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Silent Hill 2 is the best remake of all time.

ThisIsMyDog

Gold Member
silent hill 2 remake is woke garbage and worse than the original. re1 remake is the best even though im not a fan of remakes since i prefer to play the original the way it was meant to be.
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Played the first few hours of it and thought it was pretty good, although the technical issues have put me off a bit. Greatest remake of all time though? No, sorry that belongs to RE4 or RE2.
 
It's up there with the Resident Evil 1 and 4 remake and Mario RPG remake. I like the FF7 remake, but the 3 I listed where examples of it done 100 percent right. I am playing the Alone in the Dark remake at this moment, and it is nice as well.
I totally forgot about Mario RPG. Makes me wonder if a game has to be noteworthy or controversial in order to get praised. Instead they just go under the radar?
 

GudOlRub

Member
Like I said before, never got the hate Bloober got.
I never really hated them, but I was expecting the game to be mediocre at best because
A. Bloober's extremely mediocre release history.
B. All the trailers and gameplay footage looked meh at best, quite bad at worst.

Glad to have been proven wrong though.
But I still think the asking price for this game is too steep though. I bought it full price and would do it again but I'm curious to see if it sells will with such a high entry price...
 
I never really hated them, but I was expecting the game to be mediocre at best because
A. Bloober's extremely mediocre release history.
B. All the trailers and gameplay footage looked meh at best, quite bad at worst.

Glad to have been proven wrong though.
But I still think the asking price for this game is too steep though. I bought it full price and would do it again but I'm curious to see if it sells will with such a high entry price...

I have a lot of respect for people man enough to admit they called it wrong. I really liked Blair Witch and for me The Medium was like a love letter to SH.

I do get that if a new Silent Hill game was to be made, fabs would like the original team to make it .
 

squidilix

Member
Silent Hill 2 is much more respectful to the original and is a much more fear-based game than Resident Evil 2

On the other hand, the progression in Resident Evil 2 (or 3) is much more fun and the action gameplay is better.

SH2 remake is very too long and gameplay gonna boring at the middle/end (too many ennemy).
Which is a problem since the game has 9 endings, but if the first run is already irritating, then there is no incentive to get the other endings.
 

Bartski

Gold Member
Silent Hill 2 is much more respectful to the original and is a much more fear-based game than Resident Evil 2

On the other hand, the progression in Resident Evil 2 (or 3) is much more fun and the action gameplay is better.

SH2 remake is very too long and gameplay gonna boring at the middle/end (too many ennemy).
Which is a problem since the game has 9 endings, but if the first run is already irritating, then there is no incentive to get the other endings.
you can easily get all endings on one NG+ save made before the tape.
 

squidilix

Member
you can easily get all endings on one NG+ save made before the tape.

This is non-sense, I mean.

In the original, if you want "In Water" ending, You need to be between 75-50% health in game, ignoring Maria, looking Angela's Knife sometimes, read the note on the roof of the hospital, listening the doctor tape at the end of the hotel and listening Mary at final corridor.
For Maria, you need to respond or check sometimes Maria and protect her, also ignoring the letter or knife, the audio tape or the Mary audio in the final corridor.
And for Rebirth, you needed some extra object in the appartement, Historical Societal or Hotel and only avalaible on NG+.

I don't know how they do for the remake, but this is more disapointing if all ending can be unlocked with just one choice.
 

Bartski

Gold Member
This is non-sense, I mean.

In the original, if you want "In Water" ending, You need to be between 75-50% health in game, ignoring Maria, looking Angela's Knife sometimes, read the note on the roof of the hospital, listening the doctor tape at the end of the hotel and listening Mary at final corridor.
For Maria, you need to respond or check sometimes Maria and protect her, also ignoring the letter or knife, the audio tape or the Mary audio in the final corridor.
And for Rebirth, you needed some extra object in the appartement, Historical Societal or Hotel and only avalaible on NG+.

I don't know how they do for the remake, but this is more disapointing if all ending can be unlocked with just one choice.
No, it's not. It works exactly like it did in the original. You can play the entire game smart to meet all conditions, so all the options are open till almost the very end of the hotel.
 

Griffon

Member
Have you played the original?
Front to back, back to front for years back in early 00s, it's one of my absolute GOAT. And yes what they did to Mary/Maria feels like a personal affront.

Those DEI fucks are making a mockery of our culture and you people are just laying down and letting it happen.
 
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Front to back, back to front for years back in early 00s, it's one of my absolute GOAT. And yes what they did to Mary/Maria feels like a personal affront.

Those DEI fucks are making a mockery of our culture and you people are just laying down and letting it happen.
Visuals or dialogue?

Try playing with Japanese voices. I was worried that the english voice acting would completely sour the game like it did to me with The Medium, playing with Japanese voices has been a great experience and they did a great job with matching the facial expressions/tone, especially with Maria. Highly recommended.
 
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I'm experiencing SH2 for the first time with my 4090. So pretty. Puddles everywhere.

I think I rented the first silent hill for 2 days back in the day, that's all I've ever played of SH.
 
I still think Resident Evil 1 still is the best remake. There is nothing it doesn't do better than the original. There are still elements of the original Silent Hill 2 I prefer.
 
