Iron Man 3: New armour shown off at SDCC
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Alx
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Sort of, I suppose. I'm usually all for change, but stories have a conservative aspect. (Super) Heroes are defined by their abilities, if you change those abilities you do more than add to the story, you change the character itself. Even if it makes sense ; I mean, Peter Parker is a brilliant chemist, he could invent various chemicals to fight crime (venoms, sleeping powder, ...) but no, as Spider-Man, he's just supposed to cling to walls, and swing on his web. Batman could afford all sorts of gadgets like the ones of Stark, but he's all about grappling hooks, batarangs and his car. Superman can travel through space, he could have adventures on other planets or own a spaceship, but he just flies through Metropolis. That's what is expected from them.
You have to make a difference between the plausibility of a technology, and its compatibility with the character. Even if it makes sense that such technology would exist, it doesn't mean it would fit the character.
Jack Scofield
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None of this happens in Iron Man 1 (before Marvel decided to make all their movies Avengers prequels), so I fail to see how it's even relevant. Just because even more stupid things happens in comics doesn't make this any less stupid.
And yet you find a sentient AI with human intelligence to be plausible?
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China will make an Iron Man suit to go attack US satellites!
Ah so that's why they changed the color pattern. Otherwise the classical red and yellow colors would feel too "Chinese".
Yep yep.
RealDeadOne
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It's relevant because that's the universe Iron Man 1 is a part of now. I also think stupider things happening in the comics all the time DOES make it less stupid because it establishes what is plausible within that universe.
It doesn't change the character because Iron Man's power set isn't "has repulsor blasts and can fly", it's "genius intellect beyond most humans". Since his introduction he has been upgrading his armor, that IS his power, that's the central theme of the comics.
Also, Spider-man DOES invent gadgets and use other things to help fight crime (just recently he used a stealth suit to take down a certain villain), Batman DOES use lots more gadgets than just grappling hooks and batarangs (he has tons of vehicles especially) and Superman DOES fly through space and visit other planets, he's a global superhero, not just Metropolis. Comics constantly change what heroes can do because otherwise it's just boring, you know what they're going to do in every situation before they do it. It may be important for characters to not act out of character, but it's also important for them to evolve and change. I mean if Tony Stark was always thinking "well that's not true to my original suit design" then he would have been destroyed a long time ago.
Jack Scofield
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In the world that Iron Man 1 created, sure. Besides the suit and the AI, everything else in Iron Man 1 was relatively grounded. Having a magical suit that is fused to his bones is a different story completely.
I don't see why people can't understand this.
Seeing people's about Iron Man's new tech makes me wonder how people will perceive characters like Doctor Strange once they appear on the big screen.
Have you seen the tech in his basement? All of his AI crap? The arc reactor. None of that is grounded. The new suit is not magical either.
Have you seen the tech in his basement? All of his AI crap? The arc reactor. None of that is grounded. The new suit is not magical either.
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Maybe you should wait and see how this thing is executed within the film before jumping to conclusions?
RealDeadOne
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Again it still doesn't matter because that's not the Extremis suit you're talking about and they're almost certainly not using that in the movie.
Although I'd agree that the Bleeding Edge suit in question does not belong in the movies any time soon, that's not because it doesn't fit in with Iron Man 1, it's because it doesn't really fit in with Avengers. I'm not sure why you're devoted to what does and doesn't fit in with IM1 since the other Marvel movies have already broadly expanded the range of things that can fit in within that universe. It's not like Iron Man 2 and Avengers won't be canon to IM3.
Alx
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I suppose it's a good thing I haven't read recent comics then... Super heroes used to be like modern mythology, now it sounds like soap opera.
One of the big success of the movie, in my opinion, was showing all that advanced technology in an old fashioned-way. Stark is painted as a traditional engineer, quite like how it would be imagined in the 60s. Sure he has an AI (that only replaces the human Jarvis, but isn't too important), and he fiddles with holograms, but he still works with his hands, grabs things, experiment, solder, build... The defining element of the "legend of Iron Man" is in its genesis : a man builds a nuclear reactor in a cave. Iron Man is a character of the 60s, like Captain America is one of the 40s, and it's part of their identity.
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There's an Iron Man 3? Iron Man 2 was so bad i just assumed it must have been a huge flop.
Iron Man 2:
Budget: $170200 million
Box office: $623,933,331
Iron Man isn't going away any time soon.
RealDeadOne
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What's this? Good job bob saying that in regards to a Mahvel film? Wha? haha. Just messing with you. I agree with you though. Wait and see how Shane Black handles it. Hell, we don't even know if the Bleeding Edge suit will be in the film. As for the suit, switch colors and it'll be better. Too much gold. Makes him look like a ghost. I like the design though.
