Zyrusticae
Banned
Shocked not to see more mentions of Diablo 3 in here.
Seriously, way to tarnish the name of a much-beloved series, Blizzard!
Seriously, way to tarnish the name of a much-beloved series, Blizzard!
In your opinion, the franchises that went down hill this gen?
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ShinobiFist
Banned
Virtua Fighter. Final Tuned was the last good VF. Each version of VF5 got worse.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Pains me to say it since I love it so much but:
Final Fantasy
Kingdom Hearts
Pokemon
Final Fantasy
Kingdom Hearts
Pokemon
Final Fantasy takes the trophy here by far.
It's just... all the magic is gone. Not only is it hard to get hyped for these XIII games, it's evoking a "here we go again" response. It's amazing the day and night difference of the franchise before 13 (and 14) to now. The name has almost become toxic.
It's just... all the magic is gone. Not only is it hard to get hyped for these XIII games, it's evoking a "here we go again" response. It's amazing the day and night difference of the franchise before 13 (and 14) to now. The name has almost become toxic.
Deified Data
Banned
Doesn't really count - it started this gen and went downhill this gen.
Final Fantasy is the quintessential failure story of this gen.
CadetMahoney
Member
Silent Hill
Resident Evil
Resident Evil
SunhiLegend
Member
What's with all the Gran Turismo mentions?
GT5 is absolutely the best in the series, better visuals and by better I mean fucking fantastic, better physics (best on console sims imo), more cars and more tracks. Then you have the new additions such as kart racing, nascar, special events which are great, a course generator, day night cycle, weather, and a really good online mode. The series just gets better with each game, the only thing I didn't like was the constant loading and the load times, but patchs helped eradicate some of that. And the GT5 home page is much better than the home screen in GT4.
GT5 is absolutely the best in the series, better visuals and by better I mean fucking fantastic, better physics (best on console sims imo), more cars and more tracks. Then you have the new additions such as kart racing, nascar, special events which are great, a course generator, day night cycle, weather, and a really good online mode. The series just gets better with each game, the only thing I didn't like was the constant loading and the load times, but patchs helped eradicate some of that. And the GT5 home page is much better than the home screen in GT4.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Final Fantasy wins this.
Deified Data
Banned
Pokemon just keeps getting better and better. I think anyone who seriously believes Pokemon is in decline are just nostalgic for the "good old days".
Sohter.Nura
Member
My god. What happened to gaming this gen.
All my favorite franchises went to the shitters D=
FF XIII was an acceptable game, nothing special, fun system and crappy story.
Anything after XII just feels like a massive disappointment. Balthier and Fran were so hot :x
All my favorite franchises went to the shitters D=
FF XIII was an acceptable game, nothing special, fun system and crappy story.
Anything after XII just feels like a massive disappointment. Balthier and Fran were so hot :x
Future PhaZe
Member
1st post nails it.
The only series I can think of that had improvements might be Street Fighter and Call of Duty, and both are pretty debatable.
Or perhaps they have a different opinion than yours. Especially since that person's favorite Pokemon game is Platinum.
I wanna give GTA5 a chance before I mark it on the list as well, but yeah, Final Fantasy wins by a motherfucking mile.
It's so frustrating to see such a fantastic franchise destroy itself in every category. From FFXIV disaster, to the vaporware of Versus, to the ill decisions of making sequels to arguably the worse iteration in the mainline series. It's baffling what they are doing to themselves.
Anyways, the real answer is every franchise. Name anything from the PS2/XBOX era and you'll certainly find some sort of decline.
seattle6418
Member
Thank you. We all know it has some gran turismo-isms, but it's nothing to be put in a list like this.
I actually feel good that the series didn't went downhill like most of other japanese series.
I have to agree with the repeated mentions of Splinter Cell.
The last game was okay I guess, but that franchise used to be my motherfucking shit. The first Splinter Cell blew my god damn pants off at the time. Then they ended out last generation with the unbelievably good Chaos Theory. What the hell happened this time around?
It depressed me deeply to see what the latest Splinter Cell is going to look like. What a generic and boring looking game.
The last game was okay I guess, but that franchise used to be my motherfucking shit. The first Splinter Cell blew my god damn pants off at the time. Then they ended out last generation with the unbelievably good Chaos Theory. What the hell happened this time around?
It depressed me deeply to see what the latest Splinter Cell is going to look like. What a generic and boring looking game.
