? Of course. Can it be with remedials instead of a divesture? Yes. But the snippets shown here made some of us think that a remedial could be worse than symply making COD independent. It all depends on what Microsoft wants. But they failed to anticipate the CMA concerns at the least. And dit not respond to them in a manner that made behavioural remedies easy to accept: we are in the phase 2 of the process and the answer is no for the moment.

Microsoft HAS to change its proposition and cannot do the merger like they did with Zenimax. The question is what do they want? And what are they ready to do to have what they want? We will see that in the coming months.

The EU has made a statement of objection to the deal and we do not know what will be their opinion on this yet.
 
Yeah, the modern-day Xbox is built on Game Pass and the promise to tap into one billion gamers. Consistently missing Game Pass targets for 2-3 years now could have changed that perception internally and the confidence in that strategy.

If you take away Game Pass -- even momentarily -- there isn't much left of Xbox. And without Game Pass, there is no Phil Spencer either in the picture, because Game Pass is Phil's brainchild.

Having said that, I think there is a couple more options in between that Microsoft would explore first before shutting down the division altogether (which I don't think will happen as soon as some think it'd). Going multiplatform like EA, or even having a first-party-only Game Pass tier on PlayStation and Nintendo, would be profitable options to explore.

Yeah, they would definitely do something like this rather than shut Xbox down. They know they could make money on other platforms if they went full 3P. Getting Game Pass on a Sony or Nintendo platform would probably still come with caveats though. For one it'd be specifically curated for each platform. They would probably also not want big releases to be Day 1 on the service on their platform, in order to maximize sales revenue.

At least, they won't want it if Microsoft can't cover the costs with some insanely good revenue cut for Sony & Nintendo from Game Pass on their platforms. I don't know how EA and Ubisoft handle their services on Xbox and PlayStation from a licensing payment POV, but I'm sure the fact neither do Day 1 drops of full releases is why at least Sony are willing to have services like them on PlayStation. Otherwise I dunno how much out the ass EA & Ubisoft would have to pay.

Moreover, I don't think Xbox will have a seriously barren year again. They just have too many studios to have a year like 2022 again. There will be games, for sure, but whether those games will make any impact or move the needles -- that's a separate discussion. I don't think they will move the needle by much.

Well they had a nice little surprise with HiFi Rush. They do need a better consistency of high-polish AA releases and AAA releases that actually have some genuine mass-market appeal both through the game itself and the marketing surrounding it.

Unfortunately, Microsoft kind of really suck ass at marketing; they kind of peaked with early 360 in that regard and have gone downward since. They really need marketing & messaging that speaks to & connects with large swathes of people, and does so through the game itself as much as possible.

It's not so much that GamePass needs Phil Spencer, it's that Phil Spencer championed GamePass. I've mentioned it before but CEOs rarely survive failed mergers. That's because they've tied up money for a long period of time that ultimately could have been utilized to get returns elsewhere. M&A is a huge gamble, even M&A that are successfully navigated through regulators still have a high chance of failing to generate revenue. Booty is in an even worse position and he's got to be on his way out regardless. But I don't see who will champion gamepass with Spencer gone.

They still have Sarah Bond, and she heads the Game Pass side in terms of working with developers to get games in the service.

Don't agree with the bolded statement, though I suppose normal and abnormal are opposite sides of the same coin.

Xbox leaving gaming is absolutely fan fiction and scare mongering in my opinion. From what I've read, this sentiment is mainly coming from Xbox fans who want this deal to go through. They've spent £10b on acquisitions already and had a 55m instal base last gen. Losing ABK wouldn't do anything (apart from awaken Microsoft's victim complex apparently).

Yep. At most, I can see Microsoft rebranding Xbox into a line of gaming-centric NUC mini-PCs, maybe folded under the Surface division. They could find a marketing angle for that as an upgrade path for the PC gamers still stuck on crappy integrated graphics (who make up the vast majority), and want to move on, but at reasonable prices and with a console-like experience while still having the freedom of the PC platform (say because they also want all their productivity stuff to be available).