Everything in Iron Man 1 is pseudo-science. This "magical suit" will be no different.
RealDeadOne
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As for my thoughts on the actual suit design: it looks... ok? I highly, highly doubt that's what the final suit from the movie is going to look like. There is no way in hell Marvel would abandon the classic coloring, that's just unheard of from them. Even when they do change character's costumes they go right back to the classic designs in no time at all.
My guess is this is a suit designed for space, even if he doesn't go into space in the movie outside of an intro or something. It was shown in Avengers that the Mk. VII couldn't really handle outer space, so I think this must be made to have that ability, or maybe to go super fast or something. At the least this is SOME kind of specialized suit like the Mk. V suitcase suit and not the next iterative design. The Iron Man suit has been red and gold for so fucking long I can't believe at all that Marvel would ever change it like that. The actual Extremis armor likely won't be revealed until we see the movie and will have a new design looking more like the old designs.
My guess is this is a suit designed for space, even if he doesn't go into space in the movie outside of an intro or something. It was shown in Avengers that the Mk. VII couldn't really handle outer space, so I think this must be made to have that ability, or maybe to go super fast or something. At the least this is SOME kind of specialized suit like the Mk. V suitcase suit and not the next iterative design. The Iron Man suit has been red and gold for so fucking long I can't believe at all that Marvel would ever change it like that. The actual Extremis armor likely won't be revealed until we see the movie and will have a new design looking more like the old designs.
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Too much Yellow
cmon artist, wat r u thinking
cmon artist, wat r u thinking
RealDeadOne
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Because A) Curses aren't real and B) Most failures are brought about by excessive executive meddling and bad/exhausted directors with shitty, rushed scripts, two problems this movie already is avoiding
Spider-man 3, Superman 3 and X-Men 3 were all shitted out with no regard to quality, the studios in question just wanted the money. Marvel is intent on making all of their movies at least decent and keeping solid quality control so they don't destroy their own brands.
DrBaalzamon
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Has anyone mentioned that this is just what they're showing at ComicCon and it could be that there will be another greater reveal? I mean its entirely possible no? This could be an armor he wears before he goes full Extremis or bleeding edge etc. Something to consider!
Am I the only one who really enjoys the 2nd one? Probably the big difference maker, is that I'm not a big Iron Man fan, but the humor was mostly great and there were some cool action scenes. The story was whatever, but it doesn't fail to entertain. I think the first one's story is overrated anyway, even if its the better of the two.
RealDeadOne
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It's a solid movie. People really exaggerate how bad it is; even the most "refined" film fans should admit it's at least mediocre. People act like it's straight-up X3 and Spidey 3 levels. It's disappointing compared to the first, sure, but I can't see how it can be called anything worse than "standard summer blockbuster fare". It goes quite a bit off the rails with all the plot elements but it's hardly a clusterfuck.
I liked it too.
Devolution
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Hate that gold so much.
Still not a fan of that red despite the edit but I think this is loads better.
Still not a fan of that red despite the edit but I think this is loads better.
Good Job Bob
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Silver gives off a cold, robotic feel which is the opposite of what they're going for with the pale color.Hate that gold so much.
Still not a fan of that red despite the edit but I think this is loads better.
IM3 news:
--Mandarin is the villain
--Rhodey will have a deeper story
--IM3 is a self-contained story but does plant a setup for Avengers 2
--IM3 will have an international element (China)
--Stark and Pepper are in a committed relationship
--Rhodey does wear the Iron Patriot suit as War Machine
--Mandarin is the villain
--Rhodey will have a deeper story
--IM3 is a self-contained story but does plant a setup for Avengers 2
--IM3 will have an international element (China)
--Stark and Pepper are in a committed relationship
--Rhodey does wear the Iron Patriot suit as War Machine
The Technomancer
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Nope, I like it a lot. I think that in many ways its a stronger film then the first (although the first nails the origin story better then just about any other superhero film)
abstract alien
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Looks good, and will look even better when it's actually on screen in the setting it was designed for and not on a shitty stage demonstration. This stuff never looks as good as it does on screen when it's out of its context.
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...are you from the future? The Liveblog just started.
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Oh. BOOO THAT MAN
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Thanks!
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There was a press conference before the panel.
Devolution
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That's why the red would need to be changed to a warmer more saturated red. This looks really weird but I'd prefer to see something like this than their current cold boring red plus tacky gold.
abstract alien
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I always start to get bored and lose interest rapidly the moment "international element" type things start happening. Like when all these countries start to get involved and they rely on that itself instead of the writing and whatnot to give the intended mood. That sort of real like situation never really translates well into movies, not on its own. Eh...maybe I'm losing it lol
Spike Spiegel
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Honestly that was the first thing I thought of when I saw it. Pepper's getting a suit.Reminds of the Rescue armor.
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