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[Kacho]

Thankfully that's the minority

 

[jason10mm]

Now imagine this guy "immigrated" to the US from Germany, posts a bunch of Nazi propaganda, names his son Hitler, and then said son goes on to try to blow up a black church. Think folks might wanna deport him? What criteria for admission into a country accepts this kind of thought?

 

[DaciaJC]

Native Brits need to steel themselves for a repeat of the 9th century. You have a hostile implanted population that has been assaulting your children, raping your women, and brazenly destroying your cultural institutions. As they increase in number - whether through continued invasion or breeding - and thereby grow in influence, you can be sure they will seek to wrest away control and impose their dogmatic will upon you. In one sense, the situation is even more dire now compared to that particular epoch, since it is your own traitorous leaders, slaves to the globalist agenda, that have sold you out and persist in trying to smother your dissent. But at the same time, the recent Unite the Kingdom rallies did demonstrate there's still a strong patriotic backbone to your nations.

I dearly hope that this age's Alfred will soon come into his own.

 

[Kacho]

That list doesn't even include the October 7 attacks as it was blocked from being added.

But why?

 

[Dirk Benedict]

Stammer might be finally realizing he was sleeping with the devil all along.

I wish I could agree. But he seems like he talks/knows exactly what he is doing. Driving the Country off of a cliff and pretending he's not.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

I guess Jihad really was Jihad after all

Home Office~

 

[BattleScar]

Now imagine this guy "immigrated" to the US from Germany, posts a bunch of Nazi propaganda, names his son Hitler, and then said son goes on to try to blow up a black church. Think folks might wanna deport him? What criteria for admission into a country accepts this kind of thought?

Would you then unilaterally ban all Germanic or Christian peoples from immigrating into the country entirely?

What's the end goal here?

 

[Bojji]

What period are you talking about exactly here?

We've had terrorist attacks in the past, especially when a group of people stir up some hatred and division among us. We had the Finsbury Mosque attack, London Bridge attack, the murder of Jo Cox, IRA, the list goes on several decades.

The only thing that's actually different with what you're reading about my country from where you live abroad now is public perception. social media has made the division worse today among ordinary people, especially when some influencers perpetuate bullshit for political reasons with no legal restrictions about the actual facts. Laws that media outlets have and follow to hold them to a better standard. Instead they pretend that those media outlets are dirty when the people stirring up division are running amok.

Our economy hasn't been particularly strong in the past either. In fact when we left the EU it became worse. Again at the time people were blaming others instead of looking inwards and finding plausible ways of improving it. i.e they were blaming mass immigration of Polish people taking their jobs and Nigel Farage was trying to benefit from the division to start a movement to get into power under UKIP. We left the EU and things didn't improve that much economically and now he and the same mostly unemployed groups are looking for somebody else to blame and for them to come into power. You also say "uncontrolled migration" but the migration laws today are far stricter today than they have been in the past so I'm not sure what to tell you there.

Let me just tell you this. There are a group of rich people who want power, who have no problem stirring up division to keep the mindless masses busy and voting for them while the status and actual data of the country as a whole go to shit. Again social media destroyed Bernie but he had a really good point here 20 years ago



You look at what is happening over there in the US today. Blaming immigration, racial divide, religious divide, abortion issues, sexual orientation divide, "anti-woke and woke". You ask yourself what this is really about. The mass deportations, the stopping of migrants, meanwhile unemployment in the US went up during all this. Meanwhile the top 1% of the globe can now buy entry to the US with a simple payment so it got easier for some. "Oh but those are better people than the poor mexicans we let in before". Yes, because being rich stopped Epstien from being a piece of shit too. The rich politicians still need your vote so they divide and tell those riled up people what they want to hear, "I'm anti-woke and anti immigration look at me". They should shut up and improve those things that are actually important to the country rather than divide. There is rising unemployment and greater cost of goods in the US making the rich richer and not providing anything really as a benefit other than telling the poorer masses what they want to hear regarding their favourite rage-bait topics so they can get into and stay in power. There's a bunch of power hungry people trying the same in the UK now. Divide and conquer.

I agree that most of the world problems right now (high energy prices, home prices, rents, inflation etc.) are caused by rich people doing stuff that they want but this is something different. Here we are talking about government wanting to disrupt/replace/change local population. So far results are horrible.

Even if what you say about restricted laws is true, I think your government doesn't give a fuck? Certainly not abut the people that land in boats and are instantly "British". They get free place to live and money, they have access to your women and girls on the street... Fuck me. If I wanted to go to Britain from Poland I would have to fill a lot of documents I bet...

