DualSense is the best controller of all time

As with every PS controller since the introduction of them, the dual analogue stick placement is shit. The Xbox 360 controller and each subsequent iteration if it is vastly superior and you all know I'm right 😎

Hopefully the PC port of Astrobot doesn't require that piece of crap.
No. Playing 2D/fighting games is awful with assymetrical setup. It works better with cowadooty shooters (where KBM is superior anyways) but not for most console games.
 
Controllers needing to be charged is a disgrace, period.
Plugging a controller in or setting it on top of a charger periodically is extra work.
They should've added the DS2's plug ports to the PS5 and made a wired DualSense.

Huh? Just keep it plugged into the PS5 via usb. Why do you need it hard wired with some proprietary port?
 
I would say it is the best PlayStation controller so far. Still prefer the Xbox gamepad.
The most annoying thing of the dual sense is the speaker. There are way to many games that use it a bit to much (e.g. Final fantasy rebirth).
 
I agree OP. I used an Xbox Elite 2 controller on PC until the left stick broke, so I dusted off my Dualsense and I instantly fell in love with it, it is amazing for racing games too. The Crew Motorfest with direct input and a Dualsense is just perfect.
I play wired on PC so battery life is not an issue.
 
I would say it is the best PlayStation controller so far. Still prefer the Xbox gamepad.
The most annoying thing of the dual sense is the speaker. There are way to many games that use it a bit to much (e.g. Final fantasy rebirth).

Agreed. I don't understand why they would ever use the speaker when my headphones are connected to the controller.
 
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Several? I have the gentle touch to a healer cuz my one and only Dualsense is still going strong.
Do you throw them like some animal?
3 died yea, well, not dead, just stick drift. Which on the regular pads is a death sentence. They get heavy use, but just single player games, so no angry frustrated throwing 🤣. They fall on the hard floor from the sofa sometimes, but that's about it.

Oh and I've had to replace one stick on the edge.

It still blows any other controllers out the water, and is a big reason I will pay for a game I could play for free on the seriesX (which mostly gathers dust). I have the elite for the seriesX and it's just shit comparatively (I like the weight of it tho).
 
Dualsense is terrific and when its strengths are used like in Ghost of Tsushima then it beats other controllers. But controllers are very unique experiences when it comes to consoles. I wouldn't play Wind Waker with anything but a GC controller as it basically melts into your hands. And Metroid Prime 3 with wiimote and nunchuk makes you feel like you are controlling Samus' arm. Its pointer controls in that FPS is unbeaten when it comes to consoles.
 
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That's funny because the one thing I hate about it is the build quality. I have sent in 3 controllers because of drift and L3 clicking issues

It's by far the worst performing controller I ever had.
 
Still using my launch PS5 controller. Battery life is okay still. Sticks haven't had any issues. Damn thing looks brand new still. The size and weight are perfect. DualSense is hands down my favorite controller I've ever used.
 
Agreed. I don't understand why they would ever use the speaker when my headphones are connected to the controller.
I can't think of a single game that doesn't allow you to turn it off though. At least from what I've played and can remember.
This is a feature I typically associate (negatively) with a Wii remote
I remember the horror game Calling on Wii used it as a cell phone and that was sort of neat.
It's the best overall by Sony, but the Wavebird is still the GOAT!
I'll never understand why people suck off the GameCube controller so much.
 
I can't think of a single game that doesn't allow you to turn it off though. At least from what I've played and can remember.

I remember the horror game Calling on Wii used it as a cell phone and that was sort of neat.
Better than the way Mario characters sound screaming for life through bad speakers.
I'll never understand why people suck off the GameCube controller so much.

Because it's the most ergonomic controller with the most easy to read/memorize buttons. Everything on it has a unique color, shape and feel.

It looks ridiculous because it was made to be held and used, not looked at.

They did eventually throw away this accessibility design mindset because everyone cares about how it looks more.

People get confused and have to double check ABXY today. Meanwhile no small child from my past ever got confused over A, B and four C directions. That's two more buttons with less confusion -Nintendo gave up and threw in with Playstation. No one ever confused the right analog shoulder button from Z either.

It just needs the extra shoulder button a few tweaks like stick buttons.
 
It dies after like 2 hours. Worst Playstation controller of my lifetime. Even the 1995 og was better.

The small sleek SIXAXIS was the best and I dont even like the PS3 very much nor do I care for the motion gimmick. It simply had the best ergonomics (for normal sized people) and the sexiest design.
 
Better than the way Mario characters sound screaming for life through bad speakers.


