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[kruis]

Maybe Iran is similar to North Korea. The capital city being much nicer than the rest of the country for the wealthier/higher class locals and tourists.

North Korea is a different story altogether. It's possible to go there as a tourist but only on a predetermined guided tour scripted by the North Korean government that presents the country in the most flattering light and at the same time tries to indoctrinate every westerner that the US is absolute evil, Korean style communism is the gate to paradise on earth and their glorious leaders (past and present) are geniuses greater than Einstein or Da Vinci.

At least it was possible for regular folks to visit Iran as a regular tourist and have a great experience. I've seen multiple Youtube videos about tourism in Iran and the one thing I got from them was how friendly Iranians were to westerners. Seemed like a great place to visit - if you didn't contemplate the nasty, dictatorial side of Iran at all. Even our new gay, Dutch prime-minister went on vacation there years ago even though that country executes gay men by hanging them from a crane....

 

[Baemono]

Unless they're hanging you for being raped.

You know that story is more about corrupt police than "hanging for being raped"

 

[Unknown?]

"The provision of the Constitution giving the war-making power to Congress, was dictated, as I understand it, by the following reasons. Kings had always been involved and impoverishing their people in wars, pretending generally, if not always, that the good of the people was the object. This our Convention understood to be the most oppressive of all Kingly oppressions; and they resolved to so frame the Constitution that no one man should hold the power of bringing this oppression upon us..."

-Abraham Lincoln

Ironic as Lincoln was the first president to really shred the constitution with overreaching powers.

I find it pretty disgusting that the democrats / media use this as political slam. No one reports on the millions of atrocities Iran has done to its people and others since 1979. They don't show photos prior to 1979. It's all " oh trump bad "

The media are not friends of the people. I actually like how hard they criticise Trump, as they should be, but when it's their own party criticism completely goes away and everything gets written off like no big deal.

Gas in my neighborhood has gone up about 50 cents per gallon, if not more in the last few weeks. No exaggeration, early February it was like 3.11 and currently it's hovering around 3.70.

Those midterms are going to be a bloodbath.

Same here but it's been going up like crazy before the Iran attack. That's likely because of California policies though. Stupid "special" blends to increase prices and decades of bad policies forcing refineries to shut down. Almost up to $5 at Costco and they're cheaper than most.

 

[DeepEnigma]

You know that story is more about corrupt police than "hanging for being raped"

 

[Baemono]

Eww, dutch

 

[delirium trigger]

Here's 1990s video of Tehran:



Sure, not what it was before the revolution but still not what you posted.

I fail to see how this proves your point. The women all seem to be wearing garbage bags and headscarves.

 

[Baemono]

I mean, the story is absolutely horrible, but the whole situation was mostly caused by a cop who didn't want to get punishment and lied to have her executed. Of course, awful laws, awful judiciary system.

 

[DeepEnigma]

I mean, the story is absolutely horrible, but the whole situation was mostly caused by a cop who didn't want to get punishment and lied to have her executed. Of course, awful laws, awful judiciary system.

That was the point. This is their system.

 

[Forsete]

So once the middle east is destroyed, US will stop giving Israel upwards of 3.3billion per year right.

They have certainly afford the cost of free college and universal healthcare on their own.

Maybe we can get the free college and healthcare with the $3+ billion per year savings.

Is it really only 3.3 billion?

With the military might they have and having a smaller economy than even my own country I wonder how they can afford all this.

I mean they have been on the offensive for quite a while now. That shit is expensive.

 

[Vestal]

The US is not a direct democracy.

These actions go against the very foundation of how we have conducted warfare as a nation. We have declared war on a nation without congressional approval or even making the case for war to the American people.

Another one that gets dusted off. Selectively as well.

I'm sorry, when did we declare war against a nation such as Iran out of the blue?

 

[DeepEnigma]

I'm sorry, when did we declare war against a nation such as Iran out of the blue?

Yemen, Libya and the 6 other countries that were bombed for years?

 

[Dithadder]

US before 1979

US now

Maybe we could use a dose of our own medicine.

 

[adamsapple]

Is it really only 3.3 billion?

With the military might they have and having a smaller economy than even my own country I wonder how they can afford all this.

I mean they have been on the offensive for quite a while now. That shit is expensive.

