Fitness |OT4| Squat Booty, Summer Cuts, and Super Swoletrophy

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Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Yeah its stiff as hell. How did you go about breaking it in?

I would roll it tight one direction and pin it with a weight over night, then roll it the other direction tight the other way and weight it down again. I did that for about a week (maybe 2).

After that wear it as much as you can to help heat it up and sweat it up to break it in. It's going to SUCK for deadlifts right now with how rigid it is.

Rolling it is going to give your hands a hell of a work out btw.
 

PantherLotus

Professional Schmuck
What's that little line that goes from the collar bone to the armpit? Whatever that's called, I just saw mine pop out while doing some upright rows. Felt so freaking good.
 

balddemon

Banned
What's that little line that goes from the collar bone to the armpit? Whatever that's called, I just saw mine pop out while doing some upright rows. Felt so freaking good.

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that?
 

Anbokr

Bull on a Donut
Are you exercising the same muscles two days in a row or something?

Nope. Feel like it's a combination of barely doing any labor for a couple years + Accutane (which is known to cause muscle/joint aches). But is there anyway to help recovery? Honestly feels like my quad, arm, and back muscles are just locked in place. Like can't put pressure or move past a certain point -_-. It's tightness more than anything. Really want to be able put in a Friday workout.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Nope. Feel like it's a combination of barely doing any labor for a couple years + Accutane (which is known to cause muscle/joint aches). But is there anyway to help recovery? Honestly feels like my quad, arm, and back muscles are just locked in place. Like can't put pressure or move past a certain point -_-. It's tightness more than anything. Really want to be able put in a Friday workout.

I cannot read this and look at your avatar and take you seriously.

You might want to go to the doctor if anything is "locked in place." And you definitely shouldn't go to the gym.
 
Nope. Feel like it's a combination of barely doing any labor for a couple years + Accutane (which is known to cause muscle/joint aches). But is there anyway to help recovery? Honestly feels like my quad, arm, and back muscles are just locked in place. Like can't put pressure or move past a certain point -_-. It's tightness more than anything. Really want to be able put in a Friday workout.

Listen to your body. Don't try and force any workouts, you're likely to just injure yourself. Are you stretching after your workouts?
 
So I took the last week off of my diet and my routine. It felt amazing. I only gained about 4 lbs which I'm sure was all water weight and I lost absolutely no strength. I was on vacation so I ate whatever the hell I wanted and didn't count any calories or macros. It was amazing.

Today I'm starting back on and while getting back onto my diet was hard because of the carb cravings I'm pumped as hell to get back into the gym. I set a new PR on bench press yesterday and I'm hoping to do the same on OHP today too.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
Posted these in the pic thread. They are having a leg contest not that I think I'd "win" anyway, especially if Darth shows up.

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Need to cut some more definitely, but at least you can see pretty well.

You wear that thing to bench in? Why?

Helps me stay tight, I thought it would be silly when I first started, but it really does help. Perhaps it's just mental though.
 

reilo

learning some important life lessons from magical Negroes
The truth is I thought it was called something. It's obviously the line between the pectoral and the shoulder muscles.

Acromioclavicular joint.

Don't strain it like I did and then have to be away from doing any arm related workouts going on for 2 months...

Alienshogun: Some people read this thread at work, fyi :p
 
The truth is I thought it was called something. It's obviously the line between the pectoral and the shoulder muscles.
I think the deltoid (shoulder) can be split up into three different names. According to Google, it's the anterior head (what I'm thinking you're talking about), the middle head (side view of the top of your arm), and the posterior head (small band between the middle head and back muscles. Google 'anterior head deltoid' and see if that's what you're talking about

And damn shogun. Hopefully I'll get around that size. Don't wanna get bigger than that though. I remember Darth's pics and that was freaky
 

Mr.City

Member
Nope. Didn't stretch too well before either...

Going over your post history in this thread, it sounds like you haven't read the OP, and surprise, surprise, complications are going up. You sound confused in lost in how to program, recover, and eat for your goals. Perhaps it's time to read the OP.
 
