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luoapp

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Crossposting from the Android Gaming thread, in case anyone here knows:

Has anyone here rooted their Kindle Fire to get the Android Market and installed GameDev Story and/or ChuChu Rocket? I really want both but it's going to suck if I go through all of the effort of rooting only for neither games of the games to work.
I tested chuchu works.
 

Cousteau

Member
I'd like to add some longer term feelings on my Kindle Fire purchase here since last time I kinda compared it to the iPad since that seemed where the conversation was heading, now I'd like to talk about it in a vacuum of sorts.

First off, I think the default interface is fine. I've gotten used to the carousel so that's no longer really an issue although I still think it's probably faster than it should be. I consider myself a tad better at these things than some middle aged person or older using a new touch device and I still think it's a tad too responsive if I had a learning curve on it. So while I think it's workable for our generation I do still worry that it's too touchy overall, there really shouldn't be any adjustment to this kind of thing.

I'm actually a big fan of the different content being segregated up at the top, I like having a books "tab," a music tab, newstand tab, and so on and each one I think integrates well into Amazon's store and does a good job showing you what's on your device and what's in the cloud, except the music app. The music app is not the worst music app I have ever used but it's fairly, well, stupid. I find the UI a tad bit idiotic to put it bluntly. Currently I have bought 5 songs from Amazon and it shows those songs, I bought them with free credit as I actually have no desire to buy lossy music on my own dime and they do show up in the player and I can play them from the cloud. Where it fails is in getting that music that's in the cloud onto my device, there's a big button right next to each artist saying download or something to that effect but if you don't have the entire album it instead prompts you to buy the entire album, I find that counter intuitive both from a UI perspective and from the perspective of buying individual songs instead of full albums. Of course you can actually download your individual songs from the cloud it just isn't apparent in a manner I find acceptable for the masses. The music player needs real work.

The books section is workable, I have good eyesight when corrected and the default font is already pleasant to me but there's not exactly a ton of options there so this is a "your mileage may very" thing. I do however find fault with the overall handling of ebooks. Amazon has this whispersync shit and knows whether or not I've finished a book, the Kindle Fire can even tell me if I've finished the book right from the main selection screen by saying 100% over the icon and yet for some silly reason it's labeled as new when I download it to my Kindle Fire for the first time. I find that silly. There's also very little in terms of organization options, all I get for views is list and grid and all I get for sorting my books is by author or by title. That's simple and it's workable but I'd also like to be able to sort by genre, date or maybe even rating as well. Also missing in the Kindle Fire is the collections option that the Kindle PC offers. So really, it's very bare bones. Now that's there is nicely laid out, the UI is fine the app is just very basic. Bookmarking a spot, notes, it's all working how I expected them to I just want more options. Currently I have less than 20 books on there, 6 I've purchased and a bunch of the free classics so the limited view and sorting options are not a real issue but I can see them being a pain in the ass as your collection grows.

I do have a remotely related gripe in regards to the ebooks and it's that I already have one with an error, I believe it's missing a page as one of the pages is blank and the next page sorta makes sense but it really doesn't. Is it worth contacting Amazon or the publisher over this, I mean, they could theoretically update an ebook and push out a new revision but is that something that they actually do or is that pretty much relegated to when they do a new edition like in print? Either way, not the Kindle Fire's fault nor really Amazon's as I'm sure Amazon just throws up what the publisher gives them but since a lot of these ebooks are asking for more than the paperback costs it's poor form to not only give them physically less but have editing issues not present in the paperback or hardcover as well.

I actually dig the browser. I like its bookmarks function, it works fast, actually has a pretty robust option that you can set per site as to whether or not to default to the mobile or full website, I honestly have no issue with the browser outside not being able to simply click on a spoiler tag like on my shit Palm Pre to read it, though highlighting it still works as if you were going to cut and paste, and as I griped before, sometimes the activity icon doesn't seem to get updated and what you think is a stalled browser or perhaps a mis-tap on your part is actually just fine and it is indeed loading. That can definitely be fixed. The size on this screen is of course an issue, you will need to pinch and zoom on many websites, just how it is. Overall it's not as good a browsing experience as a larger tablet could offer but it's actually very good.

