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[Walshicus]

What makes you think people give a shit about full blown Windows on tablet devices?

The near universal expression of interest in Surface.

News flash: MS has been crapping out full-blown Windows on tablet devices for the past decade now and no one has been buying them. Quite frankly, no one gives a shit about full-blown Windows on tablets.

"News flash:" Surface looks to be the first coincidence of quality hardware, tablet interface and a full windows OS. That counts for a lot. There is a clear market for a device that works as both a consumer tablet on the go and a workstation which doesn't compromise itself in either area.

Windows RT might've had a chance to put a dent in the iPad market, but they decided to shove a gimped desktop on there just so they can get Office running on mobile hardware--which does nothing but compromise the tablet experience and confuse consumers. Good game, MS.

I'm not even sure what you're talking about here.

 

[The Faceless Master]

<3 Surface (Pro)

 

[clav]

Man, the Surface thread is really unbearable.

omg, awesome
no it sucks! apple 4 lyfe!
no, u suck!

etc


I hope WP won't ever be popular.

That's the gist of every Microsoft thread.

 

[brotkasten]

That's the gist of every Microsoft thread.

Except for this one. <3

 

[Troll]

I wish the Kin never happened, then I could get legitimately excited about the prospect of an Microsoft branded WP. The Surface looks sick af.

 

[brotkasten]

I wish the Kin never happened, then I could get legitimately excited about the prospect of an Microsoft branded WP. The Surface looks sick af.

The KIN had only one good thing and that was the KIN Studio, nowadays knows as "your phone stuff in the cloud". If that doesn't happen tomorrow, I really don't know how to react.

 

[tino]

What I like about Surface is it bring MS/Apple/google fanboys into th same heated thread. Its like Nintendo announce a full scaled realistic FPS on E3 and go head to head with Halo and Killzone. :lol:

 

[clav]

Except for this one. <3

If you can't say that after tomorrow, we're in trouble here.

 

[Milchjon]

The KIN had only one good thing and that was the KIN Studio, nowadays knows as "your phone stuff in the cloud". If that doesn't happen tomorrow, I really don't know how to react.

Ah shit, Surface almost made me forget about tomorrow. How much are we gonna see and at what time is it?

I'm prepared to be disappointed.

 

[brotkasten]

Ah shit, Surface almost made me forget about tomorrow. How much are we gonna see and at what time is it?

I'm prepared to be disappointed.

It starts 9 AM PST and yes, there will be a live stream.

 

[Troll]

Ah shit, Surface almost made me forget about tomorrow. How much are we gonna see and at what time is it?

I'm prepared to be disappointed.

9am PST.


I was in the mindset that this was going to be more of the same, but maybe... just maybe Microsoft is turning a corner. It's fun to watch.

 

[JaggedSac]

I am prepared for Joe to make me want to hurl my Titan at the screen in anger.

 

[clav]

I am prepared for Joe to make me want to hurl my Titan at the screen in anger.

Pull a Brettison.

 

[kehs]

It starts 9 AM PST and yes, there will be a live stream.

woot woot

Any links to it yet?

 

[Troll]

It's crazy how Microsoft can keep Apollo and the Surface a secret, and iOS 6 and the iPhone 5 get leaked.

I never thought I would see the day.

 

[clav]

woot woot

Any links to it yet?

Not live yet:

http://aka.ms/wpsummit

 

[Windu]

damn i will be in class. well, so much for paying attention to the professor.

 

[brotkasten]

damn i will be in class. well, so much for paying attention to the professor.

Don't worry, there won't be a working live stream for Windows Phone.

 

[clav]

Don't worry, there won't be a working live stream for Windows Phone.

Are you making the OT?

 

[brotkasten]

Are you making the OT?

I don't know. Am I?

 

[clav]

I don't know. Am I?

¯\_(&#12484_/¯

 

[derFeef]

I don't know. Am I?

I can't figure you out sometimes...

 

[gcubed]

I don't know. Am I?

can you make the new Android OT once your get your Sony (or did you already?). We need help, the people who volunteer to do the OT get banned all the time

 

[Windu]

Don't worry, there won't be a working live stream for Windows Phone.

i have a 3gs (waiting for the contract to be up....its getting slooooww)

 

[brotkasten]

can you make the new Android OT once your get your Sony (or did you already?). We need help, the people who volunteer to do the OT get banned all the time

Maybe it's a curse? Do you secretly want me to get banned?

 

[gcubed]

i have a 3gs (waiting for the contract to be up....its getting slooooww)

getting?! you sir are a saint to be able to deal with that. I've used friends iphone 4's with the latest ios and there is a lot of stutter and delay.

Maybe it's a curse? Do you secretly want me to get banned?

its not a curse, its just andrex and copernicus. it just happens

 

[VanMardigan]

Poaching OS fanboys for OT-making purposes should be a bannable offense if it isn't already.