It opens up so many avenues for Microsoft IMHO. It lets them price the consoles so they can finally make a profit off the hardware itself, allows them to manage production costs better (they don't have to push AS much volume as they do currently), can still invest in R&D and do so on a more frequent basis (they have a real reason now to bring out new models every couple of years), can be more experimental with form factors, double-down on Windows for PC gaming, and bring all their games to all relevant platforms capable of running those games. And that will help them get Game Pass on those platforms, albeit curated for each platform holder.

Because why not? By that point they would basically be a full 3P publisher, and Sony have no problem with Ubisoft+ on PlayStation. Nintendo have Sega Genesis & TurboGraphX games in NSO+. The only thing really preventing Microsoft from getting any form of Game Pass on those systems is the fact Game Pass is still heavily tied to Xbox which is still being pushed as a console brand on the traditional business model, meaning it's directly competing against other console platform holders.

Shift the brand away from that and the problem in that sense completely goes away. And Xbox diehards can still act like they have a console (in theory) and champion the rare temporary PC exclusive that comes around like a Flight Sim or Age of Empires, because if at that point Xbox is running full-fat Windows anyway, there isn't much a difference in practice between them and a PC. Just know that those games would eventually come to systems actually still on the traditional console business model like PlayStation.

So even those folks get a win 😂

A successful business is one that turns a profit, or one with a strong potential of turning a profit. Xbox can be outsold by Sony and still be a successful, viable business.

We just had Nadella give interviews talking up Bing's chances and investing heavily in a new Search battle vs Google. Bing has only 9% of the global search market! Edge has less than 7% of the US browser market share and they're still trucking on with it.

I do think that much of the commentary here is based on wishful thinking vs reality. Gaming at MS is now one of their major pillars, and is intrinsically linked to Azure via xCloud. Anyone holding their breath for a shuttering of the division will probably asphyxiate.

That's because Bing and Edge give MS user data that is then made valuable to 3P affiliate companies.

MS WANTS gaming to be a major pillar but from a financial POV, it simply isn't. Xbox constitutes piss-all in terms of their revenue bottom line, even less so for their net profits. The division could be shuttered tomorrow and their stock price would probably see a jump upward. Now, could Microsoft grow Xbox to the point where it IS a major pillar in terms of contributing to their bottom line? Yes. But they aren't there yet. Xbox (and Game Pass) may present opportunities to grow Azure more into the gaming market with big clientele, but I'd argue the Azure division could do that almost as so without Xbox's presence.

I don't think they're going to shutter the division, either. But you probably already know this; I just want to see if you think I'm anti-Xbox just because the truth is that Xbox isn't really a major pillar at the company from the POV investors & shareholders actually care about: revenue & profits.
 
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What if the PS6 is signficantly weaker than the X-Next? Will the games still have parity of features? What if there is a quirk that only works on the X-Next? What if the PS6 has a quirk that all developers utilize on the PS6 but the X-Next doesn't have it. Does parity demand that the game not utilize the quirk?


Will Microsoft promise to utilize the feature set of the PS6 and all other manufacturers and service providers?

It's impossible.
This is a great point.

Adding on to this, what if PS VR 2 takes off? Sony launches PS6 with a PS VR 3 and mandates that all PS6 games must have an accompanying VR version.

Microsoft will have to create a separate, dedicated PS VR 3 version for all CODs, because they also can't take COD off PlayStation.

Just a theoretical scenario but goes to show how complicated predicting the future would be for Microsoft and complying with whatever comes with it or risk facing hefty fines by regulators.
 

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Microsoft HAS to change its proposition and cannot do the merger like they did with Zenimax.

Yeah it certainly bit them in the ass with this acquisition. If Bethesda still released games on PlayStation I'm sure the CMA would have had a different outlook on this.

Not saying that Microsoft can't do what they want with Bethesda. They have every right to choose where those games go. But there's always consequences when exclusion happens.
 