Now I get to Apps. the store works, apps load correctly, they run, technically it's workable. Amazon does have some issues with some apps being billed as Kindle Fire compatible that probably shouldn't but that has only happened to me once, it was with a solitaire game and if I merely had the option to switch orientation it would have been serviceable I just couldn't. My main gripe with the app store is not the content, which is lacking compared to the Android Market, nor necessarily the speed of updates to apps that are on it, which is also slower than the market but Amazon themselves. Amazon moved in a slightly more Draconian manner than I thought they would this weekend. Previously apps that facilitated rooting the Kindle Fire, along with other Android devices, like Root Explorer where on the store and labeled as Kindle Fire compatible and were available for purchase and would install and run just fine. That's what I expected, allow things that could be used by some to root the device for those power users but of course not just selling the Fire rooted from the start, that's what I thought. Well not anymore, those apps are now no longer Kindle Fire compatible and if you had purchased them from a computer or even your Fire when they were listed as compatible if you had not installed them yet they will no longer show up in your app list and you can not install it on your Fire. That is fucking bullshit. I support pulling broken or malicious apps from your market, I don't support pulling apps from specific devices because you've decided this device can be rooted but this one can not. I also ran into this issue with the Crunchyroll app, an anime streaming app sorta like Hulu Plus. It's a free app and was originally listed as compatible with the Kindle Fire, so I "bought" it and had been using it. It worked. Crunchyroll was never the best designed app ever but it worked. Well I did a system restore after I originally rooted the Fire as I thought it was just too much hassle and wanted to go back and now I can't download it. I "own" the app still, I can see it on Amazon's site proper but I can't get it on my Kindle Fire as they've pulled it. I really don't like this type of retroactive activity on Amazon's part. I also do not like the complete absence of communication from Amazon to their users on why they can't download something that was previously offered. They don't even show me the shit in the app and say "this has been temporarily suspended as we work with the author to fix y" Just nothing, it just doesn't show any more. So before this move by Amazon we already had less apps and less frequent and slower app updates but now I have them retroactively pulling apps from "the cloud" that I've purchased so that I can't install them, this has actually soured me quite a bit on Amazon's App Store.

Amazon also seems to be in a rush to really tarnish the whole concept of "Kindle Fire": edition apps on their appstore with the Facebook and Twitter "apps" being nothing more than bookmarks that reside in your app section that launch the browser to the mobile version of their respective sites. That's a fucking joke. I don't give two shits about Twitter or Facebook but if you're going to say it's a Kindle Fire edition app it better at least be a fucking app to begin with let alone be theoretically optimized for the screen of the Kindle Fire.

Sideloading does indeed work fine as I have done with Andchat and I think it's easy enough.

I only watched one video and frankly, not impressed at all with Amazon Prime's streaming to the Fire. I know this screen isn't 720p or 1080p but it's also like 7 fucking inches and isn't a total dog shit resolution either, there's no real excuse for this level of quality on the device.

Cut/Copy and Paste does indeed work as luoapp and khefka mentioned, thanks for that guys, my app was saying it had copied info to the clipboard in the notification area but in KeePassDroid you actually need to go to your entry and then down at the settings area tell it to copy the password, after that it worked as expected. That had initially been the only thing I tried to copy and now I've tried copying other text and it all works as I had thought it should. So I needed to set that straight.

I do like the form factor for books and I have found it easier to read books on than the iPad, I know that wasn't what I claimed I'd say, but the weight is still a tad heavy for really long extended usage periods but still easier because at least the weights in a smaller area. Overall it didn't "melt away in my hand" as the Amazon welcome letter claimed they had tried to do with it but it is by no means too uncomfortable.