So yeah, It's 6x higher now than in the 90s. I know about IRA bombings etc. but I don't think I heard much about them since 200x.

We got the 'religion of peace' propaganda at school. Turned out to be bullshit.

They are talking about this "religion of peace" after every brutal attack done by Muslims. Fucking hilarious.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

We got the 'religion of peace' propaganda at school. Turned out to be bullshit.

I can understand long time ago all the shady kings and priests used scary religion to keep the masses (mostly peasants) under control. Give them some books and lectures about doom and gloom, and dont forget to pay your taxes too. Keep the peasants from revolting.

But in modern day, I find it hard to believe anyone (doesn't matter what religion it is) would go nuts so much over hokey scripture written 1000+ years ago. Believing shit at a time when every country probably tried taking over every other nearby country, most people were uneducated and focused on farming to stay alive, and the holy dude down the street in cahoots with the king and queen would claim god will shoot lightning bolts up your ass if you do something dumb.

I would had thought people living in a time of cars, PCs and medicine would know better and just grow up, look around, go to school, get a job, pay bills and retire. Have good fam and friends for social interaction and care and then call it day kicking the bucket as an old man.

It's like a lot of religious extremists dudes live in modern times, but have the mentality of a volatile peasant itching to go ape shit in the year 1000. Geez. Calm down, get some drive thru and get home and watch Netflix.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

Would you then unilaterally ban all Germanic or Christian peoples from immigrating into the country entirely?

What's the end goal here?

If thousands of germans would follow the same pattern, then yes, you ban them to stop the people in your country getting hurt.

The end goal is to have communities develop in positive directions for the people living there.

 

[kpopSuperstar]

I can understand long time ago all the shady kings and priests used scary religion to keep the masses (mostly peasants) under control. Give them some books and lectures about doom and gloom, and dont forget to pay your taxes too. Keep the peasants from revolting.

But in modern day, I find it hard to believe anyone (doesn't matter what religion it is) would go nuts so much over hokey scripture written 1000+ years ago. Believing shit at a time when every country probably tried taking over every other nearby country, most people were uneducated and focused on farming to stay alive, and the holy dude down the street in cahoots with the king and queen would claim god will shoot lightning bolts up your ass if you do something dumb.

I would had thought people living in a time of cars, PCs and medicine would know better and just grow up, look around, go to school, get a job, pay bills and retire. Have good fam and friends for social interaction and care and then call it day kicking the bucket as an old man.

It's like a lot of religious extremists dudes live in modern times, but have the mentality of a volatile peasant itching to go ape shit in the year 1000. Geez. Calm down, get some drive thru and get home and watch Netflix.

90% of the world is redneck backwater places. The left will never admit it, but many of the people coming here are crazy backwater folks.

Imagine being a western woman walking around in these places.

 

[Boo Who?]

There are far less murders here in the UK so calling this news "systemic" and the other not is crazy.

The US has 350 million people. The UK has 65 million. I would hope you have fewer murders. I always laugh when countries that are the size of one of our states are like "We have less crime than you". No shit, Sherlock, you are a fraction of our country. However, we have the means to defend ourselves, free speech (for now), and an administration that is trying to throw out everyone who doesn't belong here. Potentially even our famous Somali congresswomen. She is being investigated for falsifying immigration documents. She is also an absolute shit stain, and I will celebrate for at least two days if she is kicked the fuck out of here.

 

[efyu_lemonardo]

And yet police never had him or his son on a watch list, because that would be racist?

 

[DeepEnigma]

The apparent response…

Sadly, they opened Pandorah's box, and there is no going back without there being lots of bloodshed.

In other words, nothing is going to happen that needs to happen. Hollow words, I'm afraid.

Source: How he and his ilk handle rape gangs of thousands of girls.

 

[winjer]

The US has 350 million people. The UK has 65 million. I would hope you have fewer murders. I always laugh when countries that are the size of one of our states are like "We have less crime than you". No shit, Sherlock, you are a fraction of our country. However, we have the means to defend ourselves, free speech (for now), and an administration that is trying to throw out everyone who doesn't belong here. Potentially even our famous Somali congresswomen. She is being investigated for falsifying immigration documents. She is also an absolute shit stain, and I will celebrate for at least two days if she is kicked the fuck out of here.

But that is why proper statistics should be presented as " per capita"

 

[Boo Who?]

