-
Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!
Monitoring the situation in Iran
- Thread starter EviLore
- Start date
So once the middle east is destroyed, US will stop giving Israel upwards of 3.3billion per year right.
They have certainly afford the cost of free college and universal healthcare on their own.
Maybe we can get the free college and healthcare with the $3+ billion per year savings.
They have certainly afford the cost of free college and universal healthcare on their own.
Maybe we can get the free college and healthcare with the $3+ billion per year savings.
StueyDuck
Member
Theres plenty of reasons why WW2 happened.
Im just saying that user telling the other user they are wrong because "because Austrian painter was elected" shows a fundamental misunderstanding of world events and shows the cartoonish history being taught to people.
There's loads of dictators before and after Hitler. There was absolutely more factors involved in the world war breaking out in such a scale besides him purely being a dictator.
Last edited:
Wildebeest
Member
Don't you mean to say you could give the Epstein class $10 billion a year in reduced tax and raise the US deficit by $7 billion?
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Iran before 1979:
Iran after:
millions of deaths for the most nonsensical of things like being gay or being a woman in the wrong place.
you do you but I very much disagree with you. It has to end.
Last edited:
Vestal
Junior Member
Agreed.
if people actually paid attention to history we wouldn't be in this mess right now.
MidGenRefresh
Banned
Iran before 1979:
Iran after:
millions of deaths for the most nonsensical of things like being gay or being a woman in the wrong place.
you do you but I very much disagree with you. It has to end.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is what propaganda does to you.
Actual Iran:
Last edited:
Kilau
Member
RoboFu
One of the green rats
my daughters best friend's Iran immigrate family would call that you tube channel propaganda.. They are so glad something is being done.
Iranian law mandates strict gender-based discrimination under a framework influenced by Sharia law, enforcing compulsory hijab, requiring male guardian permission for travel/work, and granting women unequal rights in marriage, divorce, and inheritance
. Women face significant legal restrictions on employment, personal freedoms, and protection from violence.
Wikipedia +2
Key Legal Restrictions for Women in Iran
- Mandatory Hijab: Women are legally required to wear a hijab in public. Violations result in fines, potential arrests, and the use of technology like facial recognition, Wikipedia.
- Marriage and Divorce:The legal marriage age for girls is 13, though younger with permission
. Women generally cannot divorce easily, while men have unilateral rights. - Guardianship and Travel: Married women often need permission from husbands for passports and travel.
- Legal Testimony and Inheritance: In many cases, a woman's testimony is worth half that of a man's, and daughters inherit half the share of sons.
- Employment: Husbands can legally prevent wives from working if the job is deemed incompatible with family interests.
- Violence Against Women: There are no specific laws criminalizing domestic violence or sexual harassment.
Wikipedia +2
Also if you watch his videos.. all the young girls wearing hijabs are escorted by a male and wear pants or leggings. thats showing us!
Reza and Mahsa Travellers
is a YouTube channel featuring a husband-and-wife duo that documents daily life, travel, and food across Iran.
While they present themselves as independent travel vloggers, their content is frequently categorized as soft-power propaganda by critics due to several factors:
- Counter-Narrative Focus: Their videos often feature titles like "The Reality Western Media Won't Show" and "You Won't Believe This Is Iran," which align with state-promoted efforts to project an image of normalcy, modernity, and stability.
- Avoidance of Politics: The content strictly avoids sensitive topics such as government crackdowns, internet censorship, or compulsory hijab laws.
- Operational Freedom: Critics point out that YouTube is officially blocked in Iran. High-quality, consistent uploading of pro-government-style content often requires VPN access or state tolerance that is rarely extended to critical independent creators.
- Production Style: Their videos focus on historical landmarks (Persepolis, Vakil Mosque), modern cityscapes in Tehran, and street food, emphasizing the country's beauty and hospitality while ignoring its internal conflicts.
YouTube +12
Last edited:
Jaybe
Member
Actual Iran, 1 month ago:
Disappeared bodies, mass burials and ‘30,000 dead’: what is the truth of Iran’s death toll?
Testimony from medics, morgue and graveyard staff reveals huge state effort to conceal systematic killing of protesters
www.theguardian.com
Estimates of the number killed vary substantially, hampered by the ongoing internet shutdown. The Iranian government has acknowledged more than 3,000 dead, and the US-based organisation HRANA (Human Rights Activists News Agency), whose figures have been reliable during previous crackdowns, says it has verified more than 6,000 dead and has more than 17,000 more recorded deaths under investigation, giving a possible total of about 22,000. Other estimates from doctors based outside Iran range up to 33,000 or more.