Overall I still really dig it, the order of stuff I do with it goes ebooks, for which I like Amazon's store the most, web browsing, email and irc with web browsing really being the only thing that's truly a middling experience versus other tablets and all the rest being more or less great. Also keep in mind that I actually got this for 180 as I had a 20 dollar credit that I used when I bought this, for a hundred and eighty dollars I think it's an incredible device. The only thing I think is really an issue is that Kindle's on everything, this isn't like Apple where if I want to use their store I need to be on their device, you can install Kindle on any tablet, almost any phone, if ebooks are your primary concern the Kindle Reader App for the iPad was just as good as the one on the Fire with the only difference being in app purchases, many people may feel the freedom afforded by using a different tablet in conjunction with the respective Kindle App offers a better value, with some of the devices out now and some soon to be released I find it hard to argue against that logic. Amazon's UI I do like but if I had a 20 dollar credit and free shipping on a different tablet would I have bit on that one instead? Maybe so in all honesty. I don't find the Kindle Fire compelling in any area so if you had another similarly spec'ed android tablet for the same price it'd be hard to offer a point in the Kindle's favor outside of in app purchases of Amazon content, however, if you've decided that you are going to go it with Amazon's ebook service and are the type of person to buy shit on the fly it really is a convenient way to buy and read Amazon ebooks.

As an aside I've seen some people say content is king or that the Kindle Fire smokes everyone on content and frankly I think that's a lie. I like Apple's video store way better than Amazon's, the video quality was better too. Apple's music store beats the shit out of Amazon's and the iPod software in their iPad is better than the Kindle Fire's. Once you get down to ebooks, well you can buy and read ebooks from Amazon, Barnes and Nobel and Apple on the iPad natively without converting by using their respective apps and you can read ebooks from Barnes and Nobel and Amazon on any other Android tablet. Netflix and Hulu? Everyone's got it. So honestly, whenever you see a reviewer say there's so much more content on the Kindle Fire than elsewhere, they're full of shit. What the Kindle Fire does excel at is allowing you to seamlessly purchase Amazon's content. The Nook app isn't even on Amazon's store, you know you can't get Apple's content natively on the Kindle Fire, aside from Netflix and Hulu what other content does the Fire have besides Amazon's? But it's easy, if you're in the book section you can shop for books right there, same for music, it's a very seamless experience and I think better than Apple's approach as that's the only one I have a personal history with but as for the actual content, with the Kindle Fire you are pretty much placing yourself firmly in the Amazon camp for EVERYTHING.

This is my 1st ebook,thanks... can't wait for book 2.
 

mAcOdIn

Member
I had this problem until I realized I was skipping a step.

You tap the password and it gives you the notification that the password was copied, then you go to the website where you need to use that password, then you tap the notification, and only then can you paste that password.

I guess it does that because you can input a user name and password and it will put both in your notifications, then you tap each one as you need it.

Ah, I got it to work buy clicking the menu button on the bottom and choosing to copy the password.
This is my 1st ebook,thanks... can't wait for book 2.
Don't get used to the price, next time I plan to charge 2.99.
 

Captain N

Junior Member
I borrowed Hunger Games with Amazon Prime and think its a great feature. I also love how it will tell me how far in the book I am base on % complete. That might be a feature in all Kindles, but I love it.
 

upandaway

Member
Finally arrived here. It's pretty cool.

I'm gonna power-use it offline mostly so it's not a big deal, but still, did they region-lock by IP? My Amazon has only a US address and the Kindle location is set to US and it's still saying I can't download apps. Not on the PC and not on the Fire.
 

KamenSenshi

Junior Member
What's the consensus on cases here? I didn't bother to grab one at the time of purchase and have been waiting for a clear "best",but there doesn't seem to be one.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
What's the consensus on cases here? I didn't bother to grab one at the time of purchase and have been waiting for a clear "best",but there doesn't seem to be one.

