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Monitoring the situation in Iran

ChuckeRearmed said:
I expect some troops on the ground, but not the standard ground invasion - the logistics are not there and there are no indication of that. I do expect though some special forces operations in specific spots and areas (secure specific locations like the Kharg Island, oil fields and the Strait of Hormuz). It remains to be seen after the current second phase that has just started. Israel and USA bombed a lot of military installations and now they are bombing energy infrastructure. At one point I expect Trump and co. to call people to rise up if they want to bring a change. If iranians will decide at that time not to do that, it will be on them though as I would not be surprised if balochs, kurds, azeri will start doing something. Maybe even afghani and others. With kurds, turks might be involved too turning it into a regional conflct on a wider scale.
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Yeah, I think this is the plan, too.
 
DeepEnigma said:
These have historical significance.

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What about this
 
DeepEnigma said:
He has two bronze stars. Keep going though, keep trying to mitigate his military career.

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What? 90% of the success of any military is bureaucracy and it seems he did a great at it (although not with neccesarily great eventual outcomes). You were the one demeaning bureaucrats like him.
 
Rentahamster said:
Scenario 1: Quietly supporting and funding a secular, pro-democracy uprising in Iran that can undermine the theocracy's political and economic power over time and eventually replace it?
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Come on man. The people of Iran already wanted this regime out and got shot for even suggesting it.

Quietly support an uprising over time...this isn't a place where everyone is allowed to think what they want, allowing you to BS under the radar like Russia loves to do in democratic places.
 
poppabk said:
What? 90% of the success of any military is bureaucracy and it seems he did a great at it (although not with neccesarily great eventual outcomes). You were the one demeaning bureaucrats like him.
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Fair enough. It's when there's no accountability and the erosion of effectiveness is where it becomes an issue. And has been for some time.

I personally don't think he is like the typical ones of the recent past, but time will tell.
 
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DeepEnigma said:
Fair enough. It's when there's no accountability and the erosion of effectiveness is where it becomes an issue. And has been for some time.

I personally don't think he is like the typical ones of the recent past, but time will tell.
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Is there someone who is militarily competent

AND

Does not break the UCMJ on a regular basis, sending a signal to the world that these are the standards of the greatest country you are expected to live up to

Because that'd be great
 
BlackTron said:
Come on man. The people of Iran already wanted this regime out and got shot for even suggesting it.

Quietly support an uprising over time...this isn't a place where everyone is allowed to think what they want, allowing you to BS under the radar like Russia loves to do in democratic places.
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It wasn't going to be easy, but bombing them makes a popular democratic uprising less likely, not more likely.
 
Warspite said:
In all fairness they have help reduced Americas weapon stockpiles by quite a lot. :pie_thinking:
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If only there was a country so damned good, wether you like it or not, at replenishing their weaponry.

Probably one of the few things they do very, very efficiently besides voting to protect each other in the one big club.
 
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Rentahamster said:
It wasn't going to be easy, but bombing them makes a popular democratic uprising less likely, not more likely.
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Your scenario has already played out. Not sure what the difference would be -in your version, we convince them to rise up into machine gun fire, which they already did of their own volition? Didn't work, then we went in. Unless there are more differences, but it's unrealistic to think we could prepare a secret civilian force in Iran that was armed getting ready for a democratic takeover without anyone finding out.
 
L*][*N*K said:
Last night my city got hit by a drone, nothing major just an old US army base that was abandoned like 13 years ago, and that is Iranian intelligence for you while the Mosad knows where the Ayatollah is taking a shit they attack a building that no one has used for 13 years
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The same base got attacked again, like no one is there it is just annoyance at this point. Hey Ayatulla or whoever of you is left in Iran if you are reading this NO ONE IS IN THAT BUILDING, YOU ARE ATTACKING NO ONE LET US SLEEP IN PEACE!
 
