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Girl/Dating Age Part 2: A combined effort to give advice for those in need

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Update:

Got told she wanted to divorce me by text. I suggested we meet face to face to discuss splitting everything up. We did. 10 hours later I get a message from an old friend on Facebook saying "why did your wife change her status to single", I hop on Facebook, she blocked me.

I hope you explain to your old friend exactly what she's done, what a nasty heartless creature she obviously is. Totally agree with getting tested, she's been doing this a while I bet and was totally trying to push you into moving out recently.. You're so much better off without her. She'll be like this forever. honestly, take comfort in the fact that who ever she goes off with next, she'll do the same again. and again. Unless it happens to her first.

Hold your head high, you've done nothing wrong in all of this from what you've written here. in my whole life, she sounds like one of the most immature and selfish people I've ever had the misfortune of hearing about. Disgusting. I only hope this behaviour makes it easier for you to move on to MUCH better things, the sooner the better.
 
What kind of tone do you (and others) use for opening conversations online? I scan their profile for common interests and ask genuine questions (their answers tell me if I should be interested or not) combined with some friendly humor. Should I tease them right from the start and be sexual or what?

I do the exact same thing. Kind of wondering this as well.
 
I managed to land myself a date with a nice little lady this week - I'm taking her to a big german Christmas market in Birmingham (UK). I haven't been on a proper date in a long long time though, any tips? I don't really know her at all, and in the past I've only dated girls that I've known for quite a while, so it's new territory for me!
 

Cubsfan23

Banned
Ok GAF, I need some opinions.

So I've been regularly messaging these two girls on okcupid. In both situations, ~5 messages have been sent from both sides. I figured it was best to upgrade from okc messaging to texting, so I gave both of the girls my number. Days and days passed. Never got a text from either of them. Finally ~6 days later I get messages on okc from them. One of them says I never gave her my name so she didn't want to text without knowing it and the other one said something about every time she thinks about texting me it's "too late o'clock". She then gave me her number and said shes anticipating my text.

So I messaged the first girl and told her my name, but the second girl has me wondering if shes testing me. (This is the main reason I'm posting.)

A little back story, The first girl messaged me first. I messaged the second girl first. I've had interesting conversation with both of them. And I thought it was a good sign that second gave me her name in one of her later messages.

Opinions? Am I over thinking the whole thing?

do not text them first

yes, she is testing you.
 

Dina

Member
Was in a bit of a pickle. My date with Girl #1 has been 1,5 week past but a girl (#2) I've texted a fair bit with just responded back to me. Going for a few drinks on thursday, so we'll see what happens there. I actually don't know a lot about her, so we'll see. But if it doesn't, I might just go for girl #1 full stop.

I actually feel pretty bad for Girl #1 since she is obviously into me but I'm putting her off before I've seen girl #2 at least once.

Sometimes you have zero, sometimes you have one too many.
 

Minamu

Member
I do the exact same thing. Kind of wondering this as well.
Then I can only assume they don't like my questions or my looks. Most of them won't even check out my profile or my other pictures, so can't be much else than pure and simple lack of attraction. Can't blame anyone for that, we do it every day, unfortunately.
 
do not text them first

yes, she is testing you.

Brent speaks! Haha.


Then I can only assume they don't like my questions or my looks. Most of them won't even check out my profile or my other pictures, so can't be much else than pure and simple lack of attraction. Can't blame anyone for that, we do it every day, unfortunately.

I'm guilty of that. If shes not attractive I tend to skip over her, even if we are really compatible. If an ugo sends me a message I still reply though.
 
Well the other thing is I kinda think the girl is making it up and it's a trap.

What kind of trap? Why would someone do that? If the other girl is making it up she's a manipulative bitch who doesn't matter. Worst case scenario is you get turned down. Ask the girl out to do something after work one day if you're interested. If the the second girl is telling the truth it could turn out to be something worthwhile. If she's lying, then what's the worst that could happen?
 

low-G

Member
Was in a bit of a pickle. My date with Girl #1 has been 1,5 week past but a girl (#2) I've texted a fair bit with just responded back to me. Going for a few drinks on thursday, so we'll see what happens there. I actually don't know a lot about her, so we'll see. But if it doesn't, I might just go for girl #1 full stop.