The nerve, you didn't even pm him, just outright daylight robbery attempt.

Brot is ours for at least another 24 hours, at which point Joe Belfiore decides if he becomes a free agent.

 

[gcubed]

Poaching OS fanboys for OT-making purposes should be a bannable offense if it isn't already.

The nerve, you didn't even pm him, just outright daylight robbery attempt.

Brot is ours for at least another 24 hours, at which point Joe Belfiore decides if he becomes a free agent.

he can do both, since he's bi-phoneal

 

[derFeef]

It just struck me, I know I am slow, but how are the chances of a MS WP8 hardware device? I already said it in the Surface thread (what a place) but a Zune-like Phone would be great.

 

[thirty]

Surface for Windows Phone 8 announcement tomorrow. BELiEVE!

 

[kharma45]

It just struck me, I know I am slow, but how are the chances of a MS WP8 hardware device? I already said it in the Surface thread (what a place) but a Zune-like Phone would be great.

I can't see it unless they buy-out Nokia.

 

[thirty]

with a built in stand and surface keyboard connectivity?

 

[Windu]

It just struck me, I know I am slow, but how are the chances of a MS WP8 hardware device? I already said it in the Surface thread (what a place) but a Zune-like Phone would be great.

they have nokia for that

 

[VanMardigan]

he can do both, since he's bi-phoneal

Not yet he isn't!!! *shakes fist angrily*

 

[derFeef]

they have nokia for that

Love my 800, but a slick Zune phone... mhh.
Tomorrow is all about Apollo right, no hardware rumblings? I am a bit out of the loop.

 

[DagsJT]

Is Apollo expected to be released for all WP7 devices tomorrow?

 

[frontieruk]

The near universal expression of interest in Surface.


"News flash:" Surface looks to be the first coincidence of quality hardware, tablet interface and a full windows OS. That counts for a lot. There is a clear market for a device that works as both a consumer tablet on the go and a workstation which doesn't compromise itself in either area.


I'm not even sure what you're talking about here.

Love my 800, but a slick Zune phone... mhh.
Tomorrow is all about Apollo right, no hardware rumblings? I am a bit out of the loop.

Tbh with ms managing to be tight lipped recently there could be... Nah who am I kidding, they'll talk about tango, mention a new sdk for Apollo is coming and maye show some of apollos features running on a lumia 900

 

[Milchjon]

My Lumia 800's battery is still shit after all the updates, but I'm still not fully committed to trying to exchange it due to having no backup (since my PC is still broken, not even a a backup of the media.). Meh.

 

[VanMardigan]

Is Apollo expected to be released for all WP7 devices tomorrow?

No, Tango may release starting tomorrow for existing devices. Apollo is currently expected for new devices launching this fall only. Existing phones are expected to get a subset of Apollo features.

 

[DagsJT]

No, Tango may release starting tomorrow for existing devices. Apollo is currently expected for new devices launching this fall only. Existing phones are expected to get a subset of Apollo features.

So they're kind of abandoning the likes of the Lumia 800, which hasn't even been out that long? Not cool.

 

[Milchjon]

So they're kind of abandoning the likes of the Lumia 800, which hasn't even been out that long? Not cool.

Well, there are going to be technological changes that make it impossible to bring full Apollo over. But as long as you get the features, why should you care.

 

[DagsJT]

To be honest, tethering is the only thing I'm really missing on my Lumia 800 so if that gets implemented then I guess I'd be happy enough with that.

 

[brotkasten]

Well, there are going to be technological changes that make it impossible to bring full Apollo over. But as long as you get the features, why should you care.

Technically it's possible, but it's just not worth it.

 

[Fjolle]

To be honest, tethering is the only thing I'm really missing on my Lumia 800 so if that gets implemented then I guess I'd be happy enough with that.

That will come in Tango.

I have no idea what their plans for WP8 are.. Someone who should know just wrote that while we shouldn't expect magical unicorns, there should be something for existing WP users to be excited about. But the event is mainly aimed for developers...

 

[Milchjon]

Technically it's possible, but it's just not worth it.

Spoiler

TBH, I still don't even know what a "kernel"/kernel change even means ;-)

 

[Frost_Ace]

My Lumia 800's battery is still shit after all the updates, but I'm still not fully committed to trying to exchange it due to having no backup (since my PC is still broken, not even a a backup of the media.). Meh.

I did an hard reset and now the battery life is fine.

 

[Milchjon]

I did an hard reset and now the battery life is fine.

Link to instructions?

 

[Frost_Ace]

Link to instructions?

settings>info on>restore to factory setting

it'll wipe out all your data but it'll keep the firmware.

 

[hwalker84]

Spoiler

TBH, I still don't even know what a "kernel"/kernel change even means ;-)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kernel_(computing)

 

[Windu]

Paul Thurott said on What the Tech to look at his site around 9:30 tomorrow. He said what he posts you won't need to look at the liveblog, says he already knows everything.