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[CrustyBritches]

In ND's defense, they are an openly woke developer, and they went about this the right way by making a new franchise instead of bastardizing an existing, well-loved franchise.

CDPR are in way more danger if they go woke because they would be tarnishing an existing franchise with millions of hardcore fans who want the game like the trilogy instead of some preachy stronk wahman, woke garbage.

 

[Vick]

It's those retards eternal paradox.

You hate women for wanting women to look like women and act like women, and by glorifying their unique traits and femininity.

You love women by turning them into bootleg versions of men, and by completely erasing what makes them unique and special.

dude got much better and makeup and filters

I feel that's one legitimate improvement regardless of makeup and filters, actually.

 

[grvg]

I dont care how she looks. For me the rules are simple. Did you use a real actors face in your game? Cool, i'm not buying your game then.

Imagine having a medium where you make up people, and you have the tools to make them look however you like. Cheaper and with less effort than using someone else. And you go for a recognizable face? This has to be the dumbest shit ever.

You make a good point. I'm the same way but I never even realized it. That's the same reason I keep bouncing off of death stranding.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

<sigh> Not like this.....

just not like this ....

 

[Boss Mog]

The reaction to Ciri was not that bad, the Witcher 4 trailer has more likes than dislikes, it's not like Intergalactic at all, so I'm not sure why she decided to include her. If I was CDPR I would sue her. Hard.

 

[Billbofet]

Is this self-acknowledging she is a dei hire as though it is a proud moment?!?! So confused by this approach.

 

[mckmas8808]

And she deleted it already lol

GOOD! It's so freaking stupid when people start attacking potential customers of a product THEY want to sell.

 

[LectureMaster]

GOOD! It's so freaking stupid when people start attacking potential customers of a product THEY want to sell.

Well my man, if read further you would know she probably didn't. The instagram story will disappear in 24 hours. She probably doesn't care the game's commercial performance anyway as she probably got her check already.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

She went full Star Wars The Acolyte

Never go full Star Wars The Acolyte

 

[DeepEnigma]

I feel kinda bad for the devs who have to take the heat these numbskulls create.

They chose to work with these entitled ideologues.

 

[proandrad]

wouldn't you agree she can respond to people criticizing her looks? Like I said, good for her.

She didn't do that. She decided to add to the fire. That was terrible PR.

 

[LectureMaster]

The reaction to Ciri was not that bad, the Witcher 4 trailer has more likes than dislikes, it's not like Intergalactic at all, so I'm not sure why she decided to include her. If I was CDPR I would sue her. Hard.

They always play those fallacy tricks like conflating different matters, setting strawman, etc.

CDPR definitely needs to distance themselves from the culture war, from either side.

 

[AJUMP23]

Always a pretty dumb move to provoke the internet.

 

[mckmas8808]

Well my man, if read further you would know she probably didn't. The instagram story will disappear in 24 hours. She probably doesn't care the game's commercial performance anyway as she probably got her check already.

Didn't she end up deleting the post before the 24 hour period ran out?

They chose to work with these entitled ideologues.

I also think too many people get lost in the "Social Media" battle sauce. Reading too much social media would lead you to believe everything sucks in life.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I also think too many people get lost in the "Social Media" battle sauce. Reading too much social media would lead you to believe everything sucks in life.

While true, it's not good business 101.

 

[LectureMaster]

Didn't she end up deleting the post before the 24 hour period ran out?

Don't think so, there was another screenshot taken yesterday, showing the post was 19 hours ago. So I'd assume she let it to lapse automatically.

 

[thicc_girls_are_teh_best]

Ciri be like: why the fuck I was dragged into this shit.

TBF some people have been complete idiots hating on Witcher 4 simply because Ciri's the protagonist and because she's a woman, just like some have hated on Intergalatic for similar reasons. Even tho in both reveal trailers there was no actual far-leftist idpol or 3rd-wave feminists messaging.

However, this post by the Intergalatic actress just justified a good chunk of the hate the trailer was getting earlier. Or better to say, she just gave that audience a bone to chew on so that they can justify their initial outrage with confirmation bias. Like others said, this is NOT the way to handle that type of criticism. Wanna prove them wrong? Focus on actually making the character & game appealing. Focus on the story, focus on the gameplay. Don't focus on the fact the characters are women or POC because that should just be something incidental, not a selling point.

Like JFC it isn't that hard. We solved this in the '90s. How are people regressing on it as time goes on? Makes no sense.

At least she quickly deleted it. Thanks, publicist!

 

[mckmas8808]

While true, it's not good business 101.