I actually feel pretty bad for Girl #1 since she is obviously into me but I'm putting her off before I've seen girl #2 at least once.

Sometimes you have zero, sometimes you have one too many.

Don't feel bad one bit, you have every right to do this.

How many dates have you been on with girl #1? Because unless it's a lot and you're really feeling good about it, I suggest you not think about going 'full stop'. That sort of thinking gets you in a trap.
 

Mully

Member
So it's that week where my ex and I are supposed to talk. I don't know what to say to her. I've done a lot of positive things in my life since the breakup and I'm really happy about myself again, but I don't want to brag to her.

Right now I'm planning on calling her tomorrow night and asking her if she wants to meet up sometime Wednesday night at a coffee house or something with a similar atmosphere and just talk to her. I will not be pleading for her to get back together with me. I know that's not going to work. I'm nervous, it's a delicate situation and I really don't want to say the wrong thing.

Any advice?
 

JORMBO

Darkness no more
I say, if you want to text her, text her. If you think she's playing a game with the very first text, is that someone you'd want to be with?

Agreed.

Most girls want the guy to initiate things. Just send her a text or call her. No need to think into things so much.
 
So thanks to the new username post search, my ex-gf has been stalking me here on GAF. And saw me post about that Indian girl. So not only does she stalk my Facebook, but NeoGAF as well. Wow.
 
I managed to land myself a date with a nice little lady this week - I'm taking her to a big german Christmas market in Birmingham (UK). I haven't been on a proper date in a long long time though, any tips? I don't really know her at all, and in the past I've only dated girls that I've known for quite a while, so it's new territory for me!
Just relax and have fun. Seriously. Don't overthink it and just let the date carry itself. If you're not the best communicator and worried about awkward silences, have a few questions in the back of your head you can pull out if needed (IE: "what is your most embarassing moment?" "if you could go on a date with one celebrity who would it be?").

Good luck and let us know how it goes!

Sometimes you have zero, sometimes you have one too many.
Seriously, I've always found that women come in waves for me. One minute there's nothing, next minute there's 3 or 4 different girls blowing up my phone. Not totally sure why that's the case but it seems to be a common occurence in my life.

So it's that week where my ex and I are supposed to talk. I don't know what to say to her. I've done a lot of positive things in my life since the breakup and I'm really happy about myself again, but I don't want to brag to her.

Right now I'm planning on calling her tomorrow night and asking her if she wants to meet up sometime Wednesday night at a coffee house or something with a similar atmosphere and just talk to her. I will not be pleading for her to get back together with me. I know that's not going to work. I'm nervous, it's a delicate situation and I really don't want to say the wrong thing.

Any advice?
Are you just meeting up to talk? Or do you have hopes of reconcilliation and potentially getting back together?

You mentioned you don't want to "brag" about yourself, but I'd definitely bring up some of the things you've done recently that have bettered your life. Do so casually of course.
 
So thanks to the new username post search, my ex-gf has been stalking me here on GAF. And saw me post about that Indian girl. So not only does she stalk my Facebook, but NeoGAF as well. Wow.

I have the same problem, I blocked my ex on facebook, so she started logging via her friend's account. I've also blocked 3 seperate phone numbers, and I still get texts from her via random numbers.
 

Mully

Member
Are you just meeting up to talk? Or do you have hopes of and potentially getting back together?

You mentioned you don't want to "brag" about yourself, but I'd definitely bring up some of the things you've done recently that have bettered your life. Do so casually of course.

We are meeting up to talk, but we haven't really spoken in a little over a month. I thought a phone call would be the best way to confirm that she still wants to talk.

I do have hopes of getting back together. I've worked on myself and made sure that I fixed the problems that I had with myself personally. I think I'll bring up a few of these things, but even then, I'm a little hesitant.

I'm most nervous about talking about our break up. Should I just avoid the topic completely or pepper it in? I feel like it may bring up a lot of negative thoughts about me, and that wouldn't be the best for my intentions to get back together with her.
 