If the deal falls through what's to stop Microsoft from establishing/co-owning a special COD studio group with Activision? In some hypothetical scenario couldn't they have a co-owned partnership with Activision to create platform exclusive COD content; similar to the way other exclusive 3rd party studio's games are funded but with shared interest (partial ownership) in a new developer group? Say Microsoft shoulders more than 50% the costs/risk somehow on paper, then Acti gets money coming in and to further spread COD's growth into service and cloud platforms, and Microsoft gets most of what they want too.

Seems if full ownership of COD is off the table that's fine, because Microsoft don't need to own all of COD, they just need it to stand out above their competitor to draw folks to their platform. I view it as a step above a marketing deal.

Personal note- I know fuck all about how businesses like this work. What is and isn't allowed. Etc. So if this is not something that can be done consider this a thought experiment and I stand corrected.
 
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If someone says the CMA will accept a behavioural remedy I am just going to assume they don't read documents. The CMA very clearly state this case does not have the conditions present for a behavioural remedy to be the primary solution.
 
If someone says the CMA will accept a behavioural remedy I am just going to assume they don't read documents. The CMA very clearly state this case does not have the conditions present for a behavioural remedy to be the primary solution.

Basically they don't trust Phils words is how I interpret it.
 
If the deal falls through what's to stop Microsoft from establishing/co-owning a special COD studio group with Activision? In some hypothetical scenario couldn't they have a co-owned partnership with Activision to create platform exclusive COD content; similar to the way other exclusive 3rd party studio's games are funded but with shared interest (partial ownership) in a new developer group? Say Microsoft shoulders more than 50% the costs/risk somehow on paper, then Acti gets money coming in and to further spread COD's growth into service and cloud platforms, and Microsoft gets most of what they want too.

Seems if full ownership of COD is off the table that's fine, because Microsoft don't need to own all of COD, they just need it to stand out above their competitor to draw folks to their platform. I view it as a step above a marketing deal.

Activision uses a lot of resources to develop Call of Duty titles.

In order to do this, then they would have to hire thousands of employees to create a new studio and then take developers from Activision to train those employees to help build that studio.

Overall, it doesn't seem worth it.

If Microsoft wants to invest a lot of money, then they're better off paying Activision to put Call of Duty day one on Game Pass.
 
I am thinking instead of spinning off Call of Duty, MS will spin off Xbox as a new company itself. That will separate it from their cloud business.

Xbox as a company has everything it needs to succeed. Phil will lead company to great heights. They even got Bethesda as gift from daddy MS. Acti-Blizz will be a merger instead of an acquisition.

Sony will follow suit with PlayStation. Thats only way they can consolidate and bring in huge influx of new players.

PlayStation is already a subsidiary of Sony. It's Xbox which is a division (structurally) within Microsoft.
 

In an interview with Financial Times, Activision-Blizzard CEO Bobby Kotick accused Sony of trying to sabotage Microsoft's proposed acquisition of the company. He also claimed that it's absurd that Sony's leadership team doesn't intend to talk with anyone both at Microsoft and Activision.

"The whole idea that we are not going to support a PlayStation or that Microsoft would not support the PlayStation, it is absurd." Bobby Kotick said. He also commented that Sony's behavior is due to the company trying to hinder Microsoft's Activision Blizzard takeover, saying: "I think this is all Sony just trying to sabotage the transaction," Despite this, Bobby Kotick remains in public defense of Microsoft, and he is optimistic the deal will go through.

Amid the conflict between Microsoft and Sony, Bobby Kotick claimed that communication between the two companies will break in case the controversial takeover is approved by regulators. He also spoke up about the FTC ( Federal Trade Commission), another regulator with whom Microsoft has to deal, assuring the company's recently-hired attorney Beth Wilkinson will crush them: "Microsoft hired attorney Beth Wilkinson. She feels that she will have to sue the FTC and she will crush them, absolutely."

