finowns
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I felt that the ending just came out of no where. Very confusing.
Seems like I was playing ME and than got put into a quasi deus ex game. My Shepherd is not a philosopher hes a killer.
Mass Effect 3 SPOILER THREAD: LOTS OF SPECULATION FROM EVERYONE
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I felt that the ending just came out of no where. Very confusing.
Seems like I was playing ME and than got put into a quasi deus ex game. My Shepherd is not a philosopher hes a killer.
cluxdeluxe
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Penny arcade fanfic is the best yet!
I don't think they understand why people are angry about the ending.
Was this Forbes thing ever posted here? Hard to tell when the thread moves so fast.
Dumb fuckers like Kucheras should take a look at this.
Dumb fuckers like Kucheras should take a look at this.
alysonwheel
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That'd be great, especially if your character's species was dependent on who your Shepard romanced. Like, the human descendant of the reporter lady, or Garrus' great grandchild, or Liara's actual blue Shep-baby.
Glad somebody noticed that.
Finished the game two days ago. Now I have a strange feeling of... not wanting to play again this game.
Yesterday i read from page 200 to 240 of this thread and some pages in the BSN forum. Do not remember something like this since some Halo game years ago.
Somehow this reminds me of an episode of The Simpsons where people destroy a casino and somebody runs with a giant ace of spades on fire.
I wonder how this will be seen by other studies.
Oh I forgot about interspecies relationship :lol I'm not sure a descendant of Shepard is going to work then.
But yeah choosing your race from the descendants of the all species army would be neat.
I'm guessing they could do that, even it would cost a bit I guess.
Game designers/writers forbid that we demand quality from their work. As a web designer, if a client is not happy with my work, I'd have no choice but to rework it, providing they understand that it'd take some time (and possibly extra budget). But you never ever tell the client to fuck off or that they are entitled loser, no matter how frustrated you are. That's not professional at all. If clients are not happy, they can easily not hire you next time they need something. I don't see why the same standard can't be expected out of game designer/writers. We pay a lot of money for their products.
dragonelite
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When they say A but do B.
Isn't that what people call a scam.
They knew dam well what people wanted hell even promised it wont be like B before release of the game. So everyone expects A but still got B.
But i paid for A not B.
I feel i should be entitled to get A and not B.
/Doesn't make a lot of sense indoctrination and you guys have to speculate on it.
Uh, I read Tycho's one as going against the notion that authors are invincible and all-knowing and should never revise their work, while Gabe as usual enjoyed it and doesn't see why others did not (which is fair enough)
Empty Space
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So we get Mass Effect 4: Origins and then in Mass Effect 5 we are forced to play a human name Falcun is the colony of Kirkshield.
Edit: I just realized my post looks like i'm trying to make fun of you. I'm not the similarities just kind of jumped out at me.
The return of shit planet?
alysonwheel
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If they limited it to Shep's potential lovers (with Liara and the female human LIs you can say they conceived on that last night on the Normandy; with the others you can say they moved on to other partners and/or adopted) you're only looking at quarian, turian, human, and asari, and all of them have pretty similar speaking patterns. You could get away with two actors, one for male and one for female, and just throw some processing on the turian one to give it that
sexy
It's nothing more than a strawman people use to sound intelligent to worm their way out of actually having to think and propose an actual counterargument.
Bioware and EA. They are both based around sales rather than creating a long term relationship.
Activision goes the long term relationship route. Sure they lack innovation, but they do put in the effort to support the fanbase that actually keeps buying all their installments and dlc.
Penny arcade fanfic is the best yet!
Bioware should make this ending, it seems this is the ending everyone wants. I'm indifferent with the ending of the game. I guess i do not understand the outrage, or maybe now it all has become some internet meme now.
Agree they seem to be missing the point a little (maybe willfully so).
Not really.
NO
No one is angry because the ending isn't happy. People aren't outraged because Shepard died. It's what happens after Shepard collapses with Anderson dead that has everyone angry. I'm not sure how you could have read all the outrage and not understood.
The Incarnation
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The Mass Effect Relays blowing up transports a surviving Kai Leng into the future, dominated by the Varren, Vorcha and the Pyjaks, who are in the mist of a Galaxy wide war.
The possibilities are endless.
Yeah, this is what I meant.
Sounds like the end of the Jet li movie "the One".
*Papa Roach music fades in*
Of course, you wouldn't understand. Did you even try to read the posts, the various blog posts or even youtube video's, explaining peoples gripes? How about taking at least 5 minutes to understand the situation?
A great Angry Review http://angryjoeshow.com/2012/03/mass-effect-3-angry-review-2/ for once I fully agree with him.
whatevermort
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Sorry, but that's bullshit. If you read a novel and the novel has a bad ending, do you demand that the writer change it? No. You say, I enjoyed it, but the ending was a bit of a letdown. Same with movies. Same with music, for god's sake. This is entitlement. They finished the game the way that they wanted, telling the story that they wanted to tell. Some people don't like it. That's not anybody's problem to fix; it's the people who don't like the ending's problem to get over.
Riposte
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Nah, Joker releases them into a pond on that planet which can support all kinds of life (e.g. human, turian, quarian, etc).
See what I mean?
But I'll humor your shitty argument. They promised us prerelease to have what was it, 16 different endings? They gave us 1 with pallet swaps.
Based on their promises and statements, are we really not entitled to what we were promised prerelease?
Empty Space
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Other mediums do not evolve in the manner video games do. Nothing else in the entire world gets DLC and that needs to be taken into consideration when talking about games.
Thank you.
But gamers can certainly demand patches and balance changes to a game's systems. It seems narrative (or 'art') is sacrosanct, however.
Except in that case I guess.
I honestly don't think it's leaning one way or the other. It's far more likely to be one of them going "What would the happiest ending to Mass Effect 3 be?"
Once you realize this is just about all Penny Arcade boils down to it becomes so boring to read their comics.
Considering this:
http://penny-arcade.com/2012/03/14/mass-effect-3-ending-spoiler-warning
I think it's pretty much them missing the point.
Take it as the idea of a Reaper man culling a field of wheat to prevent the entire field from dying and it makes a certain kind of sense. Not very much though.
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- Lack of closure
- Lack of truly consequential choices as a result of player actions throughout the entire trilogy
- Space wizard magic crucible beyond the bounds of suspension of disbelief
- Ham-fisted use of ghost child in a failed attempt to create false emotional attachment
- Barely any difference in the endings
- Unexplained developments (Normandy heading other way, squadmates disappear once beam hits, no real explanation of what synthesis actually means)
- Sudden, heavy-handed, explicit 'it turns out this game was about synthetics v organics' theme-driving despite a lack of focus as the overarching theme of the series thus far
Dude
- Lack of closure
- Lack of truly consequential choices as a result of player actions throughout the entire trilogy
- Space wizard magic crucible beyond the bounds of suspension of disbelief
- Ham-fisted use of ghost child in a failed attempt to create false emotional attachment
- Barely any difference in the endings
- Unexplained developments (Normandy heading other way, squadmates disappear once beam hits, no real explanation of what synthesis actually means)
- Sudden, heavy-handed, explicit 'it turns out this game was about synthetics v organics' theme-driving despite a lack of focus as the overarching theme of the series thus far
I think it's a 50/50 split on that. But according to their own DLC/Codex the Mass Relays being destroyed should've wiped out each system they were in, various other plot holes as well.
My own personal opinion is that if they're going to make more ME games then the Relays should be gone and have the games be more about exploration.
That's a shame. A Dance with Dragons would really need an Ending DLC
Two different medium. And bad movies do get savaged by critics and its director will find it hard to gain cred later. Either way, you can't say that the audience just don't "get it". That's BS. It's your problem that you can't tell story that others like or appreciate. And your rudeness will only serve to drive your customer away from your next project.
Also movies don't promise you that you can do so and so but only to reveal that you can't. It's a passive medium that doesn't require your audience active participation. OTOH, this game advertises itself that what you do matters. But it didn't deliver that.
I think people are upset about the fact that the ending disregards all player choices and decisions and abandons the tropes and themes of the series for...I dunno, nothing.
It's one of the things that aids in upsetting people, but it's not why people are upset. The Mass Relays could have died and people wouldn't be flipping their shit like this.
whatevermort
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Not really. People promise things. By this logic, Molyneux would have been torn apart by gamers by now. People promise things will be good: they are sometimes not. The 'If you hire somebody to do a job and they do it badly' thing is flawed, as nobody's hiring Bioware to do anything. You're buying an end product that they have created. And they can promise anything and renege on it, because this isn't Kickstarter. Nobody's paid a deposit they can't get back at the start of development; everybody who is actually invested in the success of ME3 is happy; it's a subset of gamers who hate the ending who feel entitled - yes, that word - to more based on things that Bioware have or haven't said or delivered in the past.
elrechazado
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Uhh...you missed some tearing.
Empty Space
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Best summation of it IMO in video form
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H_A7SeawU4&list=LLv6VtvI0UhQZIbJ547RhEKw&feature=mh_lolz
Are you mocking my answer or just taking stabs at a a SOIAF I can't really tell.
whatevermort
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Again: rubbish. I've seen trailers for movies with scenes in them that aren't in the final film. Should I storm those castles and demand reparations? Some movies divide critics: some see art movies as dross, others love them. I know somebody who loves Transformers 2. It's a fucking dreadful film, but he loves it. That's fine. Whatever. You didn't like ME3. Okay. So... You know. Move on. Play something else.
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