But that is why proper statistics should be presented as " per capita"

True. But the majority of the crime in the states comes from democrat run cities. In the past couple of decades, judges and DA's have become fond of releasing career criminals. I live outside of Chicago. Gang crimes and shootings are insane crazy there. A few weekends ago, there were over 50 shootings in one weekend. A few people died. It is almost all gang violence. When you see "mass shooting numbers", they never take into account the gang violence. They usually only include the awful shootings that are newsworthy. Chicago for instance, has the worst mayor of all time. He is an absolute moron and is racist as fuck (towards anyone not black). He and the last mayor have continued to lie about crime statistics. That is why there are now federal troops patrolling Chicago. You can find videos of people fist-bumping them on Michigan Ave. because they feel safe there for the 1st time in a long time. If most of the criminals were actually punished here, crime would be so much lower.

 

[P:axMagellanic]

They certainly should have listened to Tommy Robinson when he was sounding the alarm about the rape gangs ~15 years ago.

I really don't give a shit if they managed to find an error in a mortgage application or something after concentrating the resources of the state on finding anything to take him down with to try and solve a political problem. If he had been listened to, thousands of children who were repeatedly raped could have been spared that fate. The people at all levels of police and government who chose to allow that to continue are guilty of far worse than anything he has done and will likely never face any consequences, at least in this life.

The 'good Muslims' are unfortunately unwilling or unable to prevent the 'bad Muslims' being the ones who eventually come to dominate the group, first in those Islam-dominated communities and -once numerous enough- in the entire nation. That unfortunately reduces the options to being ruled by the 'bad Muslims', or not having Islam at all. There appears to be no scenario where you can only have the 'good Muslims', or where the proportion of 'bad Muslims' is not so high (compared to other groups) that they don't come to dominate the group.

It would be great if the Islamic community could get its own house in order, but that will never happen, and I don't believe there is even any particular desire within that community for it to happen. 'Good' or 'bad', they both share the goal of Islam coming to a position of dominance. I don't believe many are too fussed about the methods used to get there.

The 'good' muslims will be given a choice soon enough. Get your house in order or we'll do it for you when mosque doors start getting kicked in. We'll soon see where their loyalties lie, I'm of the opinion it won't be with this country or the rest of it's people.

 

[EviLore]

 

[JackHanma]

This is a problem in every single commonwealth country and it is not a coincidence. The problem isn't just the governments but the royal family as well.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Notice the framing..

Well thanks BBC. But why was he shot and why not put that in the headline?

Oh, you didn't mention it in the actual article that it was islamic terrorism, either? How weird

Fuck the BBC.

 

[Durien]

How about this headline in the US...

Police Accidentally Shot and Killed a Victim During Manchester Terrorist Attack - The New York Times https://share.google/KRfiobT7O6iawBi7p

Edited to add, there was nothing about the attack in my feed, only this...

 

[Donald mac Ronald]

Turns out his father openly support hamas terror attacks in the past. And posted a cryptic poste 2/3 days before the Manchester attack.

His father 100% knew what his son was going to do.
I don't understand how foreign nationals can openly support terrorism and not be deported. The USA would.

 

[falconhoof]

Some interesting stats from a Channel 4 survey back in 2015.

C4 survey and documentary reveals What British Muslims Really Think | Channel 4

Broadcaster commissioned an extensive and rigorous survey to get a better understanding of British Muslims' attitudes

www.channel4.com

It would be very good to know who would put the country above those who share their faith and want to do harm.

There wasn't a direct question about terrorism in the UK, but 34% is a fucking horrendously low number. 66% would not speak out to the police if they knew someone was getting involved with terrorists.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

I don't understand how foreign nationals can openly support terrorism and not be deported.

*Cough fucking Cough*

Yeah I don't know either.

 

[Wildebeest]

The US has 350 million people. The UK has 65 million. I would hope you have fewer murders. I always laugh when countries that are the size of one of our states are like "We have less crime than you". No shit, Sherlock, you are a fraction of our country. However, we have the means to defend ourselves, free speech (for now), and an administration that is trying to throw out everyone who doesn't belong here. Potentially even our famous Somali congresswomen. She is being investigated for falsifying immigration documents. She is also an absolute shit stain, and I will celebrate for at least two days if she is kicked the fuck out of here.

The US has violent crime rates over 5 times the UK per capita. You might hear in the US about how knife crime in UK cities it out of control and how they are no go zones. But even though the US has easier access to guns the knife crime rate in London is not higher than major US cities.

 

[P:axMagellanic]

After Southport they really thought the 'dont look back in anger' shit would work again?