Mr.City

Member
Update:

Got told she wanted to divorce me by text. I suggested we meet face to face to discuss splitting everything up. We did. 10 hours later I get a message from an old friend on Facebook saying "why did your wife change her status to single", I hop on Facebook, she blocked me.

That's terrible. How long have you two been married?
 
We are meeting up to talk, but we haven't really spoken in a little over a month. I thought a phone call would be the best way to confirm that she still wants to talk.

I do have hopes of getting back together. I've worked on myself and made sure that I fixed the problems that I had with myself personally. I think I'll bring up a few of these things, but even then, I'm a little hesitant.

I'm most nervous about talking about our break up. Should I just avoid the topic completely or pepper it in? I feel like it may bring up a lot of negative thoughts about me, and that wouldn't be the best for my intentions to get back together with her.

I remember you posted just maybe less than 2 months ago about this. I don't know you, but I doubt anyone can really change or "fix" their problems in that timespan. You should probably wait 6 months+ otherwise you will probably just end up doing a replay of why things went bad before.
 

Spacebar

Member
Hey guys, I have these two books I'm willing to give away. They're both pretty decent for noobs to the dating scene. I wouldn't recommend taking the routines strait from the book, but it gives good tips on what to look for when you're out spitting game.

I'll give them out first come first serve. Just send me a PM and please only one book per person.

If you have any questions about the books just ask.

Mystery Method: Taken
Art of the Approach: Taken

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DrFunk

not licensed in your state
Agreed.

Most girls want the guy to initiate things. Just send her a text or call her. No need to think into things so much.

I read posts like this...and it makes sense. But Brent/David Delango/et. al say "don't pursue"

...who's more right in this situation?
 

masud

Banned
I read posts like this...and it makes sense. But Brent/David Delango/et. al say "don't pursue"

...who's more right in this situation?

Guys like brent are trying to show guys how to attract (manipulate) women that otherwise wouldnt be into them without these tactics. Women like men (that they're into) to take the initiative but obviosly if she's not into you in the first place taking initiative wont be a good thing. But being to eager/availible is never a good thing so that is good advice.
 

ShOcKwAvE

Member
Texted M again last night that I was really confused why she was ignoring me after SHE asked me to meet and talk. Now this morning:

Her: "I don't want to date anyone and I don't want to drag this out so just...so please understand. I don't want to meet on Tues. I'm sorry."
Me: "I'm glad you're finally honest, but you won't even use the phone and let me say what I wanted? I think you owe me that much...texts suck."

Well she called me just now and we talked for a little more than 5 minutes, but it felt great! She apologized for leading me on...I told her how I was just glad to hear the truth, etc.

This is how adults should act.
 

equap

Banned
Hey guys, I have these two books I'm willing to give away. They're both pretty decent for noobs to the dating scene. I wouldn't recommend taking the routines strait from the book, but it gives good tips on what to look for when you're out spitting game.

I'll give them out first come first serve. Just send me a PM and please only one book per person.

If you have any questions about the books just ask.

Mystery Method: Taken

Wk6GF.jpg
these books seriously work?? what do they tell you? one thing i hate about going to talk to a girl is not knowing what to say or keep the flow going. also, i stutter when i'm nervous. :\
 

Spacebar

Member
these books seriously work?? what do they tell you? one thing i hate about going to talk to a girl is not knowing what to say or keep the flow going. also, i stutter when i'm nervous. :\

Do they work...Not really. I've tried a couple of the lines in the book that were pretty generic and I didn't score with any of them. However I started to form my own openers and build confidence when I was reading them last year.

It's not going to make you less nervous or cure your stuttering problems, but it does give you good ideas on how to respond to questions and be more witty.

They basically gave me the tools to create my own game plan. When I had a plan I could finally go out in the field and pick up on a lot more things than I did before.
 

Combine

Banned
I was excited to see that Combine's ban was over...then I see that he's still in the same position. :|
Well, not exactly the same per say in some aspects.