AI summary:

• Total Annual Aid: The $3.8 billion consists of $3.3 billion in Foreign Military Financing (FMF) and $500 million for missile defense programs.
• Emergency Funding: Following the October 7, 2023, attacks, the U.S. approved over $14 billion in supplemental aid for the 2024 fiscal year.
• Historical Context:
  Since 1951, the U.S. has provided over $305 billion (inflation-adjusted) in total aid to Israel
  • Usage: Almost all U.S. aid is used to purchase American-made military equipment, such as combat aircraft (F-35s, F-15s, F-16s) and munitions.

 

[thefool]

Iran? Great country. They might kill the women soccer players who stayed silent during their anthem but i saw this youtube video of a farming market you know?

After that dork talking about Christianity a few pages ago now we have a new tool posting youtubes to prove Iran is somewhat…good

https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/09/sport/australia-iran-women-soccer-asian-cup-intl-hnk

 

[delirium trigger]

US before 1979

US now

Maybe we could use a dose of our own medicine.

There's a wave of gay islamic communism taking over the west. Don't ask me why it's all intertwined but for whatever reason, it is.

 

[near]

just leave them alone and maybe we can live in peace.

Yes, I'm sure leaving them alone to develop nukes would lead to peace.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

I fail to see how this proves your point. The women all seem to be wearing garbage bags and headscarves.

We bomb people for headscarves now? Again - Saudi Arabia when?

 

[thefool]

We bomb people for headscarves now? Again - Saudi Arabia when?

Who's we? Aren't you french?

 

[Vestal]

Yemen, Libya and the 6 other countries that were bomb for years?

Thats bundling up of various different conflicts through out the years. Many of which have very particular reasons as to why they got to that point. None of which compare in impact on the global stage to Iran.

 

[delirium trigger]

We bomb people for headscarves now? Again - Saudi Arabia when?

No, we bomb them when they brag about how much uranium they have, lol.

 

[Signalis]

Who's we? Aren't you french?

The Islamic Republic of France

 

[Unknown?]

Thats bundling up of various different conflicts through out the years. Many of which have very particular reasons as to why they got to that point. None of which compare in impact on the global stage to Iran.

Afghanistan, Iraq? Congress hasn't declared war since Pearl Harbor.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

No, we bomb them when they brag about how much uranium they have, lol.

North Korea when?

 

[Gp1]

... why not a single country in the Middle East has a problem with them?...

 

[thefool]

The Islamic Republic of France

It's a very rich diverse country.

 

[kruis]

We bomb people for headscarves now? Again - Saudi Arabia when?

Saudi-Arabia was until very recently a much bigger shit hole than Iran: much stricter dress rules for women, women were officially seen and treated as second class citizens (always had to be accompanied by a male in public, couldn't drive cars, separate queues for women and men, etc), no freedom of religion, etc. SA was notorious for its executions through beheadings.

Saudis were also responsible for the rise of ultra orthodox Islam all over the world by financing madrassas and mosques where the Wahabi form of Islam was preached. Their oil money and strict view of Islam changed the face of many Islamic countries that had always been much more moderate and lenient before. And let's not forget the involvement of Saudi-Arabia in 911.

And yet this country was a trusted ally of the US for decades.

 

[Vestal]

Afghanistan, Iraq? Congress hasn't declared war since Pearl Harbor.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/107th-congress/senate-joint-resolution/23

https://www.congress.gov/bill/107th-congress/house-joint-resolution/114

 

[Signalis]

It's a very rich diverse country.

European leaders sure do hate their native populations. And the liberals singing song of praise about all these doctors, astronauts and physicists they are letting in

 

[Unknown?]

https://www.congress.gov/bill/107th-congress/senate-joint-resolution/23

https://www.congress.gov/bill/107th-congress/house-joint-resolution/114

I may be wrong, but that's different from declaring war. It authorized attacks but was not a declaration of war.

Ah, yes. Sorry for the shitty source.

Congress hasn't officially declared war since WWII. Here's how presidential war powers have played out since then

Like many predecessors, President Donald Trump claims broad, even unlimited power over U.S. forces.

www.pbs.org

 

[vodka-bull]

So once the middle east is destroyed, US will stop giving Israel upwards of 3.3billion per year right.

They have certainly afford the cost of free college and universal healthcare on their own.

Maybe we can get the free college and healthcare with the $3+ billion per year savings.

But that would make POTUS and his billionaire friends very sad.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

The Islamic Republic of France

You've never been to France, have you?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Thats bundling up of various different conflicts through out the years. Many of which have very particular reasons as to why they got to that point. None of which compare in impact on the global stage to Iran.

They should not have bragged about having enriched enough uranium for 11 bombs at the negotiations table.

 

[Vestal]

They should not have bragged about having enriched enough uranium for 11 bombs at the negotiations table.