Hey guys ,
I've been going to the gym with my buddy for about a month now and I always feel like my left arm is never going to catch up to my right.
When doing curls or anything like that it feels like my right arm is being held back by my left. The right arm never gets super swore but my left always does.

Is there any thing I can do to "even" them out?
 

Fushin

Member
Nope. Feel like it's a combination of barely doing any labor for a couple years + Accutane (which is known to cause muscle/joint aches). But is there anyway to help recovery? Honestly feels like my quad, arm, and back muscles are just locked in place. Like can't put pressure or move past a certain point -_-. It's tightness more than anything. Really want to be able put in a Friday workout.

Your problems don't sound like they come from taking Accutane. I took it a couple years ago while unloading trucks and working a labor intensive job yet never came across any joint issues. I would caution you though that it may affect your digestive system. It messed mine up royally making it hard to eat the amount of food I'd like in order to bulk. I've only just now begun to digest milk semi normally.

With regards to your stiffness I'd agree with Mr.City in reading the OP and Anbokr on stretching more. Working out with cold and stiff muscles will cause you serious issues.
 

Anbokr

Bull on a Donut
Going over your post history in this thread, it sounds like you haven't read the OP, and surprise, surprise, complications are going up. You sound confused in lost in how to program, recover, and eat for your goals. Perhaps it's time to read the OP.

Yeah I've only really skimmed the OP. My buddy is a personal trainer and he's been directing me at a discount so I kinda trusted his judgement. However some of the stuff he says or doesn't say leaves
Me with a ? that probably should lead me to fully reading the op.
 

Mr.City

Member
Yeah I've only really skimmed the OP. My buddy is a personal trainer and he's been directing me at a discount so I kinda trusted his judgement. However some of the stuff he says or doesn't say leaves
Me with a ? that probably should lead me to fully reading the op.

Acquiring more information is never harmful. What type of advice does he give you?
 

Anbokr

Bull on a Donut
Basically, eat 150g+ protein per day (30g per meal with fats and carbs), EAT EAT EAT (I weight 146 lb), 3 days of weight training and muscle exercises for an hour per week, 3 days of HIIT cardio. I can't even remember half the exercises he makes me do, but they seem to be targeting many different muscle groups. He says everyone is sore for their first 1-3 weeks, just fight through it, and rest on off days. As for diet, more specifically he said go 14 days with only leans/greens, 15th day cheat (eat whatever you want), then after that go every 4 days leans/greens and every 5th day cheat. He's the one that told me HGH is at it's peak from 10 pm to 2 AM so sleep at 10 PM for max results.

As far as soreness goes, like I said earlier he said everyone is sore starting out and that I should take a supplement (that he provides), a protein shake, and a meal within 10 minutes of working out to minimize soreness. The one thing we really haven't touched on much is stretching, all I really do before we get into the tough stuff is roll out my quads, kick my legs, and arm circles. Didn't stretch post-workout on Wednesday, so I think that may help me a lot.

Edit: so OP says
Regardless, DOMS does not have a DIRECT effect on how good your workout is--more often than not, it is an indicator of adaptation or being untrained in a particular movement. It would be best to regard it as that and never be afraid to train through soreness--if anything, the blood flow to the muscle will help loosen it and aid in recovery. Just be sure to warm up and stretch out the tightness.

Sounds like what I'm going through. Pretty extreme tightness/stiffness that is probably related to me being a lazy bastard for a good part of my teenage life. I went from doing absolutely nothing (no cardio, no weights, mild walking up and down hills) to pretty intense (to me at least) back to back workouts (Tuesday and Wednesday).

Edit: Think I've got my diet down, and like others have said think I'm going to cut the HIIT since I want to grow first.
 