L*][*N*K said:
The same base got attacked again, like no one is there it is just annoyance at this point. Hey Ayatulla or whoever of you is left in Iran if you are reading this NO ONE IS IN THAT BUILDING, YOU ARE ATTACKING NO ONE LET US SLEEP IN PEACE!
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The IRGC doesn't have an effective chain of command anymore so they're sending drones and munitions haphazardly. Stay safe out there.
 
Svalr93 said:
According to some people here Iran is leaderless so then who is supposed to surrender?
People shouldn't underestimate religious zeal, I don't think there's a lack of people wanting to become martyrs.


Even if someone steps forward to negotiate a surrender you'd have to get the whole country in on it including the most radical groups, otherwise how are you going to keep the peace and stability?
The answer to that is boots on the ground but no one wants to tackle or acknowledge that.
This isn't like Nazi Germany that had one command structure where this one general can just take over and decide and everyone follows even if it's the next supreme leader doing it that supreme leader would actually have to have their respect and trust too which is hard to believe they'd get if they started floating around surrender.
You'd basically start a civil war at best.
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Trump just shot themselves in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about Iranian culture (I'm an expert), but religious zeal and martyrs are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Nazi Germany where you can become successful by being one general that decides to take over. If you try to take over in Iran, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is Civil War.
What this means is the iranian public, after hearing about this, is not going to want to purchase Freedom from either America or Israel, nor will they build any of Trump's hotels. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Trump has alienated an entire market with this move.

Trump, publicly apologize and cancel World War 3 for Middle East or you can kiss your real estate empire goodbye.
 
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Either US or Israel are now bombing desalination plants in Iran. The aim is literally to starve Iranians who depend on that water. The US is using the same tactics as Russia in Ukraine when the Russian army takes out power plants in the middle of winter to make Ukrainians suffer. smh



Iran's foreign minister Abbas Araghchi is claiming the U.S. struck a freshwater desalination plant on Qeshm Island in southern Iran near the Strait of Hormuz.

The U.S. has not confirmed it. But honestly, confirmed or not, the conversation we are now having is scarier than the strike itself

Because look at these numbers. 90% of Kuwait's water comes from desalination. 86% Oman. 70% Saudi Arabia. 42% UAE. This region has almost no natural freshwater. These plants are not just infrastructure. They are life support.

We have watched this conflict move from military bases to oil fields to data centers. And now we are talking about water. The one thing every single person needs to survive, regardless of which side they are on.

A missile hitting a base is war. Millions of people waking up with no water is something else entirely.





 
winjer said:
I didn't even know it had a nickname. I guess, it's kinda fat looking....
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I didn't either until I saw some US pilots call it that when they were commenting on a video with the danish F35s flying with SAAB Gripens in a Christmas formation last year. 😉

Edit: Here is the video if anyone cares.

 
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kruis said:
Either US or Israel are now bombing desalination plants in Iran. The aim is literally to starve Iranians who depend on that water. The US is using the same tactics as Russia in Ukraine when the Russian army takes out power plants in the middle of winter to make Ukrainians suffer. smh
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It must be true.
 
Destroying desalination plants? Wow, that's low.
This comes to prove that one of the reasons for this war is false (freeing the people of Iran).

I'm getting really worried about the dangerous path this war is taking.

Oil prices are going to the roof very soon like we have never seen before.

I just hope china doesn't get involved in this shit show.
 
Svalr93 said:
Like every single thing this administration does is either unseemly and/or lying and obfuscating.
I wonder how many of the same people who cheer this on are also the same people who get very concerned all of the sudden when they see footage of Russian soldiers being blown up by drones.
Worth remembering too that Iran has mandatory military service from the age of 18, so we're not just talking about super radical Ayatollah worshipers here.
When they get blown up it's also young men who are forced to serve regardless of their feelings on the government.

Remember this is coming from the self-proclaimed '' great respecter of life '' in chief, the guy who cares '' more than anyone else '' about human life and suffering according to himself.



And people still concern troll about Biden's mental health.
Wtf is that tweet, seriously?

Edit: Also he contradicts himself in the same tweet.
He says they've surrendered, and then he goes on to say '' until they surrender ''.
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But, the dow....
 
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