It's top 3 WORSE business 101 practices, post-2020. I think it'll take another 5 years before people catch up and realize what the internet is and what it isn't. And provoking the internet is BAD BUSINESS!!! It doesn't matter what side you're on.

 

[R3TRO]

Bold move.

 

[Trilobit]

People would probably like her personality if the character was a man.

No. I stopped playing GTA V much because I couldn't stand the three male main characters' personalities. I really disliked the main character in the latest Avatar game and I played it as a male character. I'd still think the main character in Intergalactic was obnoxious and uninteresting if she was a man.

 

[a multicultural team of v]

when ND ends up laying staff off make sure you respond to all their Twitter posts by saying "u mad bro?"

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I'm not sure what to add that already hasn't been said but these developers or voice actors will come in like this are alienating their main target base.

Most of us still do play games for the fun of it and to not be reminded of real life so much especially when it comes to weird happenings in the world like we've been seeing the last four or eight years.

And I'm not one to want to cancel the game on my list but this certainly does put a asterisk on an otherwise interesting game.

And another thing that really bothers me is that she clearly is somebody that's probably on the left. If somebody on the other side said that you know they'd be trying to cancel or already have canceled even if the stupid world cancel culture stuff is at least slowing down for now.

I've always been about being fair and it's usually just one size that has been dominant in this dumb initiative of dei or woke or cancel culture.

Most gamers don't want that in their titles. I suggest that developers have a long talk and consider replacing people that are going to be acting like that.

 

[LectureMaster]

TBF some people have been complete idiots hating on Witcher 4 simply because Ciri's the protagonist and because she's a woman, just like some have hated on Intergalatic for similar reasons. Even tho in both reveal trailers there was no actual far-leftist idpol or 3rd-wave feminists messaging.

However, this post by the Intergalatic actress just justified a good chunk of the hate the trailer was getting earlier. Or better to say, she just gave that audience a bone to chew on so that they can justify their initial outrage with confirmation bias. Like others said, this is NOT the way to handle that type of criticism. Wanna prove them wrong? Focus on actually making the character & game appealing. Focus on the story, focus on the gameplay. Don't focus on the fact the characters are women or POC because that should just be something incidental, not a selling point.

Like JFC it isn't that hard. We solved this in the '90s. How are people regressing on it as time goes on? Makes no sense.

At least she quickly deleted it. Thanks, publicist!

I really like W4 reveal trailer, I think what most folks were debating are whether CDPR changed the lore in the books to make Ciri pass trials of the grasses.

And I already posted many W4 dev interviews on the board, judging by their transparency and sincerity, I tend to be believe W4 will be great and all the changes they are making will make sense.

As for Intergalactic, even now I still think the game could turn out great, and looking forward to gameplay reveals. But Druckmann's narcissism is kinda overshowing the game, those nonsense culture wars around the game should've never happened.

 

[SmokedMeat]

You're all going to be playing this.

 

[LectureMaster]

Bold move.

You mean Bald move, right?

 

[Brigandier]

What controversy? Funny post.

Edit: oh, I see, the "controversy" is all those triggered by something silly like this and making some pretty extreme leaps of logic based on it. Makes sense I suppose, like she should be celebrating everyone hating her for her appearance and thinking she dictates the game direction or something

That's all of who the image berates, nerds who hated on her character's appearance (whether disguised as how she totally looks different irl compared to the game or not) so if you feel attacked that's a you issue and has nothing to do with the gaming community at large you wish to apply it to

 

[Mister Wolf]

She is an arrogant fool pulling that stunt.

 

[TerribleAtThisGame]

...but I didn't dislike the trailer because of her hair or "woman". It's the utterly generic 2020 template character and idiotic voice acting itself. It's just unintentionally funny how cliched it all is.

Selene from Returnal is one of my favorite videogame characters of all time because of the writing and performance and that's a middle-aged woman talking about trauma. It didn't come off as pandering, forced nor corny once in my opinion. Neither does any of it in Silent Hill 2 or SOMA for example which are essentially "my mental health issues" simulators. It's the quality of the writing that matters, not so much the actual topic. ND are just the Hollywood movie aping arthouse flicks on an extremely superficial level.

So what now? Not an incel, don't hate women nor stories dealing with trauma.

 

[Icymanipulator]

Why she dragging Ciri into this? Wtf

 

[Alexios]

...but I didn't dislike the trailer because of her hair or "woman". It's the utterly generic 2020 template character and idiotic voice acting itself. It's just unintentionally funny how cliched it all is.