Good on these people for telling them all to go fuck themselves.

What period are you talking about exactly here?

We've had terrorist attacks in the past, especially when a group of people stir up some hatred and division among us. We had the Finsbury Mosque attack, London Bridge attack, the murder of Jo Cox, IRA, the list goes on several decades.

The only thing that's actually different with what you're reading about my country from where you live abroad now is public perception. social media has made the division worse today among ordinary people, especially when some influencers perpetuate bullshit for political reasons with no legal restrictions about the actual facts. Laws that media outlets have and follow to hold them to a better standard. Instead they pretend that those media outlets are dirty when the people stirring up division are running amok.

Our economy hasn't been particularly strong in the past either. In fact when we left the EU it became worse. Again at the time people were blaming others instead of looking inwards and finding plausible ways of improving it. i.e they were blaming mass immigration of Polish people taking their jobs and Nigel Farage was trying to benefit from the division to start a movement to get into power under UKIP. We left the EU and things didn't improve that much economically and now he and the same mostly unemployed groups are looking for somebody else to blame and for them to come into power. You also say "uncontrolled migration" but the migration laws today are far stricter today than they have been in the past so I'm not sure what to tell you there.

Let me just tell you this. There are a group of rich people who want power, who have no problem stirring up division to keep the mindless masses busy and voting for them while the status and actual data of the country as a whole go to shit. Again social media destroyed Bernie but he had a really good point here 20 years ago



You look at what is happening over there in the US today. Blaming immigration, racial divide, religious divide, abortion issues, sexual orientation divide, "anti-woke and woke". You ask yourself what this is really about. The mass deportations, the stopping of migrants, meanwhile unemployment in the US went up during all this. Meanwhile the top 1% of the globe can now buy entry to the US with a simple payment so it got easier for some. "Oh but those are better people than the poor mexicans we let in before". Yes, because being rich stopped Epstien from being a piece of shit too. The rich politicians still need your vote so they divide and tell those riled up people what they want to hear, "I'm anti-woke and anti immigration look at me". They should shut up and improve those things that are actually important to the country rather than divide. There is rising unemployment and greater cost of goods in the US making the rich richer and not providing anything really as a benefit other than telling the poorer masses what they want to hear regarding their favourite rage-bait topics so they can get into and stay in power. There's a bunch of power hungry people trying the same in the UK now. Divide and conquer.

Come on, you know full well that in 20 years this country has gone from relatively safe, well regarded and decent and is now on its way to an ungovernable hell, hence all the Draconian bullshit from successive rotten governments. A fundamentally different 'civilisation' compared to what we grew up in.

Neds, chavs and Blunkett's bobbies wielding ASBO's are quaint in comparison to the anarchy running around these days.

What clinched the Brexit vote was the 400k Romanians that arrived within years of it opening up to the EU. Numbers now that are unfathomably low in comparison.

 

[Jaybe]

the Islamic terrorist was also a rapist out on bail with a bunch of other offences and also made a prior death threat to an MP

Manchester synagogue terrorist was on bail for alleged rape

Exclusive: Jihad al-Shamie had been under investigation over alleged sexual attack earlier this year, sources say

www.theguardian.com

 

[Dr.Morris79]

the Islamic terrorist was also a rapist out on bail with a bunch of other offences and also made a prior death threat to an MP

Manchester synagogue terrorist was on bail for alleged rape

Exclusive: Jihad al-Shamie had been under investigation over alleged sexual attack earlier this year, sources say

www.theguardian.com

Wasn't his dad a Doctor too?

It's just fun all round.

 

[Banjo64]

If the authenticity of that message can be verified, alongside the threat to Isreal he posted a couple of days ago, I see no reason why this person should not be remigrated to Syria.

 

[falconhoof]

Wasn't his dad a Doctor too?

Does that mean when people say that all these blokes on rubber boats coming across the channel are our future doctors I can use him as an example of who they mean?

 

[BennyBlanco]

the Islamic terrorist was also a rapist out on bail with a bunch of other offences and also made a prior death threat to an MP

Manchester synagogue terrorist was on bail for alleged rape

Exclusive: Jihad al-Shamie had been under investigation over alleged sexual attack earlier this year, sources say

www.theguardian.com

how the fuck are you eligible for bail on a rape charge?

these leftoid judges in the UK and US have seriously fucked up the most basic function of government which is to keep its citizens safe.

at least you here in the US you can carry.

 

[P:axMagellanic]

Wasn't his dad a Doctor too?