Beth Wilkinson was previously hired by the FTC to carry out an antitrust investigation against Google, and Bobby Kotick says the president of the commission referred to her as a world-class lawyer. Sony, on the other hand, previously commented in response to a request from the commission, saying: "We are in contact with Microsoft and have no further comment regarding our private negotiations."
 
What if the PS6 is signficantly weaker than the X-Next? Will the games still have parity of features? What if there is a quirk that only works on the X-Next? What if the PS6 has a quirk that all developers utilize on the PS6 but the X-Next doesn't have it. Does parity demand that the game not utilize the quirk?

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Will Microsoft promise to utilize the feature set of the PS6 and all other manufacturers and service providers?

It's impossible.
Parity doesn't work like that. Especially with regard to controller setups and hardware support.

You don't make everything 1080p because one platform does not support 4k. You don't not use adaptive triggers because the other platform does not have them in its controller. You don't not put in a VR mode because the other platform doesn't support VR.

Parity simply means that all platforms receive identical features and content as long as they can support them. So if one gets 10 maps, so must the other....etc
 
Man just drop this dumb shit already.
Just because the deal is going to fall through and suddenly blue members flock to this topic to gloat doesn't mean that it isn't true what I'm saying. This has been said since the beginning that it's mostly about mobile. Obviously the rest doesn't hurt but it's mobile where the biggest growth is and where Microsoft has nothing.

No worries you can still play cod with your bro's
 
1. He is a piece of shit
2. He is extremely good at his job
3. Sony is trying to sabotage the deal, no doubt about it. It was never about letting CoD on PlayStation, that was Sony's excuse. No matter the terms not letting the deal go through is much more preferable for Sony.
 
He is right .. Sony should work from their strengths .. seems they are not confident of their own ability to create their future .

What Sony now does, is what losers do ..

Not very industry leader like .
 
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Activision uses a lot of resources to develop Call of Duty titles.

In order to do this, then they would have to hire thousands of employees to create a new studio and then take developers from Activision to train those employees to help build that studio.

Overall, it doesn't seem worth it.

If Microsoft wants to invest a lot of money, then they're better off paying Activision to put Call of Duty day one on Game Pass.
I wonder if divesting COD is part of the deal, whether that's exactly what they'll do.
 
The CMA prefers structural remedies, such as divestiture or prohibition, over behavioural remedies, because:

(a) structural remedies are more likely to deal with an SLC and its resulting adverse effects directly and comprehensively at source by restoring rivalry;

(b) behavioural remedies are less likely to have an effective impact on the SLC and its resulting adverse effects, and are more likely to create significant costly distortions in market outcomes; and

(c) structural remedies rarely require monitoring and enforcement once implemented

Behavioural remedies can operate satisfactorily in limited circumstances, especially where the company operates in a regulated environment and where there are expert monitors. In general, one or more of the following conditions will normally apply in the limited circumstances where the CMA selects behavioural remedies as the primary source of remedial action in a merger investigation:

(a) Divestiture and/or prohibition is not feasible, or the relevant costs of any feasible structural remedy far exceed the scale of the adverse effects of the SLC.

(b) The SLC is expected to have a relatively short duration (eg two to three years) due, for example, to the limited remaining term of a patent or exclusive contract.44

(c) RCBs are likely to be substantial compared with the adverse effects of the merger, and these benefits would be largely preserved by behavioural remedies but not by structural remedies

I've copied the above from the CMA Merger remedies guidance. The CMA have already stated that Divesture and or prohibition are feasible in the case and that a behavioural remedy is not appropriate in this case as the primary remedy. I don't understand how people are thinking a 10 year COD deal is enough.
 
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1. He is a piece of shit
2. He is extremely good at his job
3. Sony is trying to sabotage the deal, no doubt about it. It was never about letting CoD on PlayStation, that was Sony's excuse. No matter the terms not letting the deal go through is much more preferable for Sony.
Sony let Zenimax go. They have the right to fight for their interests. Microsoft have only themselves to blame for failing to convince regulators.
 