Is that the reason? I thought it was because Israel was about to attack. Wait or was it because Trump had a feeling? I thought we had obliterated their capabilities?

See the problem with the messaging?

 

[kittoo]

I have both electric (ID4) and gas (Jetta) cars. I just filled my Jetta up this weekend. Looks like I know which car I'll be using more though.

I've been contemplating getting rid of owning gas cars altogether. I've held onto the Jetta because it's a car I bought in 2014 new and has held strong, it'd cost more to replace it than the amount I pay in gas. However, this summer we'll be in a situation to just go down to one car and my wife keeps pushing that since she'll no longer have to drive our kids to school (their new schools next school year are in walking distance, and we have transit access) so that's how it may end up going down if she has her way.

My next car, whenever I decide to replace my Compass, is going to be an EV for sure. They seem better to me in almost every way these days- instant torque, no noise, no pollution (in running that is. I know making them and electricity have their own pollution), no gas issue etc. Range and infrastructure are no issues nowadays either.

I just went to fill up the Compass and realized just how much more expensive it is to run. My office provides free charging for EVs so on one hand one car is free to run and other is a gas guzzler (as much as I love the Compass. It was my first car).

 

[DeepEnigma]

Is that the reason? I thought it was because Israel was about to attack. Wait or was it because Trump had a feeling? I thought we had obliterated their capabilities?

See the problem with the messaging?

No.

I see a terrorist state shouting 'death to American and it's allies' for 50 years, now bragging about enriching enough uranium to carry out that goal.

 

[delirium trigger]

North Korea when?

Too late. Trying to prevent another North Korea, derp.

 

[P:axMagellanic]

Can these retards stop bombing tankers and oil terminals please, the fuck are they doing.

Ironic as Lincoln was the first president to really shred the constitution with overreaching powers.

Always amusing seeing Presidente moan about kingship. US presidents are granted the kind of wide reaching power that would make George III blush.

 

[calico]

These actions go against the very foundation of how we have conducted warfare as a nation.

I think that ship sailed about a dozen undeclared wars ago. Your standard of 'but Iran is more important than those other ones' is completely arbitrary.

Regardless, the President does not need to 'seek approval of the governed' before using the military. Authority to do so was bestowed upon him by virtue of being elected President.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[Jaybe]

North Korea when?

Strawman now

 

[poppabk]

No.

I see a terrorist state shouting 'death to American and it's allies' for 50 years, now bragging about enriching enough uranium to carry out that goal.

But then shouldn't the main target be that uranium instead of it being a stretch goal of the war.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

 

[DeepEnigma]

But then shouldn't the main target be that uranium instead of it being a stretch goal of the war.

Nope. You take out and exhaust all of their ballistic missiles that they've been using on Israel and others for decades. Stockpiles, etc..

You take out the terrorist regime that's been funding/sponsoring the death to tens of thousands to the hundreds of thousands depending on the metric measured, for over 50 years.

 

[Bojji]

So far results for global economy are just... bad:

 

[DeepEnigma]

Buy low, sell high. Rinse/repeat.

 

[Wildebeest]

You've never been to France, have you?

Its the done thing to believe in the weirdest shit about every country on earth like all you have is a map written on deer skin with "here be dragons" written on it.

 

[poppabk]

Nope. You take out and exhaust all of their ballistic missiles that they've been using on Israel and others for decades. Stockpiles, etc..

You take out the terrorist regime that's been funding/sponsoring the death to tens of thousands to the hundreds of thousands depending on the metric measured, for over 50 years.

So then the enriched uranium just sits there ready to be weaponized? Just one suitcase nuke and all the ballistic missiles and drones destroyed would be small beans.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

So far results for global economy are just... bad:

It's almost as if the economy likes stability and predictability?

 

[adamsapple]

https://thehill.com/business/5774913-donald-trump-oil-tankers-strait-hormuz/

Trump: Oil tanker crews must 'show some guts,' sail through Straight of Hormuz

"These ships should go through the Strait of Hormuz and show some guts, there's nothing to be afraid of. … They have no Navy, we sunk all their ships," Trump said, according to Fox News's Brian Kilmeade, who recounted the president's remarks during an interview.

 

[DeepEnigma]

So then the enriched uranium just sits there ready to be weaponized? Just one suitcase nuke and all the ballistic missiles and drones destroyed would be small beans.

We forum dwellers don't have the answers to that. There is a massive intel apparatus that does.

A 100lb suitcase will stand out, but you answered your own question as to why this regime should no longer be in power.