It's just fun all round.

Turns out even the doctors and engineers are complete bastards.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Does that mean when people say that all these blokes on rubber boats coming across the channel are our future doctors I can use him as an example of who they mean?

I bet a few libs wet their pants when they found out

..Only to find out he's a complete wrong'un in the same day.

 

[Brigandier]

Come on, you know full well that in 20 years this country has gone from relatively safe, well regarded and decent and is now on its way to an ungovernable hell, hence all the Draconian bullshit from successive rotten governments. A fundamentally different 'civilisation' compared to what we grew up in.

What? Didn't you hear?? It's actually not that much different now than it ever was in the past it's just social media noise and a few rogue politicians like Farage that make it seem worse than it really is!!!!!

Absolutely nothing to see here it's all just your imagination, Listening to Tommeh and Nige too much!!! You FAR RIGHT THUG.


Sadly some people actually believe what I just wrote some even in this very thread

 

[Hookshot]

After my joke yesterday he is actually a rapist? For fucks sake.

 

[winjer]

Of course he had a criminal record, and of course he was a rapist, and of course the police set him free.
This happens so many times, with so many cases, that I often wonder why we even pay to have a police force. Useless muppets.

 

[falconhoof]

I'm ok going on record in saying that when I say I hate Islam this is what I mean. I hate this. This is what I don't want to see in the world.

Whatever your religion and its followers are doing I can tell you that it's not going well and you need to do better.

Islamist terrorist attacks in the world 1979-2024 - Fondapol

• 1979-2000: 2,194 attacks and 6,817 deaths.

www.fondapol.org

 

[Tams]

If you actually go to a mosque you might find out. There's almost nothing stopping you unless it's closed. Same as church.

Did you guys never get school trips to any religious places growing up?

How about no.

And I oppose school visits to almost any religious place of worship. In a nominally Christian country, traditional churches are borderline acceptable.

 

[Angry_Megalodon]

Would you then unilaterally ban all Germanic or Christian peoples from immigrating into the country entirely?

What's the end goal here?

Having a tight control OR ANY KIND OF CONTROL on the people who enters the country. Is that so far fetched to you?

Someone who posts pro-terrorist stuff should NEVER be allowed in any western country. More so a guy called Jihad, for fucks sake. How this is even a question. In what clown world are we living?

 

[calico]

Police gunfire killing one of the victims is a headline-worthy development in the story I would say?

The attacker is ultimately responsible for the course of events which followed, but if half of the fatalities and injuries were a consequence of the police response, there will be lessons to learn there for sure. Arguably those lessons should have been learned already from the London Bridge attack where bullets ended up going through a bus (luckily not hitting anyone that time). 'Consider what is beyond your target' is so basic a rule (for anyone using a gun, not just pros) that it should be instinctive to people training for this day in and day out. That it was not here or at London Bridge is something which can be worked on in future.

I don't think the police will be (or should be) thrilled with how the response played out here. If we are taking the Grenfell approach again of 'not our fault this event happened, therefore it doesn't matter how we responded to it', that would be a mistake. It is not about assigning blame, but about doing better next time.

 

[Boo Who?]

The US has violent crime rates over 5 times the UK per capita. You might hear in the US about how knife crime in UK cities it out of control and how they are no go zones. But even though the US has easier access to guns the knife crime rate in London is not higher than major US cities.

That is because we bring guns to knife fights.

 

[Nicktendo86]

The story gets worse and worse at every turn. Father is a fucking surgeon in a council house (paid for by taxpayers) who celebrated October 7th. Murderer is a rapist out on bail. Every level of our government/justice system/police are failing the most basic task of protecting British citizens. It is much easier of course to police tweets or mean words, plus they all have bang up DEI and climate awareness training.

I can't help getting more and more angry, our leaders seem to genuinely hate us.

 

[clarky]

Farage weighs in.

 

[DeepEnigma]

how the fuck are you eligible for bail on a rape charge?

these leftoid judges in the UK and US have seriously fucked up the most basic function of government which is to keep its citizens safe.

at least you here in the US you can carry.

It's by design. To tear down the "trust" in the institutions.

Bolshevik playbook.

The Bolsheviks undermined public trust in existing institutions by portraying the Provisional Government and other groups as corrupt and ineffective, then seizing control through deception, propaganda, and force. Immediately upon taking power, they launched a campaign to destroy or consolidate former institutions, which included abolishing the Constituent Assembly, persecuting the Russian Orthodox Church, and suppressing other socialist factions.