That's a lot of bulletpoints, true, but putting it all together was the problem with that game. Also, there weren't enough races. Things got real boring real fast, and it seemed you had to buy a special car for every race. There was no real sense of progression (for me) like I felt in GT1-GT3.
Dion Blaster
Member
I've never liked Final Fantasy but it's sad seeing a franchise that use to sell systems become a punchline.
Call of Duty 4 was a revelation. Can't deny that. I know it's hard to look fondly on it now after seeing MW3, BLOPS2, and countless imitators.
I stopped playing Call of Duty after MW2, but yeah, CoD4 was absolutely amazing at the time.
legacyzero
Banned
Actually can't argue with this one. Seems like all of my favorite franchises declined sharply in quality.
CitizenCope
Member
Links golf.
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At least the second time I've seen that listed.
I want to say perhaps some of you have unrealistic expectations for video games. But maybe you just have different tastes in games, which is perfectly fine.
GTA 5 is already guaranteed to be better than 4 since they're putting jets and planes in general back in as well as parachuting and a whole bunch of stuff missing.
I don't think it will come close to San Andreas because SA had masterful mission design and diversity that I don't believe Rockstar will surpass because of their new belief that things have to be realistic or make some kind of sense. There was no logic in jetpacking out of area 51 or doing a hovercraft race, but that's why it was so damn fun to play. They won't try things like that in GTA 5. It'll be crazier and more fun than 4, but likely not as much as SA.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
You babies. Everyone knows HD towns are really expensive to generate.
This. Well said.
I'm curious to know which you are referring to more, I'd hope Elder Scrolls. To deny a Final Fantasy decline would be pretty crazy, I'd say so.
My problem with Elder Scrolls is into focusing purely on atmosphere and exploration, while leaving behind everything that makes an elder scrolls game. A mix of morrowind and skyrim would certainly produce a more optimal result than just one or just the other, but leaving gameplay behind in the wake of visuals is a decline for me.
A very similar problem with FFXIII of course, very little substance for all that flash it manages to produce.
Yep, Elder Scrolls.
Oblivion, while dated now, I thought was pretty amazing when it came out.
Skyrim? I thought it was the bees knees. Nothing to really complain about aside from some repetitive quests. I thought the gameplay did a good enough job as a whole.
Morrowind is still my favorite game of all time. The atmosphere is unmatched. But it's one of those right place, right time kind of things. It's unfair to ask them to recapture something like that.
Video games are more streamlined now. That's just the reality. The old games are still there for us to play.
Sadly I can't post screens, but level 5 has done a fine job with hd towns in rpgs this gen, as have many other devs both from the west and east.
I don't remember who made that quote but id be surprised if anyone did not think that line was bullshit then, and its been proven wrong many times. Square might not be able to do them, but they can't seem to make good games anymore either.
That qualifies as going downhill.
To you. Which is fine. It's an opinion.
Yeah saints row 3 is way too far in the opposite direction where it's hard to take anything semi-seriously. Plus the mission design in that game is pretty bad. Like 10-15 missions are introductions to boring activities and most of the rest are run around and kill a ton of enemies. Only a few missions have you doing cool stuff like free falling out of planes (and through them sometimes).
I think a better comparison to the PS2 GTAs and san andreas in general is just cause 2 and not saints row. Saints Row is too wacky and zany, like you can dress up as a clown and explode people with a giant fist or drive a truck with johnny gat's head that shoots flames out of his mouth, but Just Cause 2 has you doing wild things that at least fall into reality, or action-movie reality at least which is more like San Andreas. I think the wackiest thing you could do in that game is dress up like a gimp and beat people with a dildo.
That was the whole point?
Meccanical
Member
No, because Saints Row 2 was better in this area, it blended humor and serious moments perfectly.
Well, yeah but that doesn't mean it's a good thing. Plus when they compare themselves to GTA they better step up with something better than SR3.
I was a fan of SR2, but I thought the high points were higher in SR3 and the pacing was worlds better.
The fact you didn't HAVE to do all of the side missions was a godsend for me. I just don't have the patience for that stuff.
I did deeply miss the more involved character creation tools from Saints Row 2. I played that game as Moss from The IT Crowd and it was FUCKING AMAZING.
I think they definitely consider themselves as the non-serious GTA. So they leaned into that.
Gaming is hardly limited to franchises that existed before this gen. I enjoy playing games too, but I can still point out franchises that, in my opinion, had very disappointing entries this console cycle. Metroid has been the most disappointing, personally.
I'd say Pokemon has been doing just fine. Better than fine even.