Selene from Returnal is one of my favorite videogame characters of all time because of the writing and performance and that's a middle-aged woman talking about trauma. It didn't come off as pandering, forced nor corny once in my opinion. Neither does any of it in Silent Hill 2 or SOMA for example which are essentially "my mental health issues" simulators. It's the quality of the writing that matters, not so much the actual topic. ND are just the Hollywood movie aping arthouse flicks on an extremely superficial level.

So what now? Not an incel, don't hate women nor stories dealing with trauma.

Then the comic has nothing to do with you, Idk what you mean with "what now" is she supposed to address everyone personally about shit they don't even care about? The what now is, same as before the thread for you (and me), lol, play and follow what you like, you don't need to ask her about it.

I have 0 interest in this, it looks like Jedi Survivor Sony style to me. But then again I'm not hating on Sony cinematic auto playing action adventures the last year or so it's cool because of some anti-woke fad where people project whatever crap to whatever, I just never liked them since Uncharted

Still funny to see the "controversy". Oh no she's waging politics warz, like, it was just a pic telling some rude, vulgar folks that hated on her and/or her character's looks in juvenile and immature ways to fuck off, it's the pages upon pages that follow here and in similar reposts that are the warring, lol.

Also (unrelated to the quoted but it's been said more than once now), she obviously didn't draw it so she's not bringing Ciri into it anything folks, the random person who drew it did (and it's relevant because folks also hated on Ciri for her appearance alone anyway, weirdos even hoped she would overtake the Alloy memes around here because she looks like female witcher/Geralt, not a model), do people want folks in the world to come personally ask them before drawing anything now or what? That type of person sure has adopted the evil cancel culture they preached against. funny shit.

 

[daninthemix]

No, not mad. I feel literally nothing from that trailer.

 

[Plague Doctor]

As for Intergalactic, even now I still think the game could turn out great, and looking forward to gameplay reveals. But Druckmann's narcissism is kinda overshowing the game, those nonsense culture wars around the game should've never happened.

This. This is the issue.

I don't care what side you fall on (I may think you - not you personally LectureMaster- are wacky and wrong, but like your shit whatever it is.)

But... here's this thing. Devs/Journo/Actor go out of their way to kicks the hornets' nest and then cries why the hornets are attacking.

Don't kick the fucking nest. That's it. They are professionals run by billion dollar companies. Act like it.

Even if these games are great, this never should have been an issue and by that I mean there should have never been an inciting issue. There is no benefit for this. None. Zero. Zilch.

 

[VulcanRaven]

What controversy? Funny post.

Edit: oh, I see, the "controversy" is all those triggered by something silly like this and making some pretty extreme leaps of logic based on it. Makes sense I suppose, like she should be celebrating everyone hating her for her appearance and thinking she dictates the game direction or something

That's all of who the image berates, nerds who hated on her character's appearance (whether disguised as how she totally looks different irl compared to the game or not) so if you feel attacked that's a you issue and has nothing to do with the gaming community at large you wish to apply it to

 

[Boss Mog]

They always play those fallacy tricks like conflating different matters, setting strawman, etc.

CDPR definitely needs to distance themselves from the culture war, from either side.

They did a good job with CyberPunk 2077. It felt inclusive without being woke. None of the missions or side quests were about preaching woke propaganda.

Why she dragging Ciri into this? Wtf

Exactly. I would not be happy if I was CDPR.

 

[LectureMaster]

This. This is the issue.

I don't care what side you fall on (I may think you - not you personally LectureMaster- are wacky and wrong, but like your shit whatever it is.)

But... here's this thing. Devs/Journo/Actor go out of their way to kicks the hornets' nest and then cries why the hornets are attacking.

Don't kick the fucking nest. That's it. They are professionals run by billion dollar companies. Act like it.

Even if these games are great, this never should have been an issue and by that I mean there should have never been an inciting issue. There is no benefit for this. None. Zero. Zilch.

My man, if only most devs/journo/gamers would think this way like you do..

 

[KimDongHwan]

This. This is the issue.

I don't care what side you fall on (I may think you - not you personally LectureMaster- are wacky and wrong, but like your shit whatever it is.)

But... here's this thing. Devs/Journo/Actor go out of their way to kicks the hornets' nest and then cries why the hornets are attacking.

Don't kick the fucking nest. That's it. They are professionals run by billion dollar companies. Act like it.

Even if these games are great, this never should have been an issue and by that I mean there should have never been an inciting issue. There is no benefit for this. None. Zero. Zilch.

Agree 100%. And same thing with Naughty Dog closing the comments on Youtube, why not just let the people comment whatever and make the game trailer live up to its own merit? Like people's perception won't change because you don't let them comment on it, they will just bring it up to a new platform altogether.

 

[Ev1L AuRoN]

eeeehhhmm I'm out.