 

[Three]

The US has 350 million people. The UK has 65 million. I would hope you have fewer murders. I always laugh when countries that are the size of one of our states are like "We have less crime than you". No shit, Sherlock, you are a fraction of our country.

Why are you telling me this? have you actually looked at it using per capita? Uk doesn't even chart it's so low on murders per capita:

Murder Rate by Country 2025

Detailed statistics on murder rate by country, giving insights into both the highest and lowest murder rates per one hundred thousand people.

worldpopulationreview.com

However, we have the means to defend ourselves, free speech (for now), and an administration that is trying to throw out everyone who doesn't belong here. Potentially even our famous Somali congresswomen. She is being investigated for falsifying immigration documents. She is also an absolute shit stain, and I will celebrate for at least two days if she is kicked the fuck out of here.

Oh sure, sure, carry on living however you think is best. Your country is far from good though when you use your own metrics, its worse than a lot of "third world" places and free speech my ass. You don't have it.

 

[JackHanma]

I am sure crown broadcasting companies will continue to warn the public against the rising violence perpetrated by white supremacists... The amount of gaslighting our government funded media apparatuses has conducted the last 25 years has been nothing short of treasonous. I don't know how anybody can believe the MSM, especially after the debacle of "weapons of mass destruction in Iraq".

 

[P:axMagellanic]

It's by design. To tear down the "trust" in the institutions.

Bolshevik playbook.

I've said before that we live under semi marxist criminology. Thought 'crimes' are seemingly treated way more harshly and out of all sense of kilter than violence, murders and rapes. The result is shit like this or Iryna. Seemingly every generation has to deal with these red weirdo's that don't know what the fuck they're talking about.

What? Didn't you hear?? It's actually not that much different now than it ever was in the past it's just social media noise and a few rogue politicians like Farage that make it seem worse than it really is!!!!!

Absolutely nothing to see here it's all just your imagination, Listening to Tommeh and Nige too much!!! You FAR RIGHT THUG.


Sadly some people actually believe what I just wrote some even in this very thread

I won't allow myself to be gaslit anymore by these sophists with ulterior motives. I deeply miss the country I grew up in.

 

[AJUMP23]

Terrorist being out on bail for rape is unbelievable.

 

[jason10mm]

Would you then unilaterally ban all Germanic or Christian peoples from immigrating into the country entirely?

What's the end goal here?

I would FOR SURE not admit the open Nazi who named his kid Hitler. Seems like a prudent measure to A. reduce the number of whack-job immigrants and B. keep your own streets safer and cleaner. Are you suggesting that open Nazis should get welcomed into America (barring extensive knowledge of rocketry, moon bases, necromancy, and poison gas, of course).

What is your "end goal" of immigration? Just allow anyone and everyone to pile in, loot the corpse of the host country, and then go find another one?

 

[Three]

Come on, you know full well that in 20 years this country has gone from relatively safe, well regarded and decent and is now on its way to an ungovernable hell, hence all the Draconian bullshit from successive rotten governments. A fundamentally different 'civilisation' compared to what we grew up in.

Ironically 20 years ago is the exact year of the London bombings. A very bad year. No I don't agree with the sky is falling fearmongering bullshit some people try to push because the data doesn't support it. Even the so called draconian "IDs" were a product of the Tony Blair era, an era that was again 21 years ago:

Blunkett claims ID cards will protect civil liberties

UK plans for a national, compulsory ID card scheme "will create a practical, simple and secure way for ordinary citizens to protect and prove their identity – not a Big Brother-style surveillance tool," said Home Secretary David Blunkett today.

www.pinsentmasons.com

So I call bullshit about how the UK is now somehow "unsafe". Not much has changed in terms of safety. Just the political bullshit people try to pedal online has risen to new heights.

Neds, chavs and Blunkett's bobbies wielding ASBO's are quaint in comparison to the anarchy running around these days.

What clinched the Brexit vote was the 400k Romanians that arrived within years of it opening up to the EU. Numbers now that are unfathomably low in cocomparison.

It was mainly Polish and Indian immigration.

Poland overtakes India as country of origin, UK migration statistics show

Poland overtakes India as the most common country of birth for UK immigrants as new statistics show estimated net migration remains close to record levels.

www.bbc.co.uk

EU and brexit pushed Polish even higher as they tried to make the cutoff period increasing numbers significantly in recent years. it is still mainly the same origin countries too, indian and polish.

immigration has slowed down since new laws lowered numbers very recently though including the deadline for EU applicants.