lowrider007
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That's a point, were hand-held games void from being in their GOTY considerations?
Giant Bomb's Game of the Year Thread: Skyrim? Skyrim? Skyrim? Skyrim? Skylanders!
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Hot Coldman
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They should have given Skyrim PS3 their WorstGOTY in order to restore the balance. ;P
The opposite of love is apathy.
they only chose games in their Personal top ten lists. Since none of the portables made it, they weren't even considered.
As was explicitly stated by them on the podcast numerous times, the award does not apply to the PS3 version.
AcceptableGhost
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So if Skyrim doesn't apply to the PS3 does that make Saint's Row 3 Giant Bomb's PS3 game of the year?
You should ask them! They all use Twitter, a few of them have Formspring accounts, and Jeff does Jar Time videos. I would suspect if you were to reformat the list according to that qualifier, Saints Row: The Third would be number one, with everything else bumped up a spot and Mortal Kombat slipped in to number 10.
I don't see apathy, I see a list of some middling games people are surprised didn't get a real look in, nor did Halo Anny, the biggest 360 exclusive of the year by far.
Even the smaller PS3 games most people could over look often get lots of love from GiantBomb, Shatter for example, lots of PS3 owners wouldn't have even heard of that.
The_Darkest_Red
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I don't see Resistance 3 as middling, far from it actually, but it wasn't exactly a popular game so I can understand why it didn't get much attention from them. Also, wasn't the biggest 360 exclusive from 2011 Gears 3? Besides that, Halo Anniversary is kind of in a different category since it's a remake.
And come on, how often does Giant Bomb talk extensively about a PSN exclusive game? Shatter is more of an exception than anything. Remember Ryan's comments about Joe Danger from a few weeks ago?
Again, let me reiterate that none of this bothers me very much because I'm fine with the GB guys just being a group of normal dudes who like what they like, but I do think it's kind of obvious that they show more apathy to certain consoles than others.
You're right, they do, they admit it, and most of us have come to accept it too. Then why does it have to be endlessly repeated in GB threads time and time again every single week?
The_Darkest_Red
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Because people like Stu keep acting like it doesn't exist.
Bastion, The Witcher 2, and Gears of War 3 would also be eliminated. Maybe Dark Souls would make the list!
Really, I don't think that Giant Bomb has anything against the PS3, it's just kind of in the back of their minds. It's not really much of a priority. I feel almost exactly the same way about the Wii. There's nothing really wrong with the platform, it's just not where I expect to play video games.
I don't expect them to be completely impartial, so they can act however they like.
Forgot about Gears, good point yeah. And how often does PSN get high profile exclusives? Because that's about as often as they're discussed. Flower talk was endless. They talked about Journey the other day. Wipeout got covered, as did Joe Danger. The PixelJunk games get covered quite a lot.
The_Darkest_Red
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You're right, PSN has not had many high profile exclusives lately so there hasn't really been a lot for them to talk about on that front.
I don't think GB is nearly as apathetic towards the PS3 as a whole compared to the Wii or any handheld system, but it's there enough to be noticeable when they talk about games like Resistance 3 and Killzone 3. I think both of those games had MP components that were worth discussing in the "best competitive MP" segment, at least, and the graphics were no slouch either.
I never intended to talk about it this much though, it was just supposed to be one little comment but I guess I got carried away. I'm done now.
I think multiplayer is different. Ultimately I just don't think they are ignoring any PS3 games for any reason other than they don't like them. Personally I'd say R3 and KZ3 are no where near worthy of GotY consideration, in any regard. But there are things that stand out, most notably GoW3 not being mentioned when discussing the best looking games that year. But that seems more like incompetence than anything else.You're right, PSN has not had many high profile exclusives lately so there hasn't really been a lot for them to talk about on that front.
I don't think GB is nearly as apathetic towards the PS3 as a whole compared to the Wii or any handheld system, but it's there enough to be noticeable when they talk about games like Resistance 3 and Killzone 3. I think both of those games had MP components that were worth discussing in the "best competitive MP" segment, at least, and the graphics were no slouch either.
I never intended to talk about it this much though, it was just supposed to be one little comment but I guess I got carried away. I'm done now.
The_Darkest_Red
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I guess I just don't remember who played what. Did anyone other than Patrick play Resistance 3? Did any of the guys play the MP of either game for more than an hour or so? Did any of them try the co-op in Resistance 3?
For the record I don't think R3 and KZ3 are GotY material either (although R3 is number 10 on my list), but I do think they could have been legitimate nominees for some of the specific awards.
And I totally agree about GeoW3. I was really surprised they didn't mention it when discussing best looking game.
EDIT: More importantly, Greg Kasavin's Top 10 is so fantastic. Ghost Trick, Dark Souls, and Tactics Ogre at number 1? Love it.
I don't know, someone posted their profiles earlier in the thread, you could probably check. But even if they didn't, which wouldn't surprise me, you have to consider the high profile 360 games they also didn't bother playing. I know Jeff was vicious about Crysis 2, a game I think is significantly better than those two PS3 shooters. I think it's more they just don't care in general.
It's funny, I imagined as the generation went on, we'd actually get more exclusives, but it seems we're getting considerably less. There's virtually nothing exclusive on either coming up I expect them to really cover in a huge way. Journey won't be too long, and I expect a similar reception to Flower with that, but overall, I expect less exclusives in their GotY next year than so far.
StopMakingSense
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Is there going to be a bombast today so we can hear Brad's thoughts on GAF (once again)?
infinityBCRT
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What did Brad have to say about GAF last time?