Fushin

Member
Basically, eat 150g+ protein per day (30g per meal with fats and carbs), EAT EAT EAT (I weight 146 lb), 3 days of weight training and muscle exercises for an hour per week, 3 days of HIIT cardio. I can't even remember half the exercises he makes me do, but they seem to be targeting many different muscle groups. He says everyone is sore for their first 1-3 weeks, just fight through it, and rest on off days. As for diet, more specifically he said go 14 days with only leans/greens, 15th day cheat (eat whatever you want), then after that go every 4 days leans/greens and every 5th day cheat. He's the one that told me HGH is at it's peak from 10 pm to 2 AM so sleep at 10 PM for max results.

As far as soreness goes, like I said earlier he said everyone is sore starting out and that I should take a supplement (that he provides), a protein shake, and a meal within 10 minutes of working out to minimize soreness. The one thing we really haven't touched on much is stretching, all I really do before we get into the tough stuff is roll out my quads, kick my legs, and arm circles. Didn't stretch post-workout on Wednesday, so I think that may help me a lot.

Edit: so OP says

Sounds like what I'm going through. Pretty extreme tightness/stiffness that is probably related to me being a lazy bastard for a good part of my teenage life. I went from doing absolutely nothing (no cardio, no weights, mild walking up and down hills) to pretty intense (to me at least) back to back workouts (Tuesday and Wednesday).

Get a log and start tracking every workout you do. If you don't know what you've done you won't know what to do next. Also if you're looking to gain weight cut the HIIT.
 

CrankyJay

Banned
Knee was a bit sore on squats last week so I'm tearing it down and rechecking form with just the bar this week after re-reading starting strength.
 

Troll

Banned
Fat burning foods? Sounds like you're looking for an "easy answer."

If you want to burn fat, eat less, eat smarter, do heavy compound movements and up the cardio.

It isn't that. I have upped my cardio by 5 folds and I just don't want to sabotage myself. I have been mainly staying away from Carbs, fat and beer. I just was checking to see if there were any foods you guys like to eat when you cut.
 
FitGAF, can you guys list off your top fat burning foods?

Soda lets me burn tons of fat when I leave it on the shelf in the grocery store.

Food doesn't work like that. Spinach is amazingly healthy, for example, but it isn't encouraging the fat to go away. Fat loss is about what you choose not to eat.

If you want a list of very filling relatively low-calorie foods to use to make self control easier, that is something Fitness-GAF could help with.

Stuff not to eat is probably pretty intuitive- sugary things, any bread, junk food like chips or crackers, liquids with calories(even something like milk with actual nutrition in it is hazardous to weight loss because it's an easy way to down 100 or 200 calories and not be full).


Edit: your next post appeared while I was typing. I know it's counter-intuitive but food with some fat is good because fat is more satiating than carbs.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
It isn't that. I have upped my cardio by 5 folds and I just don't want to sabotage myself. I have been mainly staying away from Carbs, fat and beer. I just was checking to see if there were any foods you guys like to eat when you cut.

What you eat when you're cutting is different than "what foods burn fat."

Just eat sensibly.

What exactly does "upping your cardio 5 fold" mean?
 

kylej

Banned
That reminds me I need to do a form check for squats in here soon. I've only been able to squat for 2, maybe 3 months now due to a cycling injury, and I still don't feel confident at all in my form.
 

Troll

Banned
What you eat when you're cutting is different than "what foods burn fat."

Just eat sensibly.

What exactly does "upping your cardio 5 fold" mean?

I see what you're saying. I upped my cardio to 20 miles of running a week, I used to slack on it pretty bad.


Any way you could elaborate on sensibly? I mean, it has to be more than just eating egg whites and brown rice instead of kfc.



Soda lets me burn tons of fat when I leave it on the shelf in the grocery store.

Food doesn't work like that. Spinach is amazingly healthy, for example, but it isn't encouraging the fat to go away. Fat loss is about what you choose not to eat.

If you want a list of very filling relatively low-calorie foods to use to make self control easier, that is something Fitness-GAF could help with.

Stuff not to eat is probably pretty intuitive- sugary things, any bread, junk food like chips or crackers, liquids with calories(even something like milk with actual nutrition in it is hazardous to weight loss because it's an easy way to down 100 or 200 calories and not be full).