If the deal falls through what's to stop Microsoft from establishing/co-owning a special COD studio group with Activision? In some hypothetical scenario couldn't they have a co-owned partnership with Activision to create platform exclusive COD content; similar to the way other exclusive 3rd party studio's games are funded but with shared interest (partial ownership) in a new developer group? Say Microsoft shoulders more than 50% the costs/risk somehow on paper, then Acti gets money coming in and to further spread COD's growth into service and cloud platforms, and Microsoft gets most of what they want too.

Seems if full ownership of COD is off the table that's fine, because Microsoft don't need to own all of COD, they just need it to stand out above their competitor to draw folks to their platform. I view it as a step above a marketing deal.

Personal note- I know fuck all about how businesses like this work. What is and isn't allowed. Etc. So if this is not something that can be done consider this a thought experiment and I stand corrected.
The crazy thing about this is how what MS endgame really is. Its about optics and monopoly.

Here is an option always open to MS. Sony's deal for COD ends around 2025/26. MS could have just waited, then pay out like $1B to Activision to secure marketing and first dibs for the next 4 COD games. So basically take them through to 2030.

But MS KNOWS that would not be enough to make a dent in sonys market share. The franchise is already associated with PlayStation. It won't be enough to just have marketing rights in a world where there would probably be two times more PlayStations out there to every Xbox. What they need, is to have COD on gamepass. It would be the single biggest coup in gaming history.

So what do they do? just buy the publisher dammit. Problem solved.

You don't spend $69B to make anything accessible, you spend that to kick off the competition.
 
I mean, yeah, they are. Executives like Jim Ryan wouldn't be doing their job properly if they weren't working hard to make this deal fail.
 
1. He is a piece of shit
2. He is extremely good at his job
3. Sony is trying to sabotage the deal, no doubt about it. It was never about letting CoD on PlayStation, that was Sony's excuse. No matter the terms not letting the deal go through is much more preferable for Sony.
The deal was never about being able to compete on MS side, it's about taking games from Playstation in the future.
 
We care about Sony. They're so important to the gaming industry ...... We're trying to buy everything to make the Netflix of gaming.
 
Of course Sony is trying to sabotage the deal and COD is their excuse for it. It's their fucking job to protect their supremacy and Microsft would do the same.
 

In an interview with Financial Times, Activision-Blizzard CEO Bobby Kotick accused Sony of trying to sabotage Microsoft's proposed acquisition of the company. He also claimed that it's absurd that Sony's leadership team doesn't intend to talk with anyone both at Microsoft and Activision.

"The whole idea that we are not going to support a PlayStation or that Microsoft would not support the PlayStation, it is absurd." Bobby Kotick said. He also commented that Sony's behavior is due to the company trying to hinder Microsoft's Activision Blizzard takeover, saying: "I think this is all Sony just trying to sabotage the transaction," Despite this, Bobby Kotick remains in public defense of Microsoft, and he is optimistic the deal will go through.

Amid the conflict between Microsoft and Sony, Bobby Kotick claimed that communication between the two companies will break in case the controversial takeover is approved by regulators. He also spoke up about the FTC ( Federal Trade Commission), another regulator with whom Microsoft has to deal, assuring the company's recently-hired attorney Beth Wilkinson will crush them: "Microsoft hired attorney Beth Wilkinson. She feels that she will have to sue the FTC and she will crush them, absolutely."

Beth Wilkinson was previously hired by the FTC to carry out an antitrust investigation against Google, and Bobby Kotick says the president of the commission referred to her as a world-class lawyer. Sony, on the other hand, previously commented in response to a request from the commission, saying: "We are in contact with Microsoft and have no further comment regarding our private negotiations."
Gee, you think? :messenger_grinning_smiling:

Bobby boy, needs to settle down. After all, it's just business.