Because it's the most ergonomic controller with the most easy to read/memorize buttons. Everything on it has a unique color, shape and feel.

It looks ridiculous because it was made to be held and used, not looked at.

They did eventually throw away this accessibility design mindset because everyone cares about how it looks more.

People get confused and have to double check ABXY today. Meanwhile no small child from my past ever got confused over A, B and four C directions. That's two more buttons with less confusion -Nintendo gave up and threw in with Playstation. No one ever confused the right analog shoulder button from Z either.

It just needs the extra shoulder button a few tweaks like stick buttons.
Maybe it's because I never owned a GameCube myself as a kid, but the GameCube controller is the only controller that racks my brain on what buttons are which. I never have to look at a controller even if I switch between PS/XB/Nintendo controllers but the GameCube controller confuses me.

I do agree that the overall shape is comfortable, BUT I hate most of the buttons/sticks. The C stick is gross, I don't care for octagonal stick gates, the dpad is way too small, and the triggers are too squishy and too loud.

Comfort/Uniqueness is the only things I can give the GameCube controller over anything else besides the N64 controller which is a completely irredeemable piece of shit for me lol.
 
Maybe it's because I never owned a GameCube myself as a kid, but the GameCube controller is the only controller that racks my brain on what buttons are which. I never have to look at a controller even if I switch between PS/XB/Nintendo controllers but the GameCube controller confuses me.

I do agree that the overall shape is comfortable, BUT I hate most of the buttons/sticks. The C stick is gross, I don't care for octagonal stick gates, the dpad is way too small, and the triggers are too squishy and too loud.

Comfort/Uniqueness is the only things I can give the GameCube controller over anything else besides the N64 controller which is a completely irredeemable piece of shit for me lol.

Meanwhile I still use a 64 controller to this day. For a handful of games, it's better to remember the game as it was than to play it with a new controller.

GC is the one I don't get lopsided switching to, because the buttons are so clearly defined. It doesn't matter where other controllers put the "main button", you know where it is here by picking it up and feeling it. The other 3 buttons wrap around A, with different shapes. Once you learn them it's hard to unlearn -they feel physically different under your thumb. It's why Smash players wear it like a glove. In Smash 1v1s with longtime rivals, we generally are open to either GC controller or Pro controller, the only condition is both people use the same one. There isn't really a defined winner, but the playing field has to be 1:1 (VERY important lol). Personally, I never pressed the wrong button my entire Smash career up until using the Pro controller, then it started happening once per 1000 presses or something lol. If you look at a GC pad it's almost physically impossible to strike Y when you really wanted the function on B. The B button is the only button "Left of A" on the GC pad. So every time you want to use a special move it's hard to mess up. But if you have that muscle memory built in, you're liable to strike either B or Y on the Pro. They're both "left of A" and the old B button would fall right between the current B and Y button -and they look/feel the same now.

This might sound silly but little kids and seniors have a much better time learning Kart on a GC pad. "The big green one is gas. The little red one is stop. This is steer". That's it you're done. They won't forget anything, squint at the controller or get upset you want them to understand something complicated. We take such designs for granted. I don't personally need it, but it's made my life easier...

The squishy triggers worked back then too, especially with the additional button press. Rogue Squadron II is pretty bad to play on anything but the GC controller, because the triggers controlled throttle until the R click, which gave you extra speed at the expense of shutting down weapons. Now when you want to speed up in intense gameplay you need a light finger to ensure you don't turn your lasers off. The game took functions that had been on 4 face buttons, and put them on 2 shoulders. In other words it was less complicated than the last game on 64 (progress) and impossible to recreate now. The shoulder buttons are now useless, because no more games were made to use it since then.

I'm not saying all these differences are critical, just that it worked better than it looked, and it looked that way so it would work.

I must agree the C stick was bad. Going too far differentiating sticks and buttons and carrying over "understanding" from N64. The actual stick head did not need to be a little yellow nub like a C button was, we get it Nintendo. I replaced mine with the normal stick from a wired controller because it was not even good enough for the quick menu in PSO.
 
Controllers needing to be charged is a disgrace, period.
Plugging a controller in or setting it on top of a charger periodically is extra work.
They should've added the DS2's plug ports to the PS5 and made a wired DualSense.
Nothing stops you from buying a long USB cable for the controller and leave it wired. I use the charging station to charge my controllers and will never go back, not only the controller is fully charged everytime i use it but it also looks good when not in use. And the click sound it makes when you place it on top of the charger without needing to apply any kind of force is chef kiss.
Saying its extra work is like saying that having to place the controller on top of your coffee table is extra work compared to just drop it on the ground.
 
