VF always had many more moves than Tekken, this tells us you don't know how to play the games. Unlike Tekken, you actually needed to spend time with a character to master him correctly. Tekken was always style over substance, but this is exactly what the new audience brought by Sony wanted, so Namco read that right.
I've been hearing this argument about Smash for 25 years and it never made any sense to me.
the Dreamcast baseball game with no fielding is bad, but the rest are good yes.
well, we have some different tastes, the important thing is respect and dialogue.
Yes thank you i know, i have played the game. And the fade-in is horrible (but of course it's only on other consoles where this is an issue, on Saturn we don't care about that).
pc version, nvidia.
In the real world, this fading effect was fine for the time and the console. Sonic R had a PC version with additional visual elements, and was released on the Sonic Gems collection.
If VF had more moves, it didnt show it because the games were so boring with players tapping each other doing the same moves over and over again. Hardly any characters too. And VF2 had a weird thing going on because when I played it, it seemed like the exact same sequence of fights. I remember when I played VF2, Lau would always be the first opponent. And the blonde girl would be second etc...
I don't know about NFL but the last NHL game is very good.
Nah, it always bothered me you can see the floor behind the fading environments. Pop-up/fade always has this look where objects materialize in front of you but in Sonic-R is far more noticeable and distracting because of that.
It's their choice of having an actual scenery rather than a completely blue/dark sky that bothers you. But the effect is clearly the best on the console and perfectly satisfactory for this generation.
That's Virgin's Powerplay Hockey which Sega simply bought the rights and rebranded it after Virgin didnt want to release on Saturn.I don't know about NFL but the last NHL game is very good.
Same for NBA and Soccer, all very good games. Also the Baseball game.
Ok, I thought it was fine. Not as good as NBA Action or Worldwide Soccer for sure.That's Virgin's Powerplay Hockey which Sega simply bought the rights and rebranded it after Virgin didnt want to release on Saturn.
It also got meh reviews.
NHL Powerplay 98 - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
NBA Action 98 reviews hard to find. But 6.8/10 on GS. Not good either.
I don't think even a 3D SOR would have sold well. That said SEGA really should have ported Golden Axe Revenge of Death Adder to the Saturn with multi tap support.
Thanks. I thought the Jp version of Streets Of Rage 3 was the best in the Series but the 2D market was in decline even in the Arcades. I loved Die Hard Arcade and also SpikeOut on the Xbox doesn't get enough credit, in 4 player mode on LIVE it was some of the bets fun I had on OG Xbox .
The problem with those old school beat em ups is how shallow and repetitive they were.
It was developed by Visual Concept which would make the 2K games that were all reviewed extremely well.
It is not just mechanics that do not line up, it is the rules dictating the winner and loser. It is the same kind of criteria that separates wrestling from fighting.
That is funny considering half the characters are clones in the first two Tekkens have bugger all worth using combo-wise except sweeps, 10-hit strings, and jab juggles after launcher (first version of VF2 is also guilty of the latter unfortunately). Virtua Fighter in contrast has a myriad of variation in moves with utility in mind. The greatness of VF is in having responsive and reactive counters to every tactic. Early Tekken is about dialing in a sequence and hoping it connects first.
That sounds cumbersome as ideally you have the whole polished tool set at your disposal from the start and it is only the difficulty of obstacles that increases. Length is not a strength of the genre but replayability is. The more you stretch it out the less replayable it is.
Saturn had tons more games than those 4, and we talking exclusives at that, if we putting it vs current gen consoles in current era we assume it has every multiplat game xbox/playstation has too.
It would sell much better than xbox one and xbox series, if u consider those 2 even bigger diseasters then yup, u can argue modern sega console could be diseaster too(aka not reach 80m units+ numbers, from my pov 50m+ consoles sold would be solid performance for sega platform, they dont need to be market leader right away to present us with high quality product, otherwise any1 else but ps2 would be considered diseastrous console back from 6th gen(they all sold very poorly) and we know tons of ppl hold all 6th gen consoles in high very high regard(myself included), despite their relatively small sales numbers.
It's not simple, you disregard how bad the Saturn was. Modern Sega has better games precisely because it abandoned its ties with the Saturn and Dreamcast.
Xbox series only sold so much because Microsoft lobbied for all multiplatform games. Since they have all the multiplatform games, all they have to do is lower the price and they'll find buyers.
I see this is making you agitated.
Yup, 1983-1995(ps1 launched sept 95 in both europe and us, so cant give 1995 to any1 else but ninny still) was nintendo home console market domination, which means they are kinda irrelevant for big stationary consoles for a while, personal opinion here, gcn was their last great stationary console(they had many amazing games after that gen too, just hardware wise gcn was last time ninny was and wanted to be competetive).
Here we go the review load of bullshit
VF will be out next year
and I love the way you left out Metaphor and the upcoming Project Century
I never had a Saturn but rented it a few times and played at a buddy's place. Never played NFL 97 but that is consistently a terribly rated game and going by YT videos seems worse than a 16-bit game. And Sega only made 1 Sega Sports NFL game too. Thats how bad it got.Here we go the review load of bullshit
SEGA Sports had a number of good games, not I imagine you bought or played many of them at the time
VF will be out next year
I dont diseagree with u on that, but to give even more insight:
) so i cant say how it looked in the states, but even as megadrive owner(and i love that console to this very day), snes still had upper hand that gen, not saying it was 90% to 10% like durning nes times obviously but ninny was market leader 4sure.
VF will be out next year
I yearn for the day Sega and some other companies under idiotic parent companies get bought out and turned private by some bored saudi royalty, that shit would make me convert to islamAnd here we go again! the weekly Sega console returns, buckle up!
I honestly think a Saturn mini or Dreamcast mini would outsell any new console Sega could go bankrupt releasing
Only way it could work is a Saudi Prince who just loves Sega ..
Wikipedia is full of incomplete and inaccurate numbers though. That 30 million figure is largely underestimated as South America is not included, and consoles sold after March 1996 are not included either.
I don't get what that's got to do with anything I said. I think the team will be happy with sales of 2 million mind.
So like I thought and its much the same story with people who look to bash the Mega-CD, 3DO. They've never owned it and even if they did, they played just a handful of games. And hey I get it, people can say the same of me, with rguards to PC-Eng. A system I only bought ready for the upcoming Strider on CD at the time and never bought a lot of games for it or played on it much .
3DO deserved better.....it was only the dumb pricing model that denied its success...otherwise it was well equipped enough to go toe-to-toe with the Saturn and PSX in their early years as compared to something like the CD32 and Jag...(and I never owned a 3DO)
Yeah, But the way people criticise it, you could swear they owned it and played every game on it.
NHL AS Hockey 98 is Powerplay 98. Same game, but Virgin didnt want to release it on Saturn so Sega licensed it and rebranded it as Sega Sports. And besides PS1 also had PP 98 too. So it's not just about quality of games, but how does it compare to Sony sports games. The SI/989 sports games were way better and more of them too. Aside from WS 98, the rest of Saturn Sega Sports NFL, NBA, MLB and NHL games were junk compared to PS1.