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Of course, but let's not simp for Sony making them the good guy. Which a lot of gamers and media are doing.
When you succeed, it is normal to be praised. Sony last quarter is good when the economy and the gaming sector in particular are down. They are launching this month a new, innovative and exciting peripheral in the PSVR 2, maintained their workforce and is hiring when others did not. As far as I know they do not have the problems that Activision had/has with its employees. We have to be always wary of corporations, of course. But right now I am happy with Sony : they recently gave me GOW Ragnarok. I am 80 hours in and have yet to finish it. But I do not simp for them. If something occurs that put them in a negative light I would naturally be looking at it. But unless they are using bad methods to block the merger between Microsoft and Activision I do not see the problem in them trying to make this merger fail. I prefer their professional and private approach to the public accusations that Microsoft and Activision are doing.
 
He is right .. Sony should work from their strengths .. seems they are not confident of their own ability to create their future .

What Sony now does, is what losers do ..

Not very industry leader like .
Sure, Sony, which built its success literally creating their hardware and software and studios, is the coward. Not MS, which is doing literally nothing on its own, and that just wants to monopolize existing succesful IPs, at the same time keeping them out of PS. So, now someone who is inept to create something successful is justified to monopolize the market and just buy the success others created. You are either joking or you have serious problems.
There was a time when success was reached by becoming good in something. Now you can be totally inept but you can buy the market. And that's good. Ok.
The more times pass, the more I find humans miserable.
 
Of course, but let's not simp for Sony making them the good guy. Which a lot of gamers and media are doing.
Being against a trillion dollar company that wants to swollow up the industry by buying up one of the biggest gaming publishers on top of Bethesda is not simping for Sony.

Stop being disingenuous. Both the media and gamers have been defending this garbage.
 
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The deal was never about being able to compete on MS side, it's about taking games from Playstation in the future.
No it's not, that's the spin Sony want on this.

The deal is far larger than Sony. The deal is about MS gaining talent, various IP, creating a competitor in mobile/streaming against Apple/Google all while bolstering studios, Gamepass, MTX, sales etc.

The reasons this is all happening? One, MS have huge profits to tax reduce and ActiBliz is a great strategy and alignment. Two, Xbox and Gamepass are going open platform, similar to Google's Pixel phones while still providing Android to other partners/manufacturers.

Here's a little refresher, why this Sony COD spin is horseshit.

Hogwarts day one surpassed COD, Apex Legends concurrent players on Steam. It will reflect similar in the console, mobile and streaming segments too.


This is the F2P market from 2020, source NewZoo.

Honor of Kings – $2.45 billion
Peacekeeper Elite – $2.32 billion
Roblox – $2.29 billion
Free Fire – $2.13 billion
Pokemon GO – $1.92 billion
League of Legends – $1.75 billion
Candy Crush Saga – $1.66 billion
AFK Arena – $1.45 billion
Gardenscapes: New Acres – $1.43 billion
Dungeon Fighter Online – $1.41 billion

COD the same year - $1.5 billion.

So Sony and the regulators may have a roadblock temporarily but when/if this goes to courts, which waz always likely, Sony/reg spin ain't gonna stand up to facts.

Also as I posted some time ago -

Is the deal big? Yes.

Does it create a monopoly? No.

Does it freeze out competition or price fixing etc? No.

There are too many players and segments currently for that. MS/Xbox won't even be number 1 after the ActiBliz deal, nor a deal of similar size in 2-5 years. Enough big players exist to push these market entrances or buyouts or mergers long term. So, what MS/Xbox buy King in the mobile space for example, Apple, Tencent, Google and streaming from various players all exist. If you include the Switch even at a half measure it's more competition for that segment.

Do the same with streaming e.g. Google, Amazon, MS/Xbox, nVidia etc. There's more than healthy competition there and large cash backed internationals who can spend or invest big in gaming.

Do the same with subs e.g. PS leading, Netflix entering, Ninty offering, Xbox growing. Healthy.

