Real Box Office Talk: TDKR v The Hobbit. Worldwide. What say you?
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From all the positive buzz surrounding it so far. Also internationally it will do better if the third act is what it sounds like.
Clayton Bigsby
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This post should not go unnoticed for the sheer absurdity of it.
SCULLIBUNDO
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You're about to be taken to school, boy.
Hobbits really are amazing creatures. You can learn all that there is to know about them in a month, and yet after a hundred years, they can still surprise you.
Crazy talk.
Over 100 million copies of The Hobbit have been sold. Wtf are you even talking about?
Clayton Bigsby
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So much hyperbole in this thread. Calm down and back away from your computer. It will be close.
Although I think Hobbit is more universal, Batman has probably sold more over the years. I can't find stats unfortunately.
Why you guys laughing? If you go to the third world countries, the odds are they have no clues what a freaking hobbit is, while very familiar with Batman
Do we have data how many Batman comics been sold?
ok that gif cracked me up
Do we have data how many Batman comics been sold?
ok that gif cracked me up
SCULLIBUNDO
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I didn't realize third world countries made up a huge portion of the box office. Dude, you are about to learn the hard way. The Hobbit is going to make Batman it's bitch.
that's not true.
growing up in third world country, I can say that Batman and Superman are the biggest two superheroes BY FAR, not even close
Spider-Man 3 outgrossed TDK internationally because it was third friggin' movie in a successful franchise. TDK outgrossed both SM1 and SM2 overseas. With Begins pretty much resurrecting a dead movie franchise, it's with TDK that Batman got its footing with international audiences.
freenudemacusers
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But third world countries have no influence on box office...
http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=ironman2.htm
check out this foreign box office Iron Man 2 for example: check out Brazil, Mexico, Russia, China, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore numbers. They are pretty size-able. Though some of those countries may not be categorized as Third World, but I bet you those people know more about Batman than a freakin hobbit
I've said before I expect TDKR to make over 600m overseas, but I won't be surprised in the least if ASM actually makes more in the overseas market.
Edit: And SM3 made more than TDK in Mexico , Brazil, Russia and Singapore.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Bingo. And like I said before: you are about to be in for a rude shock.
Seriously speaking the Hobbit is the weakest/boring species in the LOTR IMO. Even the fucking dwarves looked like they were far more interesting ..
The Anti-Monitor
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There's no shortage of dwarves in The Hobbit.
I think a lot of people here are really underestimating the popularity of LOTR. Hobbit will be the highest grossing movie this year.
Doubt it, SM3 is not fondly remembered by anyone. ASM will easily be the least successful spidermayne movie.
shira
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All those damn 2nd world countries
True. But the movie is titled "Hobbit". I dont remember anyone fondly remembering that species. By ROTK, Hobbits on screen meant the movie started to drag.
On the same note, you dont find the people underestimating TDKR surprising?
Well while I think TDKR will do better than TDK (but the Hobbit will eventually beat it worldwide) some arguments would be that TDK had the Joker/Heath Ledger hype going for it, also Bane isn't really as popular and well known as The Joker... (plus he was part of the worst Batman movie ever made).
TDK broke blu-ray records at the time, sold a heck of a lot of units on DVD. Surely, Christian Bale died at the time of its release, amirite
Is this a joke? Worldwide, The Hobbit is going to smoke TDKR. Jackson will make sure that everyone will believe this is LOTR 4: The Hobbit, despite being a prequel. The early trailers will be drab, but wait until later in the summer.. This is one of the most beloved books of all time.
TDKR will probably get 100m extra in NA though.
Prediction
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The Hobbit: $1.5B
TDKR: $1.1B w/$550m from NA
TDKR will probably get 100m extra in NA though.
Prediction
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The Hobbit: $1.5B
TDKR: $1.1B w/$550m from NA
I'm a nerd that liked The Dark Knight, but I'm not that interested in seeing Rises at the cinema, I could easily just wait until it's out on Bluray.
The Hobbit however...
Neuromancer
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Hobbit should win. Nolan's Batman movies are so ridiculously overrated.
Funny, that's exactly how I feel about TTT and ROTK. Nevermind that the last two Jackson pics were garbage.
Only Blu? Pretty slanted view to arrive at that hollow win.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Yet RotK is better than any Nolan movie. :O
SCULLIBUNDO
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Okay, this I can't agree with. LOL. Urgh why did it have to be Jack Black?
As ridiculous as your ROTK one.
No. Just........NO. And I say that as a card carrying member of the "Nolan is overrated and can't write for shit" club.
King Kong is my single most hated movie of the past decade. What I wanted was a fun 90 minute action romp. What I got was 180 minutes of Peter Jackson jerking himself off.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Yep. It was Jackson basking in all of his post-LotR glory and deciding there was no more need for restraint.
Fellowship made $550 million OS 11 years ago which is about $750 million with inflation. That was the first in the series and did not carry the end of the series hype like ROTK. Factor in 3D tickets and The Hobbit will rake in the OS market. It's following the release date formula of the LOTR films and will face very little in the way of competition.
StealthGoblin
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I think some people are letting their love of particular directors and their own likes/dislikes of franchises get in the way of the stats.
Yup.
SCULLIBUNDO
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All I see is nervous laughter.
I can think of at least 5 RotK scenes off the top of my head that are better than anything Nolan has done. The film is not without it's flaws (ghosts deux ex), but it is still ridiculously good.
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