I mean, I got myself into therapy and also got myself a personal trainer, that's two big things there. Plus I got a job since I think I was unemployed at the time of my ban.

baby steps!
 
So thanks to the new username post search, my ex-gf has been stalking me here on GAF. And saw me post about that Indian girl. So not only does she stalk my Facebook, but NeoGAF as well. Wow.

I'm a little paranoid about that too because I use the same moniker across several different places like Xbox Live and Steam. I use something different for dating websites though.
 
We are meeting up to talk, but we haven't really spoken in a little over a month. I thought a phone call would be the best way to confirm that she still wants to talk.

I do have hopes of getting back together. I've worked on myself and made sure that I fixed the problems that I had with myself personally. I think I'll bring up a few of these things, but even then, I'm a little hesitant.

I'm most nervous about talking about our break up. Should I just avoid the topic completely or pepper it in? I feel like it may bring up a lot of negative thoughts about me, and that wouldn't be the best for my intentions to get back together with her.

I would probably avoid talking about the break up, though it's inevitable that it comes up, so when it does, try not to linger on it too much.

Like I said, make it a goal to try and show her you've changed yourself for the better, she'll like that.
 

Eggo

GameFan Alumnus
21 year old with oneitis

You missed out on this opportunity because you were too passive. 90% of the time women want the man to take charge and lead. If a woman wants to have sex with you, most of the time she won't unless you go through the courting ritual because she doesn't want to be seen as a slut. Think of it like driving. You control the accelerator, but she steers how far things go with whatever speed she is comfortable with. If you go too fast, she can tell you to slow down, but she can never tell you to speed up. If you don't escalate the physical contact, the relationship won't go anywhere, and you never made it past the friend stage (i.e., out of the gate) because you failed to initiate. Learn from this.

Nah, I can't use that excuse, because I live in the San Francisco Bay Area (though it ain't fun commuting to the city proper) so that's like, no excuse right there.

It's good you're trying not to make excuses...

Still hasn't happened. I'm definitely not holding out for that. By now I doubt there is anyone left on this forum sans City who'd be willing to put up with me in person, since they can barely put up with me online.

...but this is an excuse. Earlier in this thread, a person offered to introduce you to two of his friends who play games and are cool. Did you take him up on that? Also, how many hours do you spend working and commuting to work? If you're working more than 10 hours a day, it can be difficult to make time for a personal life, but if you're not working that much, there's plenty of time to socialize on a weeknight. I do it all the time, visiting friends and going out for drinks on weeknights, while working a 9 hr job (including lunch).

Ok GAF, I need some opinions.

So I've been regularly messaging these two girls on okcupid. In both situations, ~5 messages have been sent from both sides. I figured it was best to upgrade from okc messaging to texting, so I gave both of the girls my number.

Opinions? Am I over thinking the whole thing?

My opinion is you're doing it wrong and taking too long to get to the date. I often throw an invite into the first message asking to meet for drinks. If not the first, I'll do it by the second or third tops. I've had two multi-year relationships from girls I met on match, and my suggestion is keep the non-in-person communication to the bare minimum. I consider it wasting both of your time trying to build rapport online, because there is so much to face-to-face communication that is lost online. Why spend time developing a pen pal when you may meet and not feel any chemistry? Also, if the girl is hesitant to meet in-person, chances are she is not interested in dating.


Texted M again last night that I was really confused why she was ignoring me after SHE asked me to meet and talk. Now this morning:

Her: "I don't want to date anyone and I don't want to drag this out so just...so please understand. I don't want to meet on Tues. I'm sorry."
Me: "I'm glad you're finally honest, but you won't even use the phone and let me say what I wanted? I think you owe me that much...texts suck."

Seriously, texting sucks. She was the one dragging this out, not me. I actually feel a lot better knowing what she wants, but hiding behind texts is just pathetic.

Someone already mentioned this, but this girl doesn't owe you anything. You're a guy she made out with at a bar. If you haven't even been to second base with this girl, you're basically nobody. She doesn't owe you an explanation for flaking, but it's a good sign she called you back and apologized.

UgH. I'm rattled. I'm gonna write this down, even though seeing it written makes the situation sound worse than it is.