 

[LectureMaster]

They did a good job with CyberPunk 2077. It felt inclusive without being woke. None of the missions or side quests were about preaching woke propaganda.

Exactly, and all those queerness were well written and made sense in a dystopia future setting!

I can enjoy all those inclusivity contents if they are truly well thought and well executed, and I hope CDPR pull it off in W4.

 

[EverydayBeast]

It's really to promote wigs that can't be ignored

 

[LectureMaster]

It's really to promote wigs that can't be ignored

It'll be in the digital deluxe edition or $9.99 as standalone DLC.

 

[Fahdis]

What controversy? Funny post.

Edit: oh, I see, the "controversy" is all those triggered by something silly like this and making some pretty extreme leaps of logic based on it. Makes sense I suppose, like she should be celebrating everyone hating her for her appearance and thinking she dictates the game direction or something

That's all of who the image berates, nerds who hated on her character's appearance (whether disguised as how she totally looks different irl compared to the game or not) so if you feel attacked that's a you issue and has nothing to do with the gaming community at large you wish to apply it to

Everyone considering her post about the main audience being called "incels" were in hindsight correct. Its a YOU issue when you start defending garbage like this, because these people don't care about the community let alone hold a controller properly.

Then you bastardize the community with some agenda setting douchebags like her who will be criticized by the public. At least when we disagree as gamers, we do it with insight to our hobbies because we are passionate about it.

I'm also not white btw and even I can say this DEI shit is getting out of hand along with the constant misandrist tripe. I didn't even care about the trailer because there wasn't much context, but now ND can go fuck themselves.

 

[Trekinspace88]

Good on her. The only controversy is one that some people on-line are trying to manufacture. I for one am looking forward to the game.

 

[TerribleAtThisGame]

Then the comic has nothing to do with you, Idk what you mean with "what now" is she supposed to address everyone personally about shit they don't even care about? The what now is, same as before the thread for you (and me), lol, play and follow what you like.

I liked it better when you had that shrug emoji in there.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Why she dragging Ciri into this? Wtf

Because they are trying to push a false narrative gamers hate female leads.

However, the Witcher 4 trailer was well received kick ass trailer with Ciri chopping a monsters head off, got huge a like ratio and nobody is making fun of the game. Geralt is nowhere to be seen but that's ok. You dont have people ragging on it being anti-male.

Intergalactic was the opposite. Ugly lead and 4 mins of boredom where people remember the skinhead shaving and sucking a straw with product placements. Hardly anyone focuses on the 5 seconds end of the trailer where baldy goes to slash an enemy similar to Ciri. That's because the other 3 min and 55 seconds are trash.

 

[saintjules]

 

[Cyberpunkd]

So instead of saying things like:

"Hey, I know you are angry. I know you have been through shit, I know you are worried. I will do 110% to make sure you never, ever want a protagonist with hair"

She goes with:

"Lol, u mad, incel bros?"

 

[Plague Doctor]

2 things.

1. Is this a sweet holiday card with a murderer and her murder victim she brutally killed in a touching group shot? I didn't play TLOU 2 but know the spoilers. If so... peak parody. Like if this is a troll account, that is awesome.

2. How is it possible that the intergalatic protag looks worse in each subsequent rendition? Like that is not a flattering depiction. Really need to talk to your art and design department.

 

[The Fartist]

No, this is good. She just makes the anger permanent. It won't be forgotten now. It's all out hatred

I sick of "woke" shit about as much as the next guy in here (maybe not that much, actually) but I'm buying the game day 1, I don't give a shit. I know that game will be good:

 

[shoegaze]

Ciri makes no sense in the same image. That actress is thick as a brick. Or trying to equate these two characters to drag CDPR into the conversation and dissipate the contentention point.

In ND's defense, they are an openly woke developer, and they went about this the right way by making a new franchise instead of bastardizing an existing, well-loved franchise.

Not sure if serious. You don't find TLOU2 exactly this? How not?

 

[LectureMaster]

Because they are trying to push a false narrative gamers hate female leads.

However, the Witcher 4 trailer was well received kick ass trailer with Ciri chopping a monsters head off, got huge a like ratio and nobody is making fun of the game. Geralt is nowhere to be seen but that's. You dont have people ragging on it being anti-male.

Intergalactic was the opposite. Ugly lead and 4 mins of boredom where people remember the skinhead shaving and sucking a straw with product placements. Hardly anyone focuses on the 5 seconds end of the trailer where baldy goes to slash an enemy similar to Ciri. That's because the other 3 min and 55 seconds are trash.

Man, you said it and I realized that W4 trailer told a full story and Intergalactic trailer showed literally nothing rather than the head.