Do the same with consoles e.g. Switch, Sony, Xbox. Sprinkle in the history of Xbox bringing a third platform back to the console wars. Nintendo for thr last 5 out of 6 hardware releases have been traditional consoles, just like Sony and Xbox, or long dead Sega.

Pick any market segment and it's the same answer. Just because it's big and deserves to go through regulation does not mean it's a bad deal or harmful to the current or future industry and marketplace.

Phil's claim is true, not just for Xbox but for Nintendo as well. Sony want to dominate the console space, they all do. One doesn't get to call the other out when there's a room full of brands getting along. Nintendo just carves its own path. Sony and Xbox are more at heads, there is also a large cultural divide of East meets West in play.

Funny the regulators want to claim Nintendo data of 20 years but want to create a faux-duopoly for their own argument. Again when/if this goes to appeals/court Sony/regulators have a massive uphill battle, given the track record of such regulator rulings being overturned MS are not sweating anything right now. MS just proceed down the path of least resistance for now and at each phase.
 
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Being against a trillion dollar company that wants to swollow up the industry by buying up one of the biggest gaming publishers on top of Bethesda is not simping for Sony.

Stop being disingenuous. Both the media and gamers have defending this garbage.
And if Sony could do it, had the means and could get away with it they would do exactly the same thing.
 
No it's not, that's the spin Sony want on this.

The deal is far larger than Sony. The deal is about MS gaining talent, various IP, creating a competitor in mobile/streaming against Apple/Google all while bolstering studios, Gamepass, MTX, sales etc.

The reasons this is all happening? One, MS have huge profits to tax reduce and ActiBliz is a great strategy and alignment. Two, Xbox and Gamepass are going open platform, similar to Google's Pixel phones while still providing Android to other partners/manufacturers.

Here's a little refresher, why this Sony COD spin is horseshit.

Hogwarts day one surpassed COD, Apex Legends concurrent players on Steam. It will reflect similar in the console, mobile and streaming segments too.


This is the F2P market from 2020, source NewZoo.

Honor of Kings – $2.45 billion
Peacekeeper Elite – $2.32 billion
Roblox – $2.29 billion
Free Fire – $2.13 billion
Pokemon GO – $1.92 billion
League of Legends – $1.75 billion
Candy Crush Saga – $1.66 billion
AFK Arena – $1.45 billion
Gardenscapes: New Acres – $1.43 billion
Dungeon Fighter Online – $1.41 billion

COD the same year - $1.5 billion.

So Sony and the regulators may have a roadblock temporarily but when/if this goes to courts, which waz always likely, Sony/reg spin ain't gonna stand up to facts.
Sure Jan.
MS already has talent, and IPs. They have more studios than Sony.
If the deal was about competing in mobile, they would buy just King.

But saying they are buying Activision to keep games multiplatform, when Activision already only does multiplatform games sounds like a big fat lie, just like when they said that they were keeping games multiplatform if they bought Zenimax.
Where are the Playstation versions of Redfall and Starfield they said they would do in the deal?
 
And if Sony could do it, had the means and could get away with it they would do exactly the same thing.

Bitch please... MS would do the same what Sony is doing if the situation was reversed.

SONY is doing exactly what MS did when they objected to NVidia buying ARM for 40 billion.
 
So Sony and the regulators may have a roadblock temporarily but when/if this goes to courts, which waz always likely, Sony/reg spin ain't gonna stand up to facts.
They won't be taking CMA too court, so you can put that crackpot theory in the trash where it belongs.

The best they can do is appeal which will end up with the CMA to review. If CMA still aren't happy ms will be told to fuck off.

With FTC sure they can take them to court, but won't matter if CMA kill it.
 
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The sooner this greedy piece of walking human excrement departs this mortal coil, the better off the World will be.

How old is he now?, He can't have long left, surely.

I mean, At his age, just how much more money do you fucking need.
Come on man, let's not wish death upon people, or want to celebrate that kinda stuff.
This is the kinda shit you read on era, that I absolutely detest.
 
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