So i've been dating this girl for two months. We are incredibly similar, as in, we not only have the same likes and dislikes, we have the same problems. And we deal with them in the same way (by watching stand-up and laying in bed all day).

After a good week of not seeing each other, we (and by we, I mean she) had a five hour conversation. She's been going through a horrible time recently, with about seven problems compounding each other. And I felt terrible, because we're so similar if I knew how to make her happy, I'd already be happy.

She told she's been snapping on people lately, and I noticed she was doing the same thing with me.

One day later, one of her relatives died.

She said she was overwhelmed, and she wanted a break. I said fine, I can undersrand that kind of stress. I told her I was there for her if she needs me. I've texted her twice since then (ten days ago). I'm finding out things from other people, and feel like I'm the last one to know anything/ I'm inconveinencing her by even trying totalk to her.

I dunno, man...I mean, I WANT to see her. But I dont want to pressure her. On the one hand, a romantic gesture would be too much, I guess. On the other hand, I shouldn't be feeling bad for contacting my girlfriend two days in a row.

Thoughts?

All she wants is the offer of emotional support. If she doesn't take you up on it, that's her prerogative, but the comfort of knowing it's there is all she wants. Don't pester her by being too 'helpful.' Also, people have different times of when they feel comfortable opening up to a person. Some people tell you too much too soon, and some take a long time to build comfort before they bring you into their inner circle. She sounds like the latter.
 

soultron

Banned
Well, not exactly the same per say in some aspects.

I mean, I got myself into therapy and also got myself a personal trainer, that's two big things there. Plus I got a job since I think I was unemployed at the time of my ban.

baby steps!

Those are actually huge steps. Great work, Combine.

Hopefully you start feeling better, in general, because of those steps.
 
So naturally after I post about longing after my ex after three years apart, I go out to a bar tonight and see her for the first time since April 2010. She was with a big group of guys, so I assumed she was dating one of them. I drank and bowled my frustrations away, then sang karaoke for a couple hours. Talked to a couple girls, did some flirting, and now I'm hone eating a cold sub from Quiznos. Goddamn I miss her sometimes. Still heavilyh considering therapy for my issues with her and others. Where do I look? GOogle? Guhhh.
 

Rei_Toei

Fclvat sbe Pnanqn, ru?
I did some (digital) bridge burning: deleted my ex from FB, Skype and telephone. Explained to here beforehand it'd be easier for me. I'm pretty confident I'll be okay and also pretty sure I'm going to be okay with getting back in touch in a couple of months, but right now seemed for the best. She was quite sad about it though, which in turn made me sad about it. Within a month I'll be abroad for three months, after that we'll see.
 
Smoke, drink, party til you can't move and get her out your head. There's plenty more girls out there dude.

Who the fuck cares? No, seriously.

Let me put it in gaming terms for you. Chasing women is a bit like a game of Capture the Flag; if she's hot, chances are that other guys have noticed and someone is already tapping that ass. Your job is to become the one tapping that ass on the regular. You shouldn't get confrontational or critical of her current boyfriend but you still gotta make moves. If she sees that you could offer her more than the guy she's currently seeing, she probably won't care about already having a boyfriend either.

And move on. Assuming you follow our advice, you'll read your previous post in a few years and laugh at how ridiculous it is. She's the one and only? C'mon son.

Sounds to me like she's telling you, you could've had her if you had had the guts to take her. I'd take pride in that. But you REALLY need to let her go, and go out and find another woman. Staying single because you're waiting for this particular one to become available (which she might never ever become, nor is that a guarantee that you still have a shot at her) is a bad idea on a truly grand scale. Come on, the odds of a teenage crush lasting forever are not in your favor. You're 21 and have your whole life ahead of you. You're gonna hate yourself when you're older if you're gonna stay single on purpose during your prime. And if you find someone interesting later on, you'll not know what to do, unless you practice your ass off now.

Don't feel regret, don't blame yourself here because you did the best you could. If there's a lesson there about acting learn it. It's pointless to worry about past decisions and how they affect you know unless they're a pattern that needs broken, and that change only starts now anyways.

