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Skyward Sword review thread [Newest Reviews - Cubed3 10/10, GC: A, AusGamers: 7/10]
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Because the review stinks and you like it for a stupid reason.
Explain how it's a good review so we can come to an understanding.
Who are YOU trying to fool? What the fuck is the point of your incessant as asshattery? What are you trying to prove to people?
So you like the two most negative reviews for this game. Why? Why do you give a shit? From all accounts, you don't even seem to like the series. You think it's grown stale and repetitive, or maybe you never even ever liked a zelda game at all. The question is, what the hell is your invested interest in these reviews?
Are you trying to spread some kind of gospel? Teach the world about how zelda wasn't ever a good series to begin with? Who the fuck would care and who the fuck would listen? Why do you think just about everyone here thinks your a joke? Because it's hard to take seriously someone whose sole clear motive is just to bring everyone else down. You really think you're some kind of messenger of truth here? That these two reviews are the only objective reviews among dozens of positive appraisals?
What kind of evidence do you even have to support such a claim? Other than pretending like a positive review automatically indicates bias, what actual logical reasoning do you have to cling to the negative reviews? Even people like Feep, a clear vocal critic of the review who gave it a score along the lower end, agree that SS is a pretty solid game. So how is it that suddenly the only objective people are the ones that seem to agree with YOU?
And don't reply to this comment with some snarky half assed remark brushing it off. Don't pretend like I'm just some hater trying to silence you. Tell us. Why the fuck do you care so much, and why the hell should people care what you think? You fucking tool.
IrrelevantNotch
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Let me put it this way. Lets say you want to see a movie but first you want to know whether you'll enjoy it or not. How do you do that? Well, you look for a review. And if you're smart you will look for a review from a reviewer who has similar tastes to you. For example, if somebody rates Jack and Jill positively (a movie you haven't seen), but also gives a positive review of Bucky Larson (a movie you have seen and despise) their opinion of the former movie isn't gonna mean dick to you.
The same applies to videogames. If a hundred people tell me that Skyward is great, but also tell me they loved Twilight Princess (a game I absolutely despise) what possible reason could I have for listening to them? I wouldn't. The whole point of reviews is to get an opinion from someone who shares tastes similar to your own. And thankfully a few of those people have shared their opinion of the game despite any possible backlash it may generate from the crazy Zelda fans who populate this forum.
butter_stick
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It's a good review if you happen to have the same preconceptions as the reviewer, and have a dislike towards motion controls and everything Wii represents.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Even in that case it's not really "good" though, such a person would never consider the game anyway. I guess it at least elevates to "pointless" though.
DisenLedZep
Member
So tell us IrrelevantNotch, how far are you into the game?
I suppose, by your way of defending someones review, you must agree with them because you actually played the game. I don't know... it's just a wild guess
I suppose, by your way of defending someones review, you must agree with them because you actually played the game. I don't know... it's just a wild guess
butter_stick
Banned
I know people that liked Zelda on N64 and Cube but hate motion controls and the Wii in general. While the guy's review is obviously inevitably going to be that the game isn't good, it's illogical for a piece of media to only be critiqued by people with a predisposition to like it. Reviews aren't just product guides. Nobody has a problem with Ebert reviewing a shitty movie everyone knows he'll talk shit about for the whole review.
IrrelevantNotch
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Well, considering it hasn't released here yet... none.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
It's also illogical to respond as if I implied such is what should be done, on any level.
EmCeeGramr
Member
So why are you assuming it's being critiqued ONLY for his predisposition and not because it's an awful review?
DisenLedZep
Member
So you're actually talking without knowing...
I think we can end this discussion then. Thanks
And if you hate Nintendo and homosexuals. Don't forget that!
Now, I want you to think about this. You hate the Wii and motion controls, so you think you won't like the game. Therefore, you pick a negative review made by a reviewer with the same preconceptions. What's the point? All that you've done is confirmed that there's someone else who shares your opinion. To make it worse , the review itself is poorly written and unfocused. It's a bad review. There's no debate here.
butter_stick
Banned
Because almost all reviews are awful. People don't bother complaining about a poorly written piece of shit if it gives their most anticipated game a 10.
IrrelevantNotch
Banned
Uh, because only negative reviews get their writing critiqued in this thread. Its quite laughable to suggest its score is irrelevant.
Lol. Ok buddy. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
EmCeeGramr
Member
I thought IGN's review was god-fucking-awful and embarrassing, and didn't read half of the 10/10 ones because I expected the same. OOPS.
Wrong-o.
Wrong-o.
Ah, now I get it. You agreed with that comment on the first page of the review, and that's a large part of what won you over. Okay then. Sorry, your opinion of the review makes since. You're still a generalizing dick, but at least you have a good reason for liking the review.
butter_stick
Banned
Congratulations on being a man of incredibly high standards when it comes to vidya reviews. But you know as well as I do people are much more likely to critique a review's content if it goes against their perceived quality of the game.
I think you're way off on this one. I think it was IGN's review for UC3 that was a great score (10/10 maybe? I can't remember) but it read like a complete joke. And I'm a fan of the game, though its not as good as UC2. I've seen good reviews get called out, both for being awfully written or for completely omitting glaring issues.
EmCeeGramr
Member
Yeah but that's not what was being discussed here. Why are you trying to shift discussion of a single review in a review thread to a different topic?