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By far the most annoying part of my ps5 is the controller battery life. With my Xbox controllers I use rechargable batteries and never have an issue. With my ps5 I find that the controllers are constantly running out of battery or stopping me from playing by being dead when I first turn it on. They needed to make a version that took regular batteries, or at least lasted as long as the Switch pro controller or Xbox Elite controller which both last way longer.
 
Controllers must have ABC XYZ buttons
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It's nice, but doesn't cover all the input needs we have for the current gaming landscape.
 
Personally my favorite 1st party controller of all time is the Dual Sense 4.

It just has an amazing shape in hands, looks solid, colored buttons, a headset jack (less relevant these days).


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I still think that most modern controllers since the original DualStick PS 1 controller are mostly good to great (except the strange Nintendo stuff like the N64, Cube, Wii controllers, split controller for the Switch, etc.).

There are better controller for specific uses as well, like if you only play 2D games you may want to invest in a dedicated gamepad like the Hori Fighting Commander -- if you don't mind the cable!
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Personally my favorite 1st party controller of all time is the Dual Sense 4.

It just has an amazing shape in hands, looks solid, colored buttons, a headset jack (less relevant these days).


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I still think that most modern controllers since the original DualStick PS 1 controller are mostly good to great (except the strange Nintendo stuff like the N64, Cube, Wii controllers, split controller for the Switch, etc.).

There are better controller for specific uses as well, like if you only play 2D games you may want to invest in a dedicated gamepad like the Hori Fighting Commander -- if you don't mind the cable!
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The colored buttons are awesome. I'm glad Xbox kept theirs.
 
Dual Sense is super comfortable and I love the haptics where they are properly implemented (Astrobot).

My issues with it are stick drift and short battery life, with drift being the most annoying.

If Sony could make one with Hall effect sticks and 2 back buttons with same or better battery life, and not cost $200 that would be truly amazing.
 
No. Playing 2D/fighting games is awful with assymetrical setup. It works better with cowadooty shooters (where KBM is superior anyways) but not for most console games.

I only use dpad for fighting games and the dualsense d pad stinks. Ds4 was much better for fighting games. 8bitdo clears both easily.
 
While thge dualsense has some issues. It definitely is up there with some of my favorite of all time controllers since it feels really good in hand. Sadly I have had to get rid of one of mine since the controller started having stick drift. Really wish they would implement something by now to prevent this from happening. On my second dualsense now and really just enjoy using it more than any of my xbox controllers.
 
By far the most annoying part of my ps5 is the controller battery life. With my Xbox controllers I use rechargable batteries and never have an issue. With my ps5 I find that the controllers are constantly running out of battery or stopping me from playing by being dead when I first turn it on. They needed to make a version that took regular batteries, or at least lasted as long as the Switch pro controller or Xbox Elite controller which both last way longer.
I recommend buying a charging station. Dosent matter if its the oficial or a cheaper 3rd party one. Every time you grab your controller it will be fully charged.

During the PS4 gen i used 2 dualshock controllers, one would be wired to the console to charge the controller and the other one would be the one i use to play. When the battery of the one i use to play run out i switched them. Its a good method, but with a charging station you dont need a 2nd controller or have to worry about leaving your console on to charge the controller, you just leave the controller docked on the charging station when you are not playing and grab it once you want to play again.

An healthy dualsense battery should last between 8 to 12 hours, so unless you play games non stop for more than that, you dont have to worry about the battery.

As the years go by and after many charging cicles, the batteries capacity starts to die and the controller charge will not last as long. After 3 years of pretty much daily use, my launch Dualsense battery got drained to the point a full change only lasted 3 hours. The battery is easy to replace though, i bought a cheap battery on Aliexpress for 9$, it even came with the proper screwdriver and a piece of plastic to help pry open the controller. Its a 5 minute operation replacing an old battery for a new one (longer for 1st timers as they learn the controller tricks like where are the hidden screws. I highly recommend watching an youtube video of someone doing it 1st so you dont mess your controller as all 4 screws needed to open the controller are hidden), now with my cheap chinese battery, my controller last again between 8 to 12h.
 
No. Playing 2D/fighting games is awful with assymetrical setup. It works better with cowadooty shooters (where KBM is superior anyways) but not for most console games.

But Adventure Third Person Over the Shoulder games and First person games in general are best with assymetrical. Only Fighters and platformers with Dpad controls are better with symetrical. I play Fighters also and I am used to both my hands and thumbs symetrical.
 
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