Quietly, Ahmadi [who remains anonymous due to fear of reprisals, but whose identity, credentials and presence within Iran during the unrest have been verified by the Guardian] and his wife began treating patients at a location outside Iran's government hospital system. Alerted by a local whisper network, wounded young people flocked to them. Mostly, they brought superficial injuries – laceration wounds needing stitches and antibiotics. As Thursday evening wore on, more and more arrived to be patched up.
The next day, everything abruptly changed. Protesters kept coming, but their injuries were close-range gunshots and severe stab wounds, typically to the chest, eyes and genitals. Many proved fatal.
Ahmadi was shocked by the number being killed – more than 40 in his small town alone – but with the internet blacked out, no one knew what the national picture was. To piece it together, Ahmadi assembled a network of more than 80 medical professionals across 12 of Iran's 31 provinces to share observations and data, and to build a clearer picture of the violence.
They've mass murdered people. No one can imagine … I saw just blood, blood and blood
MidGenRefresh
Banned
my daughters best friend's Iran immigrate family would call that you tube channel propaganda.. They are so glad something is being done.
Iranian law mandates strict gender-based discrimination under a framework influenced by Sharia law, enforcing compulsory hijab, requiring male guardian permission for travel/work, and granting women unequal rights in marriage, divorce, and inheritance
. Women face significant legal restrictions on employment, personal freedoms, and protection from violence.
Wikipedia +2
Key Legal Restrictions for Women in Iran
- Mandatory Hijab: Women are legally required to wear a hijab in public. Violations result in fines, potential arrests, and the use of technology like facial recognition, Wikipedia.
- Marriage and Divorce:The legal marriage age for girls is 13, though younger with permission
. Women generally cannot divorce easily, while men have unilateral rights.
- Guardianship and Travel: Married women often need permission from husbands for passports and travel.
- Legal Testimony and Inheritance: In many cases, a woman's testimony is worth half that of a man's, and daughters inherit half the share of sons.
- Employment: Husbands can legally prevent wives from working if the job is deemed incompatible with family interests.
- Violence Against Women: There are no specific laws criminalizing domestic violence or sexual harassment.
Wikipedia +2
Ah yeah the classic "my uncle works at Nintendo" kind of argument. It's their law. You don't have to understand it, like it, or approve it. I'm very critical of Islam both in real life, and historically here on this forum. I think it has no place in the West and that these two cultures should never mix. But that doesn't give Israel and their puppet US, an excuse to stir shit up in the Middle East every other year, causing far more suffering than whatever anti-gay law exists there. Enough is enough.
Actual Iran, 1 month ago:
Disappeared bodies, mass burials and ‘30,000 dead’: what is the truth of Iran’s death toll?
Testimony from medics, morgue and graveyard staff reveals huge state effort to conceal systematic killing of protesters
Estimates of the number killed vary substantially, hampered by the ongoing internet shutdown. The Iranian government has acknowledged more than 3,000 dead, and the US-based organisation HRANA (Human Rights Activists News Agency), whose figures have been reliable during previous crackdowns, says it has verified more than 6,000 dead and has more than 17,000 more recorded deaths under investigation, giving a possible total of about 22,000. Other estimates from doctors based outside Iran range up to 33,000 or more.
Quietly, Ahmadi [who remains anonymous due to fear of reprisals, but whose identity, credentials and presence within Iran during the unrest have been verified by the Guardian] and his wife began treating patients at a location outside Iran's government hospital system. Alerted by a local whisper network, wounded young people flocked to them. Mostly, they brought superficial injuries – laceration wounds needing stitches and antibiotics. As Thursday evening wore on, more and more arrived to be patched up.
The next day, everything abruptly changed. Protesters kept coming, but their injuries were close-range gunshots and severe stab wounds, typically to the chest, eyes and genitals. Many proved fatal.
Ahmadi was shocked by the number being killed – more than 40 in his small town alone – but with the internet blacked out, no one knew what the national picture was. To piece it together, Ahmadi assembled a network of more than 80 medical professionals across 12 of Iran's 31 provinces to share observations and data, and to build a clearer picture of the violence.
They've mass murdered people. No one can imagine … I saw just blood, blood and blood
It's a tragedy, regardless of how many people were actually killed. Try storming the White House to overthrow Trump's administration and see how it would end up for you.
