Shawn Layden says PS6 will not be "fully discless"
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Hawk The Slayer
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Hopefully cause I want a bluray 4k player but not as a external drive like how the Slim and Pro has but the actual build in drive like the OG fat PS5.
LectureMaster
Has Man Musk
The current removable drive solution is pretty viable, of course they need to address the embarrassing stock issue.
bitbydeath
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I'd still like a new medium, Nintendo is doing it right with cartridges.
DeltaPolarBear
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Easy solution. Just make sure in the nations with slower internet, that all the PS6s have a disc drive bundle. Or at least at launch.
It is much easier to make PS6 fully discless by default just for manufacturing advantages. They just had to make sure they do have enough portable disc drives for everyone who needs it.
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SweetTooth
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Of course
TheGodfather07
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It's gonna be a separate add on.
lh032
I cry about Xbox and hate PlayStation.
The medium will be digital
bitbydeath
Gold Member
*new physical medium.
Unknown Soldier
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No shit, Sherlock? Too many people on GAF and most other English speaking Internet sites think USA is the world
James Sawyer Ford
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Like PS5 Pro, won't come standard I bet
Hopefully just like ps5 slim, there are variants with discdrive and those without it. But whatver happens I will buy ps6
laynelane
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He sure likes to talk about Sony, doesn't he? On topic, it would be surprising if they decided to go fully digital simply because that would leave many customers behind. Sony, like Nintendo, is popular world-wide and not everyone has the ability to be entirely digital due to internet constraints. On a personal level, I have no interest in only having the PS store for purchasing games - too expensive for the most part.
digital_ghost
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ShadyAcshuns
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Hope he's correct, or I will not be getting a PS6.
viveks86
Member
A PS6 identifying as a PS5? Should we call it a PS5 or PS6?Of course it won't. PS6 Is going to be the most trans-generational console ever, like, we'll only get upscaled PS5 games for almost the entire generation, so it needs to play PS5 discs.
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plip.plop
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I think it was done on purpose. Creating an artificial shortage, and FOMO will push people to the digital store. Once they are in that ecosystem it will be harder for them to go elsewhere.
Lord Malachite
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I'm all for an add-on drive. I want my consoles to always support discs to preserve my right of first sale. I got my OG PS5 with built-in disc drive on Day one direct from Sony. It served me well--though regrettably in September 2023 I was forced to send it into Sony because the HDMI port gave out and the disc drive was also making very loud noises, though still functioning. I kept track of the serial number and was pleased to see that I got the same system back rather than refurbished one. They put in a new drive and a new HDMI port. I could even see a little "scarring" where they replaced the port.
Just before Thanksgiving, I traded in that OG PS5 for $264. Not bad considering I got over half what I paid for it--though that was mollified a bit by the $230 repair it needed. Still, I felt that with the system already having needed one repair, it was at high risk for another repair before the PS6 comes. It just felt like a better gamble to get the PS5 Pro, so I did. It, of course, came with no optical drive, but I had wisely managed to procure one already. Popping that thing into the Pro was an absolute breeze.
Given how absurdly easy it is to install a drive on the PS5 Slim and Pro, I'm all for it being an add-on with the new system. Even moreso if they make it compatible with the PS5 drives so it's not necessary to buy a specific PS6 drive. But that's a big if. We can pretty safely assume the PS6 is going to go for $699.99 or $799.99. I'm already saving up for it as I've no intention of trading in my PS5 Pro. The number of people who want the physical games is decreasing, so it would be natural to offer it as an add-on.
Just before Thanksgiving, I traded in that OG PS5 for $264. Not bad considering I got over half what I paid for it--though that was mollified a bit by the $230 repair it needed. Still, I felt that with the system already having needed one repair, it was at high risk for another repair before the PS6 comes. It just felt like a better gamble to get the PS5 Pro, so I did. It, of course, came with no optical drive, but I had wisely managed to procure one already. Popping that thing into the Pro was an absolute breeze.
Given how absurdly easy it is to install a drive on the PS5 Slim and Pro, I'm all for it being an add-on with the new system. Even moreso if they make it compatible with the PS5 drives so it's not necessary to buy a specific PS6 drive. But that's a big if. We can pretty safely assume the PS6 is going to go for $699.99 or $799.99. I'm already saving up for it as I've no intention of trading in my PS5 Pro. The number of people who want the physical games is decreasing, so it would be natural to offer it as an add-on.
RoadHazard
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I have fine internet speeds, but I still don't want to go full digital. The primary reason being that it's simply more expensive, which makes literally zero sense but that's how Sony has decided it should be. The other being that I enjoy having physical collections of games, music, etc.
