Arsenic Yellow
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According to this thread it is :/. Change the word "Homo" with any other minority group and maybe they'd' see how it's offensive.
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According to this thread it is :/. Change the word "Homo" with any other minority group and maybe they'd' see how it's offensive.
No homo always struck me as literally homophobic. I'm going to say something fairly positive about you, but I have to slip in this caveat at the end because I can't stand the thought that you might think I'm a homosexual.
Not as big a deal as a lot of things, but yeah I've got no problem with adjusting the attitude of someone that does that in a classroom setting.
Not as big a deal as a lot of things, but yeah I've got no problem with adjusting the attitude of someone that does that in a classroom setting.
BigEvilTurtle
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ReturnOfTheRAT
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Bish is KOBE?
They were individually printed out smh.
Exactly. I mean, if you're not gay - great. Do your thing. But it shouldn't be seen as something you need to clarify or else *shock horror* a gatling gun that fires hard cocks is going to be aimed directly into your face.
If one of my kids turned out to be gay, how would I feel for him as a parent if something like this occurred in his class and nobody said anything? That somehow, he's less of a person because of who he is - not hurting anyone, mind - and other people need to make that distinction that they're not like him (but hey, no offense!).
It would break my heart.
So no, I'm not overly PC. I crack race and sex jokes with my friends that I know and know me. I also respect the boundaries of time and place and fully expect that someone over the age of seven should and would know better. When you're getting ready to start your career? Fucking rights you should know better. So there you have it.
DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
I love you, man.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! I love this place!
I think this is pretty straightforward. A person says "no homo" when they are doing something that could conceivably have someone mistake them as a gay man, and saying "no homo" indicates that that person does not want that mistake to happen. I don't think it is "hate speech", but it is crass and gratuitous to point out at every opportunity that one is not gay, because Heaven forbid someone think that you're anything but straight.
Yeah that works but because you receive the flirt... if you do something that may seem an attempt to flirt but in reality you don't you just make sure that he/she knows it.
shinobi602
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RobotMafia
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That gif is beautiful.
so this means 'that's what she said' is now sexist....right?
Oh no, you have to tell someone that your friendly gesture was just that. God forbid we have social interaction! You're in an odd state of mind when you're nervous that every action you take might be misinterpreted so that you head it off with disclaimers.
Ravensmash
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I hope not.
Partial Gamification
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Students don't get called out for stupid shit enough.
He will never forget.
He will never forget.
Ah, miss that, thanks.
oneils
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Ok. However, is a box of chocolates, in this context, a flirt? He handed out candy to the whole class. How could anyone possibly interpret this to be a sexual advance?
edit: and what Alucrid said.
I dunno, you tell me. How would it be sexist?
Sho_Nuff82
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Correct, but it's stupid as hell and makes me "gurl, please" everytime a man says it. Who the hell are you kidding, gurl?
Ravensmash
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Because it was in a heart shaped box, close to valentines day.
That said, I still think it was immature and crass - the phrase feels much more innocent when it doesn't look so forced like this example.
oneils
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Yeah, I still don't buy it. I mentioned this earlier, but I buy heart shaped candy for my grandmother. I've also passed around whatever cheap box was on sale, around the office. Many times it was in a heart shaped box. I never felt that I had to make clear to my male colleagues that I was straight as I handed them a chocolate from the box.
I do agree that in this case it was pretty crude.
I'm pretty sure in grade school we gave valentines to everyone. Who cares? If they're taking a heart shaped candy as an advance then they need to learn some social cues as much as this guy who passed them out.
Who fucking does something like this when they're 20+?
Yeah I know its just that I heard it first from Boondocks.
Wanna lit me up?
For someone saying it shouldnt matter whether youre confused for being gay, you seem to be pretty adamant in telling us that giving someone heart shaped candy isnt gay.
There are gestures and gestures... there is keeping the door open for a person and gifting them a ring with diamonds only one of those has the higher chance of double meaning... And i think that anyone can agree that an heart shaped chocolate box very close to Valentine day is at the very least suspect...
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Among other things i would never use no homo if not when joking with friends because i know there are hypersensitive people where you have to watch every single letter before saying anything.
"Hey what you