Basis of old FPS design, that is why games where so loved back then. The forward design philosophy is one of the causes of FPS fatigue, but people won't acknowledge that.
Halo 4: Review Thread
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APZonerunner
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To chime in here, it took me about 6 on Heroic and is taking a little longer on Legendary (though having seen the story, I'm now plodding through it slowly, a level at a time.)
There's no encounter in an FPS better than the Halo 3 scarab fight. Maybe as good, but not better.
Combat is part of level design.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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In terms of visual variety and believability Halo's interior levels were really weak and repetitive. They were quite functional when it came to gameplay and serving as settings for all the different encounters, however.
DeMeester
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I think it's meant to say this:
You know, Microsoft has lots of cash, you can safely say loads of cash. A reasonable amount of that money was spent on building a new team, their advertising campaign et al.
So it would have been pretty hard for them if this would have turned out for the worst. Anyways, I can reassure the fans that are curious about the campaign it was worth the wait.
I also recommend it to all other gamers who are in for a fun adventure with lots of variety and good AI, but if you've never been a fan of the series you'll probably not be
charmed by this new episode.
GarthVaderUK
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Where'd the free acid go?
Forerunner shit reminds me of the backgrounds in a Rob Liefield comic.
No. I like having fun game after game.
My problem was all the unnecessary garbage they add just to say they put in new stuff. Armor lock alone annoyed me into quitting Reach after a few weeks. If they just made a sequel with a barebones main multiplayer playlist and a bunch of extras like Forge then I'd enjoy it a lot more than when they just throw in stuff. New maps and no horrific Halo 2 auto aim would be my ideal game.
The big open levels are indeed the best thing about the Halo games and what I remember in my mind when thinking about Halo.
The best level in Crysis was also the huge open one that let you drive tanks if you wanted.
I am amazed that so many games can't wait to outdo COD in small linear corridor levels when a lot of gamers express their love of the big wide open.
The best level in Crysis was also the huge open one that let you drive tanks if you wanted.
I am amazed that so many games can't wait to outdo COD in small linear corridor levels when a lot of gamers express their love of the big wide open.
Dunno man... Dark Souls got released again this year.
Don't you mean the forerunner?
-tetsuo-
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No it isn't. The two can be mutually exclusive. Vanquish has mundane levels and great combat. So does F.E.A.R.. Half- Life has decent combat but great level design.
It would be fun to fight in Halo in a box with more boxes in it. The levels don't matter, and they never did.
yes srry
He means enemy placement/encounters are part of level design. Which is true.
No, I mean this is factually how it works. Missions are made by level designers.
-tetsuo-
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I don't remember which one that was, but I assume it was possibly a lot of open battlefields, possibly some blue and or purple hallways and a lot if covenant. Once again, not amazing.
AltogetherAndrews
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Hype is not someone one "keeps in check."
Seems like nothing is amazing if you look at it this way.
-tetsuo-
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Dude the only Halo levels I remember the name of are the bad ones.
Mizzou Gaming
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I still cannot believe how good this looks.
Foliorum Viridum
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Yeah, when Halo is at its best, it's comparable (but not nearly as good) as Crysis. I want a Halo with just those big, open, sandbox levels with lots of vehicle action etc.
Half of the levels in Halo games are going through dull corridors that have uninteresting architecture and are poorly designed in terms of encounters.
Get rid of all that bollocks and you have a Halo game that finally gets in to the great territory for me. The past ones have always been let down by a lot of the shit levels.
Halo 3 and Reach had like 2 solely interior levels each.
AltogetherAndrews
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Whatever you feel about Halo 4, props are to be given to 343 for shipping their first Halo title. Congrats again to the guys over at 343.
Indeed. Congrats!
GarthVaderUK
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Is that the royal "we" or were you playing co-op?
-tetsuo-
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And? I understand that programmers place enemies in a level. However, if the combat is not good, then the level is not good. They are exclusive from one another. You can go nuts making the biggest open battlefield but the combat AI has to be prepared to use it or it will turn into the biggest boring wasteland.
Yes, they made a video game.
Whatever you feel about Halo 4, props are to be given to 343 for shipping their first Halo title. Congrats again to the guys over at 343.
Foliorum Viridum
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Which is why they're up there as the best the series has to offer! 1 and 2 are pretty awful these days because of all the interior levels.
Ken Masters
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I can't remember a game getting negative early reviews
-tetsuo-
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I'm sure I had some amazing firefights on that level, I am just not sure what level it was.
It seems weird to say that Halo succeeds entirely in spite of the level design (I agree that it does fairly often) when there is a noticeable difference in quality between, say, a Crow's Nest and a Tsavo Highway.
Mizzou Gaming
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Kudos to them for letting the review embargo lift almost a week before the game and congrats to 343.
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A bit disappointed they played it safe with the scenario design.
polyh3dron
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AltogetherAndrews
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He's probably trying to keep the hype in check, dude.
-tetsuo-
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I will say after beating it that it is my favorite Halo campaign. Brutes are gone, which is good, and the prometheans are really fun to fight. Less so than the elites though, who are really scary in this. The base gameplay is straight up good old Halo. Big levels and lots of dudes to fight.
343 has done something Bungies never did though. The cutscenes are absolutely top notch and the storytelling is strong. It completely obliterates Bungies efforts. Although I did like the end if Reach
343 has done something Bungies never did though. The cutscenes are absolutely top notch and the storytelling is strong. It completely obliterates Bungies efforts. Although I did like the end if Reach
I have played all the games, read some of the books/one graphic novel, and even the anime.
Great scores across the board. Sadly I permanently gave away/sold all my 360s and games so I can't join the party.
This is what I want from you gaf, high quality let's play without skipping cutscenes or adding color commentary, for that I'll send you nsfw nude pics.
This is what I want from you gaf, high quality let's play without skipping cutscenes or adding color commentary, for that I'll send you nsfw nude pics.
i want sfw nudes
You said you played on Legendary. Have you solo'd the game in Heroic? How difficult is it compared to the previous games?
polyh3dron
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you're acting like quite the negative nancy is all.