If they want to push me toward digital it needs to be significantly cheaper than physical, since I don't actually get a physical product that I can then potentially resell etc. Even if I don't usually do that, the possibility is worth something to me.
If they want to push me toward digital it needs to be significantly cheaper than physical, since I don't actually get a physical product that I can then potentially resell etc. Even if I don't usually do that, the possibility is worth something to me.
ValiantInstance
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As long as the option is there, I don't care.
You connect it to the internet and verify it once. I can live with that. If it was always online then we'd be back to the dark days of the Xbox One reveal.
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EDMIX
Writes a lot, says very little
With what gamers come to expect with new experiences, there's just no way I see a new generation taking less space, so you're definitely going to see a continuation of physical disc. Whether or not it's a different medium like ultra 4K with larger space amount or something remains to be seen, like with more layers.
Because of how poor the internet is in the West you're going to continue to see Physical, As games get larger those are you arguing about convenience let's see how fucking convenient that is when it is a 500 gig game lol Let us know how that is going to work out with them data caps when 1 game caps you lol
Anyone thinking that is impossible I want you to go over at Call of Duty today... I want you to consider what are the fucking chances a next generation one in a completely different engine with 8K is magically going to fucking be less space.....
If you want next generation experiences expect them to take up space.
Because of how poor the internet is in the West you're going to continue to see Physical, As games get larger those are you arguing about convenience let's see how fucking convenient that is when it is a 500 gig game lol Let us know how that is going to work out with them data caps when 1 game caps you lol
Anyone thinking that is impossible I want you to go over at Call of Duty today... I want you to consider what are the fucking chances a next generation one in a completely different engine with 8K is magically going to fucking be less space.....
If you want next generation experiences expect them to take up space.
RetroGamingUK
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Of course it'll use discs, not everywhere is like America
ValiantInstance
Member
Next gen will not be 8K. At 4K anti-aliasing becomes redundant. I have a 42 inch LG C2 at my pc desk and I have never seen a single jagged edge, I sit less than a meter away from it.
You certainly can't tell the difference between a 4K television and an 8K one whilst sitting on your sofa.
ValiantInstance
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The Japanese like actually owning things. A lot of Asian countries care about value, so I imagine its still relatively alien for them to hand over money for a game and not recieve a physical item in return. And they're completely right, because you don't own it if you buy digitally.
RetroGamingUK
Member
It would be suicide for Nintendo and Sony to not include physical options because of this.
Therefore Switch 2 has cartridge support, therefore PS6 will have disc support.
As for Xbox, they can't see a world outside of their Walmart/Target bubble, hence why it's difficult to get a non-digital Xbox and when they do disc games it's usually just a download wrapper.
ShaiKhulud1989
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Pro move was cost-saving, if anything, Sony push base PS5 with drive more than DE.
Nankatsu
Gold Member
This. Just like they're milking consumers now with the PRO, they'll continue the trend with PS6.
Honestly I don't really get the point, beyond collectors, the games on the disk either don't contain the full game, or are a broken mess, and need massive day one patches to function properly. This ain't gonna get better. The costs of producing physical media is not insignificant, and the demand is ever shrinking, by the time ps6 launches it'll be even less. Ps5 pro doesn't have a drive (excluding the add on), so I just don't see it happening.
RetroGamingUK
Member
Depends entirely on the publisher
Most Japanese published games contain the full playable game on disc
The problem is the likes of Microsoft, EA and Ubisoft's treatment of physical media
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Cakeboxer
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If i was Sony i would only officially sell the disc drive + physical games in countries with shitty internet and make the disc drive overpriced, scarce and PS6 wouldn't be comatible with the current disc drive.
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Putonahappyface
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
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Well, it's a good thing that you aren't Sony. I have a 1 Gbps fiber internet connection, and I still prefer physical over digital in over 95% of situations.
crackajack
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Discdriveless would be fine if it was not a specific expensive PS6 branded one. Just any external USB drive should do. Then it would be perfect.
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
So it's an even slimmer share of the market. Are they really going to build a console form factor that adds a disk drive to cater to an ever shrinking pool of enthusiasts pretty much just so they can play games from some Japanese publishers? Who no doubt will also begin slowly following path of ea etc.
It kinda feels more likely that if any physical item still exists it'll just be a USB stick that holds a licence key.
RetroGamingUK
Member
When you consider the millions and millions of software sales via disc, then of course they are.
Kerotan
Member
I don't get why people think they'll be in a hurry to get rid of the current optional disc drive solution. It's just another accessory to sell and making money off now. They'll be even cheaper to produce come the PS6. 4k UHD likely the last disc format so there will be no stress going forward making them.
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