I still think Resident Evil 1 still is the best remake. There is nothing it doesn't do better than the original. There are still elements of the original Silent Hill 2 I prefer.
Barry is better in the OG. Too much of a bastard in REmake, really sullied his character for that particular entry in the series. His internal conflict is handled better in OG, remake is like he's fully on board and has little to no qualm with sabotaging STARS. Rev2 confirms this too, Canon Barry is OG Barry.
 

Madflavor

Gold Member
Barry is better in the OG. Too much of a bastard in REmake, really sullied his character for that particular entry in the series. His internal conflict is handled better in OG, remake is like he's fully on board and has little to no qualm with sabotaging STARS. Rev2 confirms this too, Canon Barry is OG Barry.

I wouldn't say he's "better". He's just unintentionally hilarious, which I guess makes him more entertaining to watch than the Remake version.
 
I still think Resident Evil 1 still is the best remake. There is nothing it doesn't do better than the original.
The dialogue is milquetoast in the remake instead of hilariously cheesy like the original. Standing, walking, and running animations look better (and are more effective) in the original while in the remake characters stand and move around like they have sticks up their butts. Also, the gasoline flask management and Lisa Trevor interruptions in the remake are a nuisance. Crimson zombies were in the original in the B3 Lab area instead of being a punishment for not using a shitty mechanic. The pacing is pretty bad in the remake as well. The lack of consistency in shotgun headshots decapitating is also annoying. Only real improvements are models, textures, and shark tank area redesign.
 
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I wouldn't say he's "better". He's just unintentionally hilarious, which I guess makes him more entertaining to watch than the Remake version.
That's Barry though. Lovable goofball but reliable as they come when it counts. OG vocal direction aside, his portrayal in Rev2 absolutely solidifies Barry's personality within the series. That's why I say OG is better for Barry because his portrayal in remake is essentially null and void because of rev2, which is an extension of his OG portrayal.
 
The dialogue is milquetoast in the remake instead of hilariously cheesy like the original. Standing, walking, and running animations look better (and are more effective) in the original while in the remake characters stand and move around like they have sticks up their butts. Also, the gasoline flask management and Lisa Trevor interruptions in the remake are a nuisance. Crimson zombies were in the original in the B2 Lab area instead of being a punishment for not using a shitty mechanic. The pacing is pretty bad in the remake as well. The lack of consistency in shotgun headshots decapitating is also annoying. Only real improvements are models, textures, and shark tank area redesign.
I won't go as far with some of the things you listed but I am 100% in agreement with movement. Controls are better in OG, much snappier. Remake is too floaty, like you're driving a boat.

I also prefer the dialogue as a whole in OG. Yes it's bad but it is nowhere near as bad as people make it out to be, it's just the most prominent example because most people are familiar with it.

Deep Fear on Sega Saturn is infinitely worse than OG RE, but few people played the game.
 

Grildon Tundy

Gold Member
I haven't played the original SH2. But I can't think of another remake that I was more impressed by than SH2.

What I hate about RE2 remake is the stalking enemy....I hate that shit. I just want to explore without feeling on edge all the damn time.

Does SH2 have any of that to the same degree? It really ruined part of RE2 to me.
It does in some brief sections. Nothing like Mr X's constant preying, though.
 

Parazels

Member
We could do this exact type of comparison for SH2. 😜
When I saw RE: Remake screenshots back in 2001,
I couldn't believe it was possible. Even considering the prerended graphics.

Silent Hill 2: Remake? Is it that different from Resident Evil 4 or Alan Wake 2?
 
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HeWhoWalks

Gold Member
When I saw RE: Remake screenshots back in 2001,
I couldn't believe it was possible. Even considering the prerended graphics.

Silent Hill 2: Remake? Is it that different from Resident Evil 4 or Alan Wake 2?
It’s different from the game it’s remaking, which is the point of it. It also looks better than both AW2 and RE4R.

Lack of other games like RE:R at the time doesn’t mean other games couldn’t be made that looked as good. And the best offline visuals in 2002 absolutely blew away RE:R.
 
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Spukc

always chasing the next thrill
Even better than until dawn on the ps5?

Or

Sonic the hedgehog 1 on the gba?
 
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HeWhoWalks

Gold Member
Even better than until dawn on the ps5?
The issue with these comparisons is how different the games are from one another. There is no 1:1 conclusion that can be drawn outside of preference.

On the technical side, SH2 looks a bit better and didn’t suffer as many bugs, but what you prefer comes down to the game itself.
 
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Kokoloko85

Member
RE1 Remake is number 1 for me

RE2 was decent, but too many changes ruined it for me, especially Mr X following you all the time. First hour was amazing
 

nnytk

Member
Silent Hill is a layered and deep psychological horror. It’s crazy but not ‘crazy’. Think Jacob’s Ladder. Tonally it’s the complete opposite of Resident Evil (and so much better). Control was very pedestrian. As someone that follows SCP stuff it was excruciatingly unimaginative, but that’s just me.

So does it features mind bending level design and transformations of walls and floors turning into hellscapes or does it stay as grounded as all of the footage I've seen?
 
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