Last edited:
delirium trigger
Member
It's amazing how many westerners peddle pro-iranian propaganda around here.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
took you long enough. doesn't matter who I know .. the facts are out there.
now go back and read the rest of my post there are strict laws against YouTube in Iran that the channel that was posted oddly doesn't have to abide by. I wonder why...
kittoo
Cretinously credulous
I bought an EV in June 25 just cause I loved the car. Didn't expect to see it benefitting me in other ways.
I do have a secondary Jeep Compass which uses gas. I don't use it much but I guess I should get its tank filled soon since our government hasnt yet increased the prices.
MidGenRefresh
Banned
took you long enough. doesn't matter who I know .. the facts are out there.
now go back and read the rest of my post there are strict laws against YouTube in Iran that the channel that was posted oddly doesn't have to abide by. I wonder why...
I don't know who to believe… my own lying eyes, that can see hundreds of YouTube videos showing what the streets of Iran actually look like… or your attempt at amplifying propaganda by showing an image of two women from God knows where wearing full burkas.
Such a difficult dilemma.
Yeah, let's go with the burka image and fuck them savages. Let's bomb them to pieces like Lindsey Graham says, blow up their oil depots next to the capital, and cover the sky and water with chemicals that will cause tens of thousands more early deaths from cancer and other diseases. This will win their heart and souls and will stop calling US the great devil. I'm sure of it.
Fucking idiots.
Jaybe
Member
Read the article because if you equate the Iran protest in university towns and many other regions to "storming the White House", you're a complete fucking moron further proven by Jan 6th was a "storming" of the capitol building and had a small number of fatalities.
MidGenRefresh
Banned
If you're calling the January 6th "storming of the Capitol" that, you are a complete moron. Oh, hold on, you're not, since you put "storming" in quotation marks, so what's your point?
Whatever happens internally in Iran is their business, and it doesn't give "Israel" or the US the right to bomb the country to pieces. There are countless brutal regimes, far more brutal than the worst reports coming from Iran, and not a peep from Americans. Why's that? Ask yourself. Maybe there's some other agenda than "liberating the people."
I wonder what false guarantees the foreign intelligence agencies at play gave to the poor Iranians who thought they could 'overthrow' their government. That shit wouldn't fly anywhere in the world. Would the US accept protesters gearing up to overthrow the government? Like, seriously preparing to do it? Of course not, they would be hunted and charged with domestic terrorism. We have exactly the same rules here, just different punishments. I don't agree with any of it, and I don't want to repeat myself that I'm critical of Islam and their laws, but fucking hell, just leave them alone and maybe we can live in peace.
The US is shocked that they are called the great devil. Like, did you ask yourself why Canada, for example, is not called that, and why not a single country in the Middle East has a problem with them? Stop supporting Israel, stop bombing their homelands, and maybe we can have some peace.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Guys, you're looking for traitors in the wrong place.
I can't decide who, between Graham and Ted Cruz, has the more punchable face.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
The entire city of Tehran, 10m+ civilians, is currently under a black cloud of toxic, poisonous, oil-ridden "black rain" after Israel bombed their oil depots there. Millions of innocent people will be suffering or dying because of this.
There is literally no excuse. Evil.
Last edited:
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Yeah, the civilians are feeling the worst of it.
‘Dark, like our future’: Iranians describe scenes of catastrophe after Tehran’s oil depots bombed
Residents report terror of smoke-filled city, from potentially toxic rain, air and water to food scarcity and difficulty of escape
www.theguardian.com
Toons
Member
Gas in my neighborhood has gone up about 50 cents per gallon, if not more in the last few weeks. No exaggeration, early February it was like 3.11 and currently it's hovering around 3.70.
Those midterms are going to be a bloodbath.
Senua
Member
LordCBH
Gold Member
This time last week (near my house): $2.35/gal (Regular)
This morning: $3.29/gal
Bloodbath will be an understatement if these prices get worse. If they keep going up, I'm seriously concerned I'll have issues with my commute into work because I'm poor.
IlGialloMondadori
Member
Winning hearts and minds, liberating the people.Yeah, the civilians are feeling the worst of it.
‘Dark, like our future’: Iranians describe scenes of catastrophe after Tehran’s oil depots bombed
Residents report terror of smoke-filled city, from potentially toxic rain, air and water to food scarcity and difficulty of escape
No one in their right mind liked the Iranian regime or what was going on there. Unfortunately, it's not clear, at this point, that the actions currently being taken will help. It's also extremely possible that it will simply make things worse, for the people inside Iran, and for the rest of the world.