Waiting is never an option. Even if you were dating her and she wasn't your 'girlfriend' yet, I'd suggest still keeping your options open, and TRYING to date other girls. At the extreme you stay friends with her while dating other girls and if she becomes available play your hand, and if you find someone else you like, great.

Sorry to hear that man, I can really relate to a story like that. Truth is though you did the best you could. You made moves and she just reacted coldly, and I guess, sat around waiting for you to continue pursuing her. There has to be give and take, and if all she's doing is taking she wasn't worth your time to begin with. Let her be someone elses problem.



That was sort of a dick move on her part. And her heart isn't something you're supposed to win. If she actually said that, I say good riddance.
She isn't cold nor being a dick, she's quite gentle and funny the first time I had a proper conversation to her in 4 years, apologies for not putting more details.

Cpt.Underpants, listen to this man. This is spot on.

You're fooling yourself if you think she's the only one out there for you, especially at your age. Life isn't a scene from The Notebook. I understand you feel like you can't move on, and that makes sense if this is the only girl you've ever had feelings for in your life, but trust us, you can and WILL move on.

It's going to take some time, but the best thing to do now would be to distance yourself from her as hard as that sounds. You're not going to do yourself any favors by trying to maintain any sort of relationship with her, trust me I've been there. Use this as a learning experience and next time know that you can't just wait around forever. You need to be more assertive and take control of the situation early on.

You'll make it man, just hang in there. Best of luck!

You missed out on this opportunity because you were too passive. 90% of the time women want the man to take charge and lead. If a woman wants to have sex with you, most of the time she won't unless you go through the courting ritual because she doesn't want to be seen as a slut. Think of it like driving. You control the accelerator, but she steers how far things go with whatever speed she is comfortable with. If you go too fast, she can tell you to slow down, but she can never tell you to speed up. If you don't escalate the physical contact, the relationship won't go anywhere, and you never made it past the friend stage (i.e., out of the gate) because you failed to initiate. Learn from this.

Noted and thanks guys

And I must say I really did enjoy the time I spent with her, except the last part
 
Well I just had that date with that girl I was describing a few posts back.

We met up and went and got dinner.
Ate and chatted a long while which was good.
Then went went to an arcade and she kicked my ass at airhockey and basetball and bowling.
After that we went for a walk and ended back up at my car (I really did get lost) so she helped me find it.
I offered to drive her back to her cat but she said no thanks because it wasnt far at all.
We chatted a little but more and I openly said "wanna make out? I said this because alot of my dates end with nothing happening and then they kinda fizzle out so I though I might aswell since I have nothing to loose.
Well she actually laughed and said no not in a carpark so that kinda was a bust? lol But then I guess she knows I keen for next time?

Also on that note wheres a good place to take this girl on a second date that has a proper enviroment for that? We both live at home with parents still.
 

Klyka

Banned
Well, not exactly the same per say in some aspects.

I mean, I got myself into therapy and also got myself a personal trainer, that's two big things there. Plus I got a job since I think I was unemployed at the time of my ban.

baby steps!

That's actually really nice to read!
Keep it up man!
 

Idde

Member
Well, not exactly the same per say in some aspects.

I mean, I got myself into therapy and also got myself a personal trainer, that's two big things there. Plus I got a job since I think I was unemployed at the time of my ban.

baby steps!

Nope. Not just baby steps. Pretty cool. If I remember correctly you had the idea you werent making any progress? Working out is all about making progress. So is therapy. And having a job and being able to provide for yourself (if even a little bit) is definitely progress.You just have to start seeing it. Especially the fact that it was YOU who made this happen is pretty big. And you should be proud of that.

edit: perhaps it might help to just make a list of all the things you're proud of. Things you've accomplished yourself. Keep repeating them over and over.

edit 2: like having a Neogaf thread with over 17000 posts named after you!
 

Kalnos

Banned
We chatted a little but more and I openly said "wanna make out? I said this because alot of my dates end with nothing happening and then they kinda fizzle out so I though I might aswell since I have nothing to loose.
Well she actually laughed and said no not in a carpark so that kinda was a bust? lol But then I guess she knows I keen for next time?

