Valve enters the console wars [The Verge]

I think the Steam Machine is a PC that is functionally identical to a console, unlike a regular PC. That's the appeal.
Consoles with OS and UIs are that are functioning more like PCs, not the other way around. Their UIs use including, ding ding, "windows"... 🤷‍♂️
 
Valve enters the console wars [The Verge]
No, they aren't entering the console wars.

They're just releasing another Steam Machine, which like the previous one isn't a console and won't affect the console market because it's a PC and will only sell only a few millions units like the Steamdeck (or less).

I think the Steam Machine is a PC that is functionally identical to a console, unlike a regular PC. That's the appeal.
It's a PC, and like in the other PCs and unlike in consoles you'll have to continue worrying about updating drivers, if the newly released game supports or runs decently on your hardware specs, you'll have to spend a lot of time fine tuning game settings to find the most optimal settings, you'll have to mess with game stores or launchers not ready for tvs and configurate these external games to add them to the launcher, won't be able to run there games with certain anti-cheat, etc.

In console you just turn on the device, downloads the game and play it. Maximum you choose between a couple visual setting profiles, every few months have a single quick install of the firmware to update all the drivers and so on, and that's all.

SteamOS is doing a great job to achive a more console-like experience, and this device I assume means they'll do more extra related efforts, but as of today still are far from it. I think the next big step they should do would be to get proper support of the games with certain anti-cheat systems and a better and more seamless import system for games from other storefronts.
 
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I think I'd need that colored drawing to follow what you are saying, but it's all good.
You can't play almost all games ever "out of the box" (this expression is silly but wasn't me bringing it 🤷‍♂️) on a Steam Deck, right?

But you can play almost all games if you use options that the Deck allows you, options that are not exactly "out of the box", right??
 
It will never take off with console casuals they just don't understand pc gaming and steam. This is for PC gamers who want some semi console pc like experience they can plug into their TV in the living room. Niche basically.
 
You can't play almost all games ever "out of the box" (this expression is silly but wasn't me bringing it 🤷‍♂️) on a Steam Deck, right?

But you can play almost all games if you use options that the Deck allows you, options that are not exactly "out of the box", right??

I guess I'm not understanding the "out of the box" part. I don't have to do anything for most games on Steam OS. They just work
 
I guess I'm not understanding the "out of the box" part. I don't have to do anything for most games on Steam OS. They just work
From what I understand they are using this expression meaning "with little to no tinkering" or your "they just works".

WoW or Genshin Impact, for example, don't just works on Deck.
 
From what I understand they are using this expression meaning "with little to no tinkering" or your "they just works".

WoW or Genshin Impact, for example, don't just works on Deck.

Ah....ok. I don't know the numbers of games that 'just work' vs those that need tinkering. Most of my games are pretty straightforward single player and such. I can imagine other games like what you are talking about needing tinkering.
 
Ah....ok. I don't know the numbers of games that 'just work' vs those that need tinkering. Most of my games are pretty straightforward single player and such. I can imagine other games like what you are talking about needing tinkering.
Genshin Impact makes me fight with the virtual keyboard that normally doesn't stays "in front" of the game window. 🤦‍♂️
 
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