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Graphical Fidelity I Expect This Gen
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Its one of the most beautiful and most infruriating games ive ever played. if you thought euro jank was janky, wait till you see south korean jank. the control schemes are obtuse, the menus impossible to navigate, the game mechanics completely unituivtive, i have never had to google how to do basic things before. im constantly stuck.
On the other hand, there are so many things it is doing right that other RPGs and games dont. I cant even list them all. This is a game that would be a dream game for me were it not for so many weird little oddities.
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
Just to confirm, Where the winds meet?
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
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I think with time it will get better as they are listening to the feedback and acting accordingly. I mean I heard they will even patch the AI art in the game for fuck's sake lol. Once some of these bugs get ironed out I will tackle it but until then I dont think I have the mental capacity to deal with all that right now lol
Buggy Loop
Gold Member
Bojji
Gold Member
From what I have seen it just looks - different...
RT is half baked in this game, RTAO adds shading on some elements but it removes it on others (like foliage):
Gonzito
Gold Member
From what I have seen it just looks - different...
RT is half baked in this game, RTAO adds shading on some elements but it removes it on others (like foliage):
Yeah I watched a video and Raytracing looks very underwhelming. Shame
Bojji
Gold Member
Reflections also aren't very good...
And they fucked up implementation of DLSS (and maybe other upscalers), they are clearly doing something wrong with when it is applied in the pipeline - game is very aliased in motion (that would also explain why PS5 Pro version doesn't look good when it comes to IQ).
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
This guy (ex-Rockstar dev) breaks down the visuals and its oddities very well here. he's obviously blown away but also baffled by some of the choices made. The reshade he puts in just completely changes the grass for instance.
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winjer
Gold Member
From what I have seen it just looks - different...
RT is half baked in this game, RTAO adds shading on some elements but it removes it on others (like foliage):
BTW, how do you think PICO compares to other upscalers.
Bojji
Gold Member
From what I have seen results are close to DLSS but I didn't do any zoom in comparisons.
I think something is very wrong in this game and how it handles upscalers because it's aliased in motion.
GymWolf
Gold Member
Not sure what bugs preset E introduce but it looks noticeably better than D.
Gonzito
Gold Member
What visual improvements have you noticed?
GymWolf
Gold Member
He got koed by lerone murphy of all people, can't be that good.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
MGSV called, it wants its rocks back.From what I have seen it just looks - different...
RT is half baked in this game, RTAO adds shading on some elements but it removes it on others (like foliage):
Bojji
Gold Member
In other games I tested preset E removes most of the boiling present in D.
Nvidia App added option for custom resolution in CD, I wonder if it works (nvidia inspector didn't)...
GymWolf
Gold Member
Visual clarity seems better.
alabtrosMyster
Member
It's because they did the best they could with the old ways.
RT isn't that much of an improvement when the classig rendering methods are pushed to their limits.
GudOlRub
Member
Now this is a comparison competition I'll gladly welcome. I love stupid little details like this.
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
RainyNguyen
Member
It's time for bullshots. RR+ DLAA + my reshade
Hellz to the yeah
Legit thought these were real rocks, I am like Gymwolf when it comes to rocks, very hard to impress but these are niceIt's time for bullshots. RR+ DLAA + my reshade
Bojji
Gold Member
It's time for bullshots. RR+ DLAA + my reshade
I mean, RDR2 shits all over this game!!!!!
Gonzito
Gold Member
Holy moly, you are a good photographer
RainyNguyen
Member
They are bullshots and also use my reshade, not the vanilla. My opinion hasn't changed, RDR2 looks far, far better than CD. The RDR2 screenshots I posted on previous pages still haven't been matched by any open-world game in terms of overall impression.
Technically, CD is definitely far ahead of RDR2, but for me, art style is what truly determines whether a game looks beautiful or not (the best-looking game for me in recent years is ER).
analog_future
Resident Crybaby
It's time for bullshots. RR+ DLAA + my reshade
Yeah damn, amazing.
This game will really shine after a year of patches and an RTX 6090
Bojji
Gold Member
Art is subjective. I can agree that for some people RDR2 might look superior to them.
But objectively that's not the case.
CowboyLou
Member
Without getting into subjective/objective platitudes and "art direction" vagaries, the reason RDR2 still looks outstanding despite its age is that it's the very rare game that doesn't trigger the "oh, that looks like a video game" part of peoples' brains. Yes it still has its own subtle stylization and art design, but overall it's going for a very naturalistic and realistic look that most games never achieve. The way the world is laid out, the landscapes, spacing and scale of everything is still second to none. There's countless minute reasons why, but it just doesn't scream "video game" in the way we're accustomed to video games doing. I've brought it up in the past but it's tough since we're now somewhere in the gray area between "art direction" and "fidelity".
To its credit, CD does a great job with interesting landscapes and overall avoiding that generic height-mapped rolling hills fake landscape feel that most open-world games suffer from (Linneman pointed this out in his hourlong unscripted vid and I agree, it's something I criticized AC Shadows for). But despite the scale of its map it still looks very compressed and video game-y and for lack of a better word, fake in a lot of spots, Not to mention aspects like the instant biome transitions that just pull me right out. It's doing some really cool stuff and we're going to see it become more refined over time, but there's a reason some people are still putting RDR2 ahead despite the generational difference in raw fidelity. Of course this is ultimately the fidelity thread and CD obviously wins out in a majority of aspects, but the issue is a little more complicated than simply preferring one game's "art style" over the other.
To its credit, CD does a great job with interesting landscapes and overall avoiding that generic height-mapped rolling hills fake landscape feel that most open-world games suffer from (Linneman pointed this out in his hourlong unscripted vid and I agree, it's something I criticized AC Shadows for). But despite the scale of its map it still looks very compressed and video game-y and for lack of a better word, fake in a lot of spots, Not to mention aspects like the instant biome transitions that just pull me right out. It's doing some really cool stuff and we're going to see it become more refined over time, but there's a reason some people are still putting RDR2 ahead despite the generational difference in raw fidelity. Of course this is ultimately the fidelity thread and CD obviously wins out in a majority of aspects, but the issue is a little more complicated than simply preferring one game's "art style" over the other.
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CowboyLou
Member
Stalker 2 news coming on Thursday. I'm guessing it's the engine update. Hoping for a big performance boost here, been putting off playing it. I loved the few hours I played at launch but immediately decided it's a game I'll return to when it's finally done cooking, whenever that is.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
this looks a generation ahead of the RDR2 shots you posted. A generational difference.It's time for bullshots. RR+ DLAA + my reshade
And god i love the indirect lighting in this game.
GudOlRub
Member
I so hope you're right, I've been wanting to play this game for so long but it has the worst lumen implementation I've ever seen, I refuse to play it all the way through just for the "ultimate" version of the game to arrive years later.
Once they finally add the promised hardware RT I'm sure it'll be one of the most gorgeous games around but for now in motion it fucking sucks to play sometimes...
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Pearl Abyss gave DF the PS5 equivalent settings.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
UNACCEPTABLE!
Balducci30
Member
Huh well I've softened on it a bit as I've gone on - there are some really cool systems and obviously it's doing a lot of stuff graphically that most games don't do. But yeah it's clearly not built for the base consoles if it requires ray reconstruction to look good - the game itself gets better as I go it has a terrible intro and the controls suck at first