I have found that I don't really need one for mine, because of the rubberized back and the shock-proof gasket around the bezel. BUT I also discovered that my OG Kindle case, generation 1, works perrfectly while reading. It fits like a glove vertically, and leaves a little edge on the right hand side that you can rest your thumb on while reading, effectivley the right hand edge by thumb and forefinger.

And then when I wrap the built-in elastic band around for transport, it works perfectly.
 

KamenSenshi

Junior Member
I wasn't planning on getting one at first but have been going back and forth on that decision lately, so its good to hear that the regular case provides a good layer of protection for travel. I just have a thing about not getting any marks/scratches on my electronics.
 

GhaleonEB

Member
I finally got my Kindle Fire in after it went through a 3-day ordeal in Japanese customs... they even opened the package. Luckily, everything was intact.

I'm pleasantly surprised so far. All the negative remarks I had heard made me think this would be another first gen iPhone or something ridiculous. But having gone in with the expectation of wanting the device for consuming content, I'm quite pleased. The web browser works just fine and in widescreen mode, the screen's smaller size is not a problem at all. It's resolution is also very good, IMO.

Reading books is also a nice experience; the text is easily readable and the screen size makes it feel like I'm reading a book, unlike the iPad (which feels like I'm reading an essay written on paper). In Japan, the video streaming functionality doesn't work due to region locking, but that's not a big deal for me at the moment.

There are quirks that need to be worked out; it really needs a physical Home Button, non-English keyboard support, a more customizable front menu, and more native (non-scaled) apps. Some touchscreen gestures don't work as intended, but the frequency this occurs isn't what I was dreading from the things I had read about.

Overall, I can sense tons of potential in this device, even within the first generation. A couple of firmware upgrades would hopefully flush out the quirks that typically accompany new products, and the next gen will hopefully be lighter, have a camera/Bluetooth support and be even faster. At the price Amazon offers this at, I wouldn't mind upgrading every 2 years.

My wife and I were looking considering a tablet for Christmas - we're hilariously light on mobile tech in our house - and looked into the Kindle Fire heavily. (The iPad is too expensive.)

We were *this* close to picking up the Fire, but enough reviews expressed this sentiment, and given the kind of improvements second generation tech products tend to see, we decided to hold off until next year. If they can get a camera in there and smooth out the kinks next year, we'll be picking one up for sure.

I'm not interested in annual upgrades, so I want to spring when the platform has matured a bit.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
I wasn't planning on getting one at first but have been going back and forth on that decision lately, so its good to hear that the regular case provides a good layer of protection for travel. I just have a thing about not getting any marks/scratches on my electronics.

I am betting you could find a great microsuede gift bag at a card store for a couple of dollars that would work as a sleeve.
 

upandaway

Member
Finally arrived here. It's pretty cool.

I'm gonna power-use it offline mostly so it's not a big deal, but still, did they region-lock by IP? My Amazon has only a US address and the Kindle location is set to US and it's still saying I can't download apps. Not on the PC and not on the Fire.
I'm just wondering, will this work if someone else in the US "bought" a free app and I logged into that and just downloaded it? As in, where is the region-locking happening?
 
Crossposting from the Android Gaming thread, in case anyone here knows:

Has anyone here rooted their Kindle Fire to get the Android Market and installed GameDev Story and/or ChuChu Rocket? I really want both but it's going to suck if I go through all of the effort of rooting only for neither games of the games to work.

For ChuChu rockets there is no need to 'root' the Fire, you can just side load the APK and it works fine. The only problem, and it's not really a "problem", is that it has the ugliest low resolution icon on the carousel. I tried to edit the APK in 7zip without unzipping it, but I still must have messed up the signature. So then I used APK manager to extract, zip, and resign, but that didn't work either. Finally, I said 'fuck it' and moved on with my life. I didn't try GameDev Story.
 

BiggNife

Member
For ChuChu rockets there is no need to 'root' the Fire, you can just side load the APK and it works fine. The only problem, and it's not really a "problem", is that it has the ugliest low resolution icon on the carousel. I tried to edit the APK in 7zip without unzipping it, but I still must have messed up the signature. So then I used APK manager to extract, zip, and resign, but that didn't work either. Finally, I said 'fuck it' and moved on with my life. I didn't try GameDev Story.