Edit: your next post appeared while I was typing. I know it's counter-intuitive but food with some fat is good because fat is more satiating than carbs.

Thanks for the good post. As far as soda, would it matter if it's diet? I have heard both its good and bad...
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
I see what you're saying. I upped my cardio to 20 miles of running a week, I used to slack on it pretty bad.


Any way you could elaborate on sensibly? I mean, it has to be more than just eating egg whites and brown rice instead of kfc.

That's taking it too seriously IMO, especially with all the cardio you're doing. But it really is as simple as forgoing the shit food in favor of healthy food.

Just don't go crazy on bread, sugar, beer, etc.

All this depends on how fat you are and how much you want to cut. If you're looking for a hard cut there are people who can help you with that here, but I'm not that person.

Just watched all of those. Thank you. There are so many checkpoints to remember but I think these will give me a good foundation. The one thing I always need to have problems with is with the tailbone and curling my lower back.

No problem!
 

Troll

Banned
That's taking it too seriously IMO, especially with all the cardio you're doing. But it really is as simple as forgoing the shit food in favor of healthy food.

Just don't go crazy on bread, sugar, beer, etc.

All this depends on how fat you are and how much you want to cut. If you're looking for a hard cut there are people who can help you with that here, but I'm not that person.



No problem!

Yeah, I sort of feel like I am. I crash pretty hard during the week and I think it has to do with my diet. I'm not over weight, I just want to get my six pack back. I haven't seen it since I played soccer in HS.
 
I see what you're saying. I upped my cardio to 20 miles of running a week, I used to slack on it pretty bad.


Any way you could elaborate on sensibly? I mean, it has to be more than just eating egg whites and brown rice instead of kfc.





Thanks for the good post. As far as soda, would it matter if it's diet? I have heard both its good and bad...

I do not know. I do not enjoy the taste to the extent that I'd rather abstain that change to diet so I have not seriously investigated the claims of negative health consequences. I hear people claim it can mess with appetite because you get something sweet-tasting and your body expects calories and then doesn't get anything.

And it really isn't all that complicated. Avoiding junk makes portion control easier. Do be sure to eat enough to survive your runs though.
 

bro1

Banned
Just watched all of those. Thank you. There are so many checkpoints to remember but I think these will give me a good foundation. The one thing I always need to have problems with is with the tailbone and curling my lower back.

The head position is opposite of what Rip says. Eyes low, not high
 

agrajag

Banned
Wow, so many things to consider in keeping proper form for the squat. I'm going to try to do it right with just the bar next time.
 

SeanR1221

Member
It isn't that. I have upped my cardio by 5 folds and I just don't want to sabotage myself. I have been mainly staying away from Carbs, fat and beer. I just was checking to see if there were any foods you guys like to eat when you cut.

I'm currently trying to cut weight. Here are things I buy and eat.

Eggs
Bacon
Tuna
Chicken
Chicken sausages
Chicken burgers
Turkey Burgers
Salmon
Salmon Burgers
Pork
Steak
Asparagus
Spinach
Green Beans
Broccoli
Lettuce
Cheese
Strawberries
Blue Berries
Whey powder

That's pretty much what my diet consists of during the week.
 

Brolic Gaoler

formerly Alienshogun
The head position is opposite of what Rip says. Eyes low, not high

Head position is not that important. EFTS guys also have you pushing your elbows in (forward) and rip has you pushing your elbows back, among other differences.

Rip is great for beginners, but he's not the final authority. It all depends on what you want and where you are in your training.

I'm currently trying to cut weight. Here are things I buy and eat.

Eggs
Bacon
Tuna
Chicken
Chicken sausages
Chicken burgers
Turkey Burgers
Salmon
Salmon Burgers
Pork
Steak
Asparagus
Spinach
Green Beans
Broccoli
Lettuce
Cheese
Strawberries
Blue Berries
Whey powder

That's pretty much what my diet consists of during the week.
Lol, looks like you raided my fridge/freezer.
 
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