It's similar to immigration. People want it under control. That's great. But if you put incompetent people in charge of the operation, incompetent things will happen. Hegseth is the Kristi Noem of war.
You sure there will be midterms?
Last edited:
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
thefool
Member
I have noticed a lot of new users or dormant accounts being very active on political threads. Coincidence
Wildebeest
Member
Oh its good to know nobody has to worry about rising prices and shortages because Trump is going to pay for it all out of pocket. That's what he said right?
Toons
Member
There will be. Whether they want there to be or not.
thefool
Member
The west has been infiltrated, that's really all it boils down to. Political parties, courts, academia, newspapers, institutions.
Last edited:
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
I remember when this happened in 2004. Sick demons.
www.abc.net.au
Atefah Rajabi Sahaaleh was a 16-year-old Iranian girl from Neka, Mazandaran Province, executed on August 15, 2004, for charges of adultery and "crimes against chastity" under Iran's Islamic penal code.
She was arrested multiple times for similar charges, beginning at age 13, after being discovered in a car with a boy. Following a police raid, she was jailed and sentenced to 100 lashes. While in prison, she alleged she was tortured and raped by guards. Her father later stated she was forced to care for her elderly grandparents after her mother died in a car crash and her father became an addict.
In 2003, she was arrested again and accused of adultery after being raped by Ali Darabi, a 51-year-old married former revolutionary guard. During her trial, she confessed under duress and revealed the abuse. When the judge, Haji Rezai, ignored her claims and sentenced her to death, she removed her hijab and threw her shoes at him in protest. The Supreme Court upheld the sentence, despite her actual age being 16—confirmed by her birth certificate and death certificate—while officials claimed she was 22.
Her execution drew international condemnation. Amnesty International declared it a crime against humanity, and the case became a symbol of Iran's failure to uphold its obligations under the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) and the Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC). In the aftermath, Iranian media reported that Judge Rezai and several militia members were arrested, and the Supreme Court posthumously pardoned her.
Documentaries by the BBC and Discovery Times highlighted her story, and her case remains a key example of systemic injustice and the dangers faced by minors in Iran's judicial system. Her grave was reportedly disturbed, and her body has not been found.
Execution of a Teenage Girl
Four Corners is the home of Australian investigative journalism.
www.abc.net.au
Atefah Rajabi Sahaaleh was a 16-year-old Iranian girl from Neka, Mazandaran Province, executed on August 15, 2004, for charges of adultery and "crimes against chastity" under Iran's Islamic penal code.
She was arrested multiple times for similar charges, beginning at age 13, after being discovered in a car with a boy. Following a police raid, she was jailed and sentenced to 100 lashes. While in prison, she alleged she was tortured and raped by guards. Her father later stated she was forced to care for her elderly grandparents after her mother died in a car crash and her father became an addict.
In 2003, she was arrested again and accused of adultery after being raped by Ali Darabi, a 51-year-old married former revolutionary guard. During her trial, she confessed under duress and revealed the abuse. When the judge, Haji Rezai, ignored her claims and sentenced her to death, she removed her hijab and threw her shoes at him in protest. The Supreme Court upheld the sentence, despite her actual age being 16—confirmed by her birth certificate and death certificate—while officials claimed she was 22.
Her execution drew international condemnation. Amnesty International declared it a crime against humanity, and the case became a symbol of Iran's failure to uphold its obligations under the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR) and the Convention on the Rights of the Child (CRC). In the aftermath, Iranian media reported that Judge Rezai and several militia members were arrested, and the Supreme Court posthumously pardoned her.
Documentaries by the BBC and Discovery Times highlighted her story, and her case remains a key example of systemic injustice and the dangers faced by minors in Iran's judicial system. Her grave was reportedly disturbed, and her body has not been found.
Last edited:
calico
Member
A President is supposed to be able to look beyond what is good for himself or his party at the next election.
In terms of immediate domestic political concerns, obviously the smart thing to do would be to do nothing and let future America worry about the consequences of Iran acquiring nuclear weapons.
In terms of immediate domestic political concerns, obviously the smart thing to do would be to do nothing and let future America worry about the consequences of Iran acquiring nuclear weapons.
Sakura
Member
Bro the US runs an annual deficit of like almost 2 trillion dollars. You ain't getting anything if they cut money to Israel.
Susurrus
Member
I have both electric (ID4) and gas (Jetta) cars. I just filled my Jetta up this weekend. Looks like I know which car I'll be using more though.