Overly positive reviews are a bore to read, though, especially when they're long. I just gave up trying to read them, so now I stick to troll reviews to get a laugh.
I guess that I'm just a different person than you then, because I would have a completely different reaction to things. I couldn't care less if you were a fan of the series or not or what other games you are a fan of. I never keep track of those things and I never bother to go over someone's review history because it's a complete waste of time to me and completely irrelevant as to how I judge someone's review. Here are my major concerns:
- Is the reviewer being honest about the positives and flaws? This I do by reading comments to the review and reading other reviews.
- Does the reviewer explain well what portions are enjoyable and what aren't? If it's lopsided one way or the other in explaining, the review better be corroborated by others.
These two things are why I almost never browse review sites for reviews these days, but rather read them from GAF, because I can quickly see the feedback from others who have also played the game and be aware of the big points or flags.
IrrelevantNotch
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You must be one pretentious fuck to think you can tell one's honesty of a game's nuances based off their writing style (or whatever ridiculous metric one would use to judge that sort of thing)
I'm suspicious of the fact that the two most negative reviews came out long after all the 10s, praise and very high metascore.
If it isn't primarily fishing for hits or an effort to lower the metascore, or both, then at the least they were probably excited that both of those were going to happen, anyway.
If it isn't primarily fishing for hits or an effort to lower the metascore, or both, then at the least they were probably excited that both of those were going to happen, anyway.
I lol'd. Now I know you're trolling.
Do you always reply before reading all of someone's post, or did your brain just have a short?
In any case, if you aren't aware, reviews often tend to misinterpret, omit, overstate, understate, or make other kinds of alterations to important details for whatever reason, sometimes even intentionally. For example, isn't that some of the major qualms against exclusive reviews? Writing absurdities for page hits or notoriety isn't a mythical animal either. If a reviewer is dead set on making the review look a certain way rather than be honest about the whole situation, it becomes obvious pretty quickly because someone will point out the inconsistencies, on GAF even.
boiled goose
good with gravy
a badly written negative review is still a negative review.
It means that person did not enjoy the game. whether u value that opinion or not is up to you.
getting perfect scores acrosss the board means most people agree it is a great game. that definitely is not the case for SS. Does not mean you wont think it is a great game.
It means that person did not enjoy the game. whether u value that opinion or not is up to you.
getting perfect scores acrosss the board means most people agree it is a great game. that definitely is not the case for SS. Does not mean you wont think it is a great game.
EmCeeGramr
Member
This is the kind of shit that makes these threads the cesspool of the internet material.
butter_stick
Banned
I guess that's what I get for responding to your line of questioning. Is this how police get confessions?
Did I miss something here, because SS has a 95 average... that isn't perfect?
butter_stick
Banned
Well it's 5 less than perfect, isn't it?
It means the game is somewhat polarizing. For example, I'm really not enjoying it at all thus far (5 hours in).
Lord_Byron28
Member
In no way does a 95 metacritic score mean it's a polarizing or somewhat polarizing game. It means that the general consesus of SS is an awesome game with some minor flaws.
I figured he was referencing the fact that most of the reviews were perfect, but there are several outliers that don't agree.
No game is perfect, no game ever will be, there will always be something youc an levy against any game.
A score of 95+ score for a system exclusive game is the sign of an exceptional piece of software, a title that fully justifies owning the console it is on, a generation defining experience, a masterpiece if you will.
The likes of Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 and Skyward Sword are these for the Wii. There are masterpieces in my eye, but of course there is always something that could be done to them to make them even better, the problem with us thogh is we always want more.
A score of 95+ score for a system exclusive game is the sign of an exceptional piece of software, a title that fully justifies owning the console it is on, a generation defining experience, a masterpiece if you will.
The likes of Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 and Skyward Sword are these for the Wii. There are masterpieces in my eye, but of course there is always something that could be done to them to make them even better, the problem with us thogh is we always want more.
EmCeeGramr
Member
My "line" of questioning? I asked you why you were making high-and-mighty assumptions about why other people had an opinion on a review, and then the purpose of trying to shift a thread's subject in the first place after your one answer.
Yes, this is the real precinct shit here. Let me call in the hardboiled detective and switch off the security camera.
Stop.
I'm sticking with "scores don't mean a thing". They're indicative of the general quality, but indicative of a masterpiece? I wouldn't say so. I don't think too many people would consider GTA IV a masterpiece today.
I should have made it clear that the "masterpiece" was more of a personal touch.
Let's not go there because I just wanted to question the post that said, that a 95 average score somehow doesn't mean that people across the board agree, it's a great game.
butter_stick
Banned
I'm not sure how to respond to you. I tried thinking of a suitable Simpsons gif but I'm on my phone and it'd be tedious to track one down. I'm terribly sorry if you disagree with my opinion the 75/100 review is getting an elevated level of criticism because of its low score more so than its shitty writing. I just hope we can both move on.
I've rarely seen anybody tell me so much I don't like a game that I've stated I like.
what skyward sword fans have learned from uncharted 2 fans
Sorry I missed that one post where you said you actually like it, this is a long thread you know.
Edit: actually last time I called you out, you had not played the game but were already criticizing it for pages and pages (and pages).
Did you mean 65/100? If so, are you sure that opinion is based on what you're seeing in this thread and not any predispositions of Zelda fans?