@taswell (Ryan Davis) confirmed that there will be a podcast today.
@taswell (Ryan Davis) confirmed that there will be a podcast today.
IamMattFox
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Huzzah!Dave said:
giant_frying_pan
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Video evidence of Brad pulling a repeater on Ryan, thus sealing the GOTY deal!
From the talk on the podcasts most of them played Saint's row on PC.
I think that's alright though. People do play games for their aesthetic qualities, and you just have to recognize that that pretty much describes the Bombcast. I can definitely see why it'd make their opinions superficial to others though.
Can anyone think of a game that any of them have gotten hardcore obsessive into? The only one that really springs to mind is Jeff with Trackmania 2, and that might still be because he just loves the nonsense of running a server and playing 24/7 dubstep.
funkystudent
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jeff actually played through it first on ps3.
even recorded the QL from the ps3 version.
shocking I know.
I guess THQ sent them a ps3 copy because thats the only logical explanation.
They still recorded all the post release videos from the 360 version though. TNT, GOTY stuff so they got 360 copies eventually.
Neuromancer
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The texture work is pretty rough on PS3, makes me wonder what it's like on 360.
EDIT: Look at the rocks behind my girl:
I vomited
Foliorum Viridum
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And here I was thinking it wasn't much of a looker on PC.
I think you have to expect a game of that scope to look bad compared to the tighter, linear games. Generally I think it looks fine on PS3. GTA4 looked much better, but it cost a lot more too.
Brad with Starcraft.
Jeff with Modern Warfare (supposedly), and Borderlands. And hell, I'd say he was as obsessive as one could get with Saints Row.
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Are they actually doing another podcast today?
cuevas. PhD.
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You're right, PSN has not had many high profile exclusives lately so there hasn't really been a lot for them to talk about on that front.
I don't think GB is nearly as apathetic towards the PS3 as a whole compared to the Wii or any handheld system, but it's there enough to be noticeable when they talk about games like Resistance 3 and Killzone 3. I think both of those games had MP components that were worth discussing in the "best competitive MP" segment, at least, and the graphics were no slouch either.
I never intended to talk about it this much though, it was just supposed to be one little comment but I guess I got carried away. I'm done now.
Why would they consider resistance 3 when it took out all the amazing things from Resistance 2 multi and just made it generic shooter number 58 but with some alien guns?
Just because it was intentional doesn't mean it wasn't pointless.
If Bethesda admitted "yeah we secretly hate Sony so it being broken is intentional" would that make it ok as well? GTFO with that nonsense.
brianmcdoogle
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Resistance has never been as good of a series as Playstation fans make it out to be, so maybe that's why it gets ignored.
Ghost_Protocol
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Holy shit
Not that surprising since it sounds like they did the GotY podcasts a week or two prior to Christmas.
Manus
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I just don't understand the love they gave to Saints Row 3. I just recently beat it and found it to be pretty boring and tedious. Their were several times I had to restart some missions because some NPCs glitched and I couldn't progress. It just felt like 75% of the game was escort someone here in a helicopter or go to this spot on the map and kill thugs. I did enjoy the hacker mission and wrestling match.
IamMattFox
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I think I remember Jeff saying he spent a crap ton of time with Burnout Paradise.
ThanksVision
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I listened to 2010's GOTY awards (final day) show just for kicks... It's amazing how quickly they gave it to Mass Effect 2. I wish these guys would actually, ya know, come to the studio on recording day with some notes and arguments written down. I feel like it takes them FOREVER to get a simple point across.
He also said he played some P4 at home as well as doing the whole Endurance Run with Vinny.
hey_it's_that_dog
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Just got to the part where Jeff argues that Dark Souls isn't a good game because the description of one item was poorly translated/inaccurate. And he keeps saying that when information is at a premium, it has to be good information, but doesn't come up with another example of bad information the game gives you.
Why is this tiny problem a reason to wipe the game off the top 10? Because Jeff knows he doesn't like the game and had to come up with a reason why, but he only played a little of it and has little info to work with to come up with an explanation for his judgment. So the mistranslation gets blown out of proportion.
Note that I am not saying everyone has to like Dark Souls. I'm just saying this is a hilarious thing to fixate on in a game with so much content.
Jamie Madigan wrote a cool blog post about GOTY debates last year. This incident reminded me of it.
http://www.psychologyofgames.com/2010/12/the-psychology-of-game-of-the-year-debates/
Why is this tiny problem a reason to wipe the game off the top 10? Because Jeff knows he doesn't like the game and had to come up with a reason why, but he only played a little of it and has little info to work with to come up with an explanation for his judgment. So the mistranslation gets blown out of proportion.
Note that I am not saying everyone has to like Dark Souls. I'm just saying this is a hilarious thing to fixate on in a game with so much content.
Jamie Madigan wrote a cool blog post about GOTY debates last year. This incident reminded me of it.
http://www.psychologyofgames.com/2010/12/the-psychology-of-game-of-the-year-debates/
Ghost_Protocol
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I don't even understand what it was about the item he mentioned that was confusing. Was he talking about the rare ring of sacrifice? What was his problem?
EDIT: Oh, the Tiny being's ring.
OnlyWonderBoy
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I like that it's raw and unscripted. In any argument you're bound to repeat points if the opposition won't budge.
hey_it's_that_dog
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I have to assume it's the Tiny Being's ring, which is one of the items you can pick at the start of the game. The description makes it sound like it regenerates health over time, but it really just increases your max health by some negligible amount. The translation may have been fixed in the patch already, I'm not sure.
I didn't notice any other instances of misinformation in the game.
This.