I've been contemplating getting rid of owning gas cars altogether. I've held onto the Jetta because it's a car I bought in 2014 new and has held strong, it'd cost more to replace it than the amount I pay in gas. However, this summer we'll be in a situation to just go down to one car and my wife keeps pushing that since she'll no longer have to drive our kids to school (their new schools next school year are in walking distance, and we have transit access) so that's how it may end up going down if she has her way.
Last edited:
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
took you long enough. doesn't matter who I know .. the facts are out there.
now go back and read the rest of my post there are strict laws against YouTube in Iran that the channel that was posted oddly doesn't have to abide by. I wonder why...
There are hundreds of "Walking in Tehran" or "Walking tour Iran 4K" videos that have random Iranian youtubers filming street scenes in Tehran that show girls/women wearing modern clothing and often not wearing head scarves. The sheer number of them makes it clear they're not staged or anything by the Iranian government. The image that Iran is another Afghanistan where all women are covered up from head to toe and are treated like cattle is simply false.
Another thing, I had no idea that there were still Christian in Iran. There's an Armenian part of Tehran where they celebrate Christmas and where shops show christmas trees and Santa Claus figures. That was surprising.
But the idea that these videos are representative for all Iran is not true either. What those "walking in Tehran" usually show are street scenes from well-to-do parts of Tehran with luxury shopping centers that are visited by the Iran middle and upper class who are not harassed by the morality police. Things are different outside of the big cities and the country side where you'll see many, many, many more women dressed in black.
By the way, this PBS documentary by Dutch journalist Thomas Erdbrink about life in Iran is a must-see if you want to learn about the dichotomy between the life of modern Iranians and the religious maniacs who rule the country. Erdbrink is married to an Iranian artist, speaks the language and has lived in Iran many years. He worked as a journalist in Iran for years until Iranian authorities revoked Erdbrink's press credentials in late February 2019. Our Man in Tehran was filmed in 2015.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Was this before or after they mowed down tens of thousands of people wanting to be free?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I've only been to Iran (Tehran) once, in the mid 2010's, granted it's been a long ass while since then but my experience was that it was like a diet-Sharjah experience, nowhere close to Dubai but certainly not an Afghan style situation either.
But again, this was a decade~ ago.
Last edited:
delirium trigger
Member
I always get a kick out of it when they cry about Jewish settlements. Look what Islamists do here, lol.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Unless they're hanging you for being raped.
Last edited:
Vestal
Junior Member
Ah yes, but that same President needs to look beyond the attack and look at what the aftermath and day after will be/look like. Have a strategy for the day after.
More importantly, seek the approval of the governed before taking such an action which is OPPOSITE of what he campaigned/elected on.
No??
How about the bare minimum.. Go 24hrs without contradicting themselves on what this is, what the goal is or why we are in it.
Last edited:
Wildebeest
Member
TLDR Ex Daily Telegraph writer explains why Kier Starmer's position is closer to Margaret Thatcher than the right wing press today.
Last edited:
IbizaPocholo
NeoGAFs Kent Brockman
Last edited:
nkarafo
Member
Maybe Iran is similar to North Korea. The capital city being much nicer than the rest of the country for the wealthier/higher class locals and tourists.
LimanimaPT
Member
So, you think that this makes it ok to bomb children and throwing bombs at the streets? Ok. I'm wondering how would you feel if bombs started to fall in manhattan.Iran before 1979:
Iran after:
millions of deaths for the most nonsensical of things like being gay or being a woman in the wrong place.
you do you but I very much disagree with you. It has to end.
Besides go read some history. The sha government was no democracy either. It wasn't all roses either.
Edit: and we all know that neither israel or trump gives too fucks about that.
Last edited:
Cyberpunkd
Member
I think you are mistaking Iran with Saudi Arabia. Speaking of "millions of deaths for the most nonsensical of things like being gay or being a woman in the wrong place." - we are bombing Saudi Arabia when? Asking for a friend:Iran after:
millions of deaths for the most nonsensical of things like being gay or being a woman in the wrong place.
you do you but I very much disagree with you. It has to end.
LGBTQ rights in Saudi Arabia - Wikipedia
Oh, let's not forget the modern day slavery of migrant workers.
Here's 1990s video of Tehran:
Sure, not what it was before the revolution but still not what you posted.
calico
Member
The US is not a direct democracy.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Very selective of them on the world's stage, really.
Another one that gets dusted off. Selectively as well.
Last edited:
LordCBH
Gold Member
And I'm eternally salty about that deficit every year.
Similar threads
- Locked