Yeah this seems to be a annoying problem with anything that's sideloaded. I sideloaded GetJar and downloaded a bunch of apps, and while they work just fine they all have the ugly blown up icons. It's kind of ridiculous that there's no way to hide icons on the Home screen.

Also did anyone else notice that Dead Space is no longer searchable on the Amazon App Store? I google searched and found this:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0066T0EVE/?tag=neogaf0e-20

I hope this is only temporary. I was strongly considering buying it because I'm a huge Dead Space fan and I heard a lot of good things about the iOS/Android game.
 

Orrichio

Member
Yeah this seems to be a annoying problem with anything that's sideloaded. I sideloaded GetJar and downloaded a bunch of apps, and while they work just fine they all have the ugly blown up icons. It's kind of ridiculous that there's no way to hide icons on the Home screen.

Also did anyone else notice that Dead Space is no longer searchable on the Amazon App Store? I google searched and found this:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0066T0EVE/?tag=neogaf0e-20

I hope this is only temporary. I was strongly considering buying it because I'm a huge Dead Space fan and I heard a lot of good things about the iOS/Android game.

Woah. I just looked the other day and it was selling and now it's not..? Weird it looked decent, too.
 

Kosmo

Banned
My wife and I were looking considering a tablet for Christmas - we're hilariously light on mobile tech in our house - and looked into the Kindle Fire heavily. (The iPad is too expensive.)

We were *this* close to picking up the Fire, but enough reviews expressed this sentiment, and given the kind of improvements second generation tech products tend to see, we decided to hold off until next year. If they can get a camera in there and smooth out the kinks next year, we'll be picking one up for sure.

I'm not interested in annual upgrades, so I want to spring when the platform has matured a bit.

My thoughts as well. We have a 1st gen iPad and it's great (I don't want to take pictures with my iPad, sorry). But for the Fire, I'm holding off until 2nd gen.
 

BiggNife

Member
Woah. I just looked the other day and it was selling and now it's not..? Weird it looked decent, too.

Yeah, I saw it a day or two ago too. My guess is that they're taking it down temporarily while they work on a patch since the reviews mention control problems and constant crashes.

At least, I hope that's what they're doing. It would be pretty shitty of EA to release a version of Dead Space Android specifically for the Fire and then stop selling it two weeks later.
 

bangai-o

Banned
Zinio works. except the icon is low res ugly.

i subbed to Show magazine lingerie edition. It is a magazine about super photoshopped girls with big butts posing in front of plain background.

also subbed to World Policy Journal. As far as I can tell, these articles are very well "academic" style articles. Stuff that you usually have to be logged into your .edu account to be able to read.

games

there is an R-Type game on sale for 99 cents usually 2.99. I want it, but the reviews say it crashes.

feed reader

Pulse is pretty cool. I guess I wont be using google reader very much anymore.

i started streaming 24 with the free month of instant and the quality is very good, probably because my campus has very good internet.

email app sound effect notification i dont understand. Whats the point of notifying me if it only works when the app is launched. For example wouldnt it make since to notify me if Im watching a tv show, or reading a book?

Last FM does not work thru the browser.
 

jvm

Gamasutra.
email app sound effect notification i dont understand. Whats the point of notifying me if it only works when the app is launched. For example wouldnt it make since to notify me if Im watching a tv show, or reading a book?
I get notifications of email in games and (I believe) in Amazon video streams. But I'm using Enhanced Email (which was free sometime since Fire launch), not the stock app.
 

mAcOdIn

Member
In the normal email client there is an option to get "push" updates, that should be what you want to choose if you want it to tell you when you get a mail as opposed to just whenever you check your mail.
 

luoapp

Member
Just a heads-up for anyone want to use a mic on Fire, you need
A headset with a headphone/microphone combo

OR

A microphone with a 4-conductor plug (jack with three dividers)

These headphone/mic combos have a 4-conductor plug (a TRRS), to accommodate two stereo channels for the headphones plus the mic (audio left, audio right, mic, and neutral). A normal stereo headset has a 3-conductor plug called a TRS (left, right, and neutral).

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1363215


edit: seems like there are still kinks need to work out before can be used with skype or google voice ( works with voice recording apps now).
 

dLMN8R

Member
The more I think about this Nook Tablet vs. Kindle Fire competition, the more I'm curious about a huge area most reviews seemed to have overlooked.

Is it just me, or am I on to something thinking that Amazon will be far quicker to update the Kindle Fire with significant OS updates, perhaps newer Android versions, than B&N would be to update the Nook Tablet?

Firstly, Amazon has been a software and services company for much longer than B&N. Agility is ingrained in their entire company from developers to project managers, and they have to know that frequent updates are 100% necessary to keep customers happy.

Secondly, if Amazon truly is losing money on every device sold, which seems extremely likely, there's negative incentive for them to move recent Kindle Fire purchasers onto the newer and better devices. They need to keep Fire users continually using the Fire if they want to break even or make a profit on them, buying content, but in order for people to buy content, they need to be happy with the device. That means significant software updates to improve the underlying system making the devices people already have more pleasant to use.


As I've said, I'm pretty happy now with the state the Fire is in now, but I'm also very interested to see how much it would improve with some flavor of Honeycomb or Ice Cream Sandwich under the covers. Hardware accelerated graphics rendering please!
 

mAcOdIn

Member
The more I think about this Nook Tablet vs. Kindle Fire competition, the more I'm curious about a huge area most reviews seemed to have overlooked.

Is it just me, or am I on to something thinking that Amazon will be far quicker to update the Kindle Fire with significant OS updates, perhaps newer Android versions, than B&N would be to update the Nook Tablet?

Firstly, Amazon has been a software and services company for much longer than B&N. Agility is ingrained in their entire company from developers to project managers, and they have to know that frequent updates are 100% necessary to keep customers happy.

Secondly, if Amazon truly is losing money on every device sold, which seems extremely likely, there's negative incentive for them to move recent Kindle Fire purchasers onto the newer and better devices. They need to keep Fire users continually using the Fire if they want to break even or make a profit on them, buying content, but in order for people to buy content, they need to be happy with the device. That means significant software updates to improve the underlying system making the devices people already have more pleasant to use.


As I've said, I'm pretty happy now with the state the Fire is in now, but I'm also very interested to see how much it would improve with some flavor of Honeycomb or Ice Cream Sandwich under the covers. Hardware accelerated graphics rendering please!

I'd say you'd have to wait and see. I don't like these types of predictions but BOTH companies have been in the e-reader business for more or less the same amount of time and Barnes and Noble has been in the Android tablet business longer than Amazon while Amazon's been in the Android App Store business longer than Barnes and Noble. Really can't draw anything from that.

I tried to see if I could find a list of all released firmware but I couldn't so I couldn't easily compare their past support.
 

luoapp

Member
According to the developers on xda, Nook tablet is "efused", which means you can't get custom built system (e.g., Ice cream sandwich) on it.
 
The more I think about this Nook Tablet vs. Kindle Fire competition, the more I'm curious about a huge area most reviews seemed to have overlooked.

Is it just me, or am I on to something thinking that Amazon will be far quicker to update the Kindle Fire with significant OS updates, perhaps newer Android versions, than B&N would be to update the Nook Tablet?

Firstly, Amazon has been a software and services company for much longer than B&N. Agility is ingrained in their entire company from developers to project managers, and they have to know that frequent updates are 100% necessary to keep customers happy.

Secondly, if Amazon truly is losing money on every device sold, which seems extremely likely, there's negative incentive for them to move recent Kindle Fire purchasers onto the newer and better devices. They need to keep Fire users continually using the Fire if they want to break even or make a profit on them, buying content, but in order for people to buy content, they need to be happy with the device. That means significant software updates to improve the underlying system making the devices people already have more pleasant to use.


As I've said, I'm pretty happy now with the state the Fire is in now, but I'm also very interested to see how much it would improve with some flavor of Honeycomb or Ice Cream Sandwich under the covers. Hardware accelerated graphics rendering please!

I'm not sure they would be quicker. B&N has been fairly quick and frequent with updates to the Nook, Nook Color, and Nook Touch.
 

jogarrr

Member
Just caught my Fire restarting when I wasn't using it. Checked and it looks like it auto-updated to 6.2. Not sure what's changed yet as I haven't used it since the update.

Heads Up for any who have rooted: A quick google search shows that it removes root access for those who have rooted.
 

BFIB

Member
I'd really like to see Pinball FX2 on the Kindle Fire. Love me some pinball, and the few they have are decent, but the effects of Pinball FX would be a blast to play.
 

jvm

Gamasutra.
I'm not sure, I'd ask, are they on GAF?
I got the impression that the devs posted on the official forums for Zen Pinball. I've only been over there once, when there was an annoying bug in Marvel Pinball and I never subscribed or posted. However, someone from the company was giving out early access to Marvel Pinball tables for testing before final release, as I recall.
 

jvm

Gamasutra.
My Fire auto-updated, I think, and it kind of freaked me out. I had set the name of my tablet to "My Kindle Fire" and when I started it up this afternoon it said "My kindle" (lowercase). I thought "oh crap, someone got into my account and changed stuff ... hope they didn't buy anything". Then I checked and, no, my system's name was still supposed to be "My Kindle Fire" according to amazon.com

Powered off and started back up (as opposed to sleeping) and *boom* back to normal.

*whew*

No time to really test stuff yet. Hope there's a good list of improvements put together by the online community at some point.
 

Gattsu25

Banned
No time to really test stuff yet. Hope there's a good list of improvements put together by the online community at some point.
The community shouldn't have to poke around and find out what was changed.

Whatever happened to changelogs?
 

jvm

Gamasutra.
The community shouldn't have to poke around and find out what was changed.

Whatever happened to changelogs?
Kids today don't know what a changelog is. Back in my day, we had to FTP the changelogs and read them using ed.
 

shawnlreed

Member
My personal experiece with the Kindle Fire has been less than ideal.
On several different books I've had the next page load up as completely blank.
I have to exit out of the book once or twice before the actual page will load in.
Some of the games hitch and choke during play pretty horrendously.
Some of them even cause the speakers to emit a loud crackling sound.
Finally, why can't Amazon be bothered to put acutal page numbers on the books?
I understand changing fonts, letter size and margins will change the total page number, but even so, it feels wrong that they left out this feature.
 
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Deleted member 47027

Unconfirmed Member
Just bought one. My purpose in getting it is to read comics in the dark. I should be content.
 

kazinova

Member
My personal experiece with the Kindle Fire has been less than ideal.
On several different books I've had the next page load up as completely blank.
I have to exit out of the book once or twice before the actual page will load in.
Some of the games hitch and choke during play pretty horrendously.
Some of them even cause the speakers to emit a loud crackling sound.
Finally, why can't Amazon be bothered to put acutal page numbers on the books?
I understand changing fonts, letter size and margins will change the total page number, but even so, it feels wrong that they left out this feature.

Sounds like you either haven't updated the device or you got a lemon. I've had Cut the Rope crash out the home twice but other than that I haven't had many problems.

The keyboard is absolute garbage compared to my Windows Phone, so that sucks, but most touch keyboards are garbage so I can't hold that against them.
 

luoapp

Member
Edit: Come to think of it, what's the best video converter for the Kindle Fire? Handbrake?

You don't need video converter if you already have the video file rather than a physical disk. Sideload a video player ( like moboplayer I am using) and enjoy. Someone should put this in the op.
 
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