I may be wrong here but why ask? Just go for it next time, if she doesn't want it she will tell you no.
 

Oozinator

Banned
Does being a non-fat guy constitutes a significant advantage for attracting girls in the US ? I hear most people are fat there. (5'10" 150lbs guy here)
 

low-G

Member
Does being a non-fat guy constitutes a significant advantage for attracting girls in the US ? I hear most people are fat there. (5'10" 150lbs guy here)

Most people aren't visibly fat here, this is coming from a guy that used to be quite the lardo but am now well on my way towards 'fit'. It's not like you'll come here and suddenly attract more women. You need to go to Japan for that.
 
I managed to land myself a date with a nice little lady this week - I'm taking her to a big german Christmas market in Birmingham (UK). I haven't been on a proper date in a long long time though, any tips? I don't really know her at all, and in the past I've only dated girls that I've known for quite a while, so it's new territory for me!
I went Saturday - it's so pretty! PLUS, (big bonus!) there's a nice 'bar area', so get your walking boots on, go and have a look around the stalls and maybe grab some candied nuts to share. Point out all the quirky little stalls and cool stuff and then go and top the day off with a good ol' German beer.

If you don't know here very well then this is your chance to GET to know her. Just ask questions, how long she lives in ?, if it's not very long then why did she move there, how does she like it, how about what she enjoys doing in her spare time? That will open up a whole line of questions... Don't forget to relate yourself in as well, it's okay to let her know some things about you too.

Most of all - try not to put too much pressure on YOURSELF, or you might come across as a bit 'awkward'.

Have fun! :) That's what dating and relationships are SUPPOSED to be about - honestly, in some cases people (male AND female) worry about it all TOO much. If you're single, be happy single or dating, if you're in a relationship be happy in it (unless, like Zatara, you are in a relationship with a selfish bitch who doesn't give a fuck about you - hope it all works out man, look after #1 <brofist>).
 

vitaminwateryum

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Well, not exactly the same per say in some aspects.

I mean, I got myself into therapy and also got myself a personal trainer, that's two big things there. Plus I got a job since I think I was unemployed at the time of my ban.

baby steps!

Ah, well good on you man. Some shit takes a while to fix.
 

Miguel

Member
Date #3 with this girl tomorrow, we'll see how it goes. She's going ice skating with a friend before and then we're supposed to meet for drinks. Not sure if drinks is with the friend or not, but either way, should be fun. Was somewhat hesitantly aggressive the first date which lead to some making out, 2nd date, her body language just pushed me off the idea of trying anything cause she seemed so out of it, so hopefully Wednesday it'll be a lot better, plus drinks will be involved, so time to ramp it up a few notches.
 
My opinion is you're doing it wrong and taking too long to get to the date. I often throw an invite into the first message asking to meet for drinks. If not the first, I'll do it by the second or third tops. I've had two multi-year relationships from girls I met on match, and my suggestion is keep the non-in-person communication to the bare minimum. I consider it wasting both of your time trying to build rapport online, because there is so much to face-to-face communication that is lost online. Why spend time developing a pen pal when you may meet and not feel any chemistry? Also, if the girl is hesitant to meet in-person, chances are she is not interested in dating.

I'll try this. But what do I do if the girls live ~an hour away? Most girls I see on okc that I'm interested in don't live 10 minutes away. How do I set up a date that requires one (or both of us) to drive a decent amount? Should I go out of my way to drive near her in a city I rarely go to? Or get her to come see me? How do I accomplish this?
 

Danj

Member
I finally got around to telling my therapist I have an OKCupid profile, seeing as how we don't seem to be making a great deal of progress helping me socialise in the "real world" so to speak. So next session he is going to bring his laptop in and we are going to look at my profile, which people on here said sucked balls.

Recently I have actually managed to exchange messages with a couple of women on there, it's just the conversations never really went anywhere. Probably because the only thing I know how to do is ask questions about their profile, which I am given to understand is an acceptable way to open a conversation on these kinds of sites.
 
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