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Monitoring the situation in Iran

This made me think that we're all just ants in this, only being able to choose the "leader" ants we want to follow.

Most of the time, we can only hope for the best...
 
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Cyberpunkd said:
I never understood why US had such a beef with Iran of all places, but if you consider Israel is its sworn enemy, and American politicians overwhelmingly treat Israel as a promised land in your childish understanding of Christian religion - congrats , you just plunged another region into total mess because old fucks you elect are high on Messianism cool aid.
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Rentahamster said:
Imagine if we instead spent that on child care assistance for working families. Or job training for our out of work and undereducated citizens. Or financial assistance for our farmers and manufacturers who are on the verge of bankruptcy. Or another James Webb Space Telescope. Or treatment and health care for our wounded and PTSD-stricken veterans from our previous silly wars.
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You'll find that amount of money doesn't go that far.

Plus, the US gets to enjoy its wealth partly because of its military might.
 
Cyberpunkd said:
I never understood why US had such a beef with Iran of all places, but if you consider Israel is its sworn enemy, and American politicians overwhelmingly treat Israel as a promised land in your childish understanding of Christian religion - congrats , you just plunged another region into total mess because old fucks you elect are high on Messianism cool aid.
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You should probably try educating yourself before commenting on things you admit you don't understand.
 
Dirk Benedict said:
Bro has to run just so he can catch up with his tomahawk brother.

SHIT! I remember seeing these being tested, some time ago... that air bubble is what lifts the ship so high. Kinetic energy being transfered?
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Just like boxers and ball players as an example. Getting your legs like tree trunks to produce more kinetic energy behind the punch or fastball. 💪
 
For the torpedo, looking at the upward movement of that ship, that sent crew flying upward. Would not be shocked if some of them died from broken necks or knocked unconscious because it looks violent from a distance and that's nothing like being there.
 
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Romulus said:
For the torpedo, looking at the upward movement of that ship, that sent crew flying upward. Would not be shocked if some of them died from broken necks or knocked unconscious because it looks violent from a distance and that's nothing like being there.
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The energy sent through that ship would shatter entire skeletal bodies, my brother.
 
Romulus said:
I think it depends how close you are to the blast, but I agree even in the best case its probably breaking something. Crazy part is there's probably video footage of it inside.
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True, but the closer they are to that epicenter, the more damage to materials/flesh/bone. The Ships sturdy material was torn apart like paper. That's how powerful that tiny bubble's release is.
 
Dirk Benedict said:
True, but the closer they are to that epicenter, the more damage to materials/flesh/bone. The Ships sturdy material was torn apart like paper. That's how powerful that tiny bubble's release is.
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Oh yeah, crew close to that were vaporized and even beyond that I'd say were shattered to the core. Actually horrible to think about. But I wouldn't be shocked though if some people in lucky spots survived the blast and drowned later/eaten by sharks. Indian ocean has plenty.

Actually being in the Navy people think is some step back from "combat" but god damn if they don't have some of the most horrific ways of dying.
 
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Romulus said:
Oh yeah, crew close to that were vaporized and even beyond that I'd say were shattered to the core. Actually horrible to think about. But I wouldn't be shocked though if some people in lucky spots survived the blast and drowned later/eaten by sharks. Indian ocean has plenty.

Actually being in the Navy people think is some step back from "combat" but god damn if they don't have some of the most horrific ways of dying.
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The Luck of circumstance!
 
Dirk Benedict said:
Not going to argue semantics. The writing on the wall was installing more air defense in Arab countries in the Middle East.
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That takes time. There's people there who are there on business, family vacations, etc. There should have been a plan in place once the strikes began, like immediately. The administration had no plan because the Americans on the ground weren't important... Just the attack.
 
DeafTourette said:
IMO, this is too little, too late. A plan should have been drawn up in case of retaliation.

"Oh get out of the region we just started a war in"
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Think this through.

The US and Israel successfully decapitated the snake with almost surgical precision because of real time intelligence putting all these goons, who are beyond redemption, where they needed to be for the mission to work. That means they needed to move fast. And we all know what would happened if too many people knew of this opportunity in advance. It would have leaked.

Should the US work to bring our people home? Yes, 100%, no doubt, total agreement. But let's call the balls and strikes honestly!
 
winjer said:
Iran spent 5 decades saying it will destroy the USA.
Now that they lost the war in a matter of days, they claim it's unfair.

I Dont Care Deal With It GIF
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What does lost the war mean here exactly?
Because the same government is still in power.

Edit: Also funny how people flip flop between '' it's a war '' and '' it's a special military operation ''.
If it's a war then he should've gotten approval from congress that's why they try and paint up this image that it's not a war even tho they're too stupid to stick to it and let it slip and call it a war themselves.

This whole idea tho that the US has won the war already is just repeating the same mistakes of the past, if you actually want to win here it's going to be a very long war and involve ground troops.
Which I doubt there's any actual appetite for.
 
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DeafTourette said:
That takes time. There's people there who are there on business, family vacations, etc. There should have been a plan in place once the strikes began, like immediately. The administration had no plan because the Americans on the ground weren't important... Just the attack.
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There were many, leave now orders issued and do not travel notices. I am sure if you go to an embassy in any of these countries they will work with you to get you out. But I would not publish an exit plan because that is strategy.
 
Tams said:

Well that didn't take long.

Unsurprisingly at this point though, the UK is still coming off worse despite capitulating earlier.
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Honestly tho why should any Europeans help the US here when the US was threatening to invade Greenland a few weeks ago and is continuing with its aggression towards Europe?

Also no one should trust anything that comes out of Leavitt's mouth this admin are a bunch of chronic liars and will just say that there has been a deal struck when in reality nothing has happened or changed.
Maybe they have maybe they haven't but Leavitt isn't exactly a trustworthy source.

Also per usual Trump with the trade war threats, can't get anything done without threatening people.
Then people wonder why European and US relations are becoming increasingly worse.
 
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NickFire said:
Think this through.

The US and Israel successfully decapitated the snake with almost surgical precision because of real time intelligence putting all these goons, who are beyond redemption, where they needed to be for the mission to work. That means they needed to move fast. And we all know what would happened if too many people knew of this opportunity in advance. It would have leaked.

Should the US work to bring our people home? Yes, 100%, no doubt, total agreement. But let's call the balls and strikes honestly!
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I'm not saying announce it beforehand or anything, but have a PLAN to get them out.

And we're in agreement, they should be working to get them out instead of leaving them to their own devices to try to leave.
 
DeafTourette said:
I'm not saying announce it beforehand or anything, but have a PLAN to get them out.

And we're in agreement, they should be working to get them out instead of leaving them to their own devices to try to leave.
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That kind of plan involves a much wider net of people than those involved in the strikes. May not have been practical to even discuss it and maintain secrecy.
 
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