Ninja Scooter
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It's not so much that it plays games, as others have mentioned, a TI-83 plays games, but that money is being made selling games. Apple is a part of the gaming market now as much as people hate to say it.
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It's not so much that it plays games, as others have mentioned, a TI-83 plays games, but that money is being made selling games. Apple is a part of the gaming market now as much as people hate to say it.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
He's referring to the "Kindle Fire" tablet rather than the "Kindle" eInk reader.
Uno Venova
Banned
ipad is good for watching shows too. I call it media consumption device.
D.Lo
Member
Whoa - that must be the most successful game of all time! I bet their revenue is amazing for free downloads!
So, is there a problem with the PC is to Console as iOS device is to handheld anology?
People buy the former because it can do so much more than the latter, and for some people because it can play games. The latter is dedicated to gaming and is generally better at it, but there's no reason both can't survive. Or is there something faulty with that logic?
People buy the former because it can do so much more than the latter, and for some people because it can play games. The latter is dedicated to gaming and is generally better at it, but there's no reason both can't survive. Or is there something faulty with that logic?
shinra-bansho
Member
In isolation, sure.
If the decline of a market where they see something like a 10% marketshare would substantially benefit a market where they hold a 50-60% share, then I don't see why not.
Ideally they'd exist in parallel of course.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Does the Xbox allow streaming of Netflix, Hulu, ESPN? Does it have social networking sites like Facebook and Twitter? Whatabout music services? Does it also allow you to stream from your home network? Well those aren't gaming features. Guess the Xbox isn't a gaming device.
Wiktor
Member
I think their revenues are pretty pitful considering the game has been downloaded like half billion times. In 2011 they had about 100 mln dollars revenue. If I'm not mistaken Nintendo had more revenue on Pokemon Black and White than Rovio did on Angry Birds.
I don' think most people realize just how little money there is in iOS gaming compared to other platforms.
JonathanPower
Member
How is Vita for web brosing ? Would you use Vita to post on neogaf ? I would not. However, I would use an Ipad to post on neogaf. Will you use a Wii U to post on neogaf ? Well, maybe. This is the reason. Vita is essentially a portable gaming console, and you can only play games on it. Hardcore gamers are the main target of vita, the casuals will not care about it. Nintendo is smart.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
Fuck. Every app is going to get an update for the new iPad and my connection is slow as fuck.
I think the main difference, is people buy PC's just for gaming. They build them completely with gaming in mind. On PC's, consoles and handhelds you can buy triple A $60 games. Games studios dump tons of money, and sometimes years into.
This is not the case with the IPAD, at least right now. The IPAD is also designed and marketed without games in mind. All you have to do is watch the IPAD 3 reveal keynote for that to think in. A couple companies showing off two pieces of shit. It was a tack on.
When companies start to invest money into big budget, triple A Ipad games. Then I think all this will change.
Remember that the iPad is only two years old. You can't expect AAA support in just two years.
I am not saying the IPAD won't become a primary gaming device in the future. I am just saying it's simply not there right now.
Fantastical
Death Prophet
Alright, clearly the iPad is not primarily a gaming device. That is where the distinction is being made.
mclaren777
Member
Epic doesn't make a good games so what does it know?
Risk Breaker
Member
I've posted on gaf with my Vita. It's absolutely false that "you can only play games on it". Why do you feel the need to lie?
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
I don't think the AAA model would survive on iOS.
He's right, though. Just because it has games, doesn't make a gaming device.
Like just because a movie has funny moments, doesn't make it a comedy.
It depends on what the primary use and intention is.
SO.... I still consider an iPad a gaming device, since many people DO use it primarily as a gaming device. Or their only device.
Come the fuck on.
Devices too tons of things these days, but just because they have a feature doesn't mean its good at it. iPad is a tablet that plays games. That was what I was trying to say. Home consoles, 3ds and Vita are better for gaming than iOS, period.
Edit: thanks mrkgoo, well said
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
I hope so.
Risk Breaker
Member
Why not? If it's considered a gaming device as much as the others, not having "AAA support" on its first year is usually considered a failure.
I have iPhone 4S, iPad and Vita. I use all 3 to post on GAF, browse Twitter and FaceBook.
I watch YouTube on iPad and iPhone 4S, but I listen to music on Vita because of Music Unlimited.
Of course I game on Vita too.
Vita is indeed a core gamer machine now. But it's because of the price and Sony's current focus.
Wiktor
Member
I agree, but that doesn't mean the iPad isn't a gaming device.
Technosteve
Banned
Every game on iPad will be funded only by kick starter
Change into a non-AAA model?
AAAA it is, then.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Who has been banned?
Wiktor
Member
Risk Breaker
Member
Yeah, twitter and Music Unlimited work great on Vita.
JordanLMiller
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Wario
JonathanPower
Member
Well, off couse you can, if you like pain. As you just said, you posted on gaf with vita, however you are not posting on gaf right now with vita. I bet you will not be posting on neogaf with vita very often.
If in some terrifying future Apple really does take over the games industry, there would definitely be a market left over from the console/PC era in which AAA games could succeed on the iPad. Providing there was a bluetooth controller or something
Psychoward
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ClovingWestbrook
Banned
lol.
captmcblack
Member
The iPad is a gaming device somewhere in between a Roku box and a console.
It isn't designed with gaming as its primary purpose, and shouldn't have people pushing that narrative (unless it's to troll/rile people up). It is good at playing games, though - so it should be discussed like that.
It isn't designed with gaming as its primary purpose, and shouldn't have people pushing that narrative (unless it's to troll/rile people up). It is good at playing games, though - so it should be discussed like that.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Who are these "people"? Seems like every other iPad thread on here so far.
Making up shit to undermine the moderation crew can get you banned too.
ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Not sure about Shadow but Utako was most likely banned for the banned meme of 'U Mad'.
Risk Breaker
Member
And I do it with my phone even less, because Vita is more comfortable for me. But my laptop is ultimately the fastest and most comfortable option so that's what I use 98% of the time.
By comparison, I had never ever posted with my PSP, DS or PS3. Note that all those are very old systems.
Now, could you answer why were you lying and outright saying that "you can only use games on Vita"? You are ignoring video playback, twitter, or music, offline or online. And you can use all that while gaming without problems or waiting. So?
JordanLMiller
Member
As an aside - I don't know if I'm more disappointed that Apple chose to spend its cash by paying it out stock holders or that I'm not one of those stock holders...
Fantastical
Death Prophet
I can only see two people banned and they were on opposite sides of the argument.
lucius
Member
I have 2 iPhones and an iPad 2 and enjoy them but this BS over hyping this thing as taking over gaming is a bit out of hand, because it is a lie.
What becomes of iOS devices in 5-10 years that may develop into something that dominates gaming, but it sure won't be iPad3 or even iPad4. Likely be something new that plays iOS games that comes with a proper controller.
What becomes of iOS devices in 5-10 years that may develop into something that dominates gaming, but it sure won't be iPad3 or even iPad4. Likely be something new that plays iOS games that comes with a proper controller.
shinra-bansho
Member
As far as functionality goes, a desktop computer is far more functional for posting on a forum, or doing anything that involves typing really, than a tablet.
In fact, it does nearly every conceivable task better, save for being portable. But... laptops.
And yet, here we all are talking about the death of the PC and the post-PC world that Apple is ushering in for us.
I don't think the Vita's poor sales have anything to do with how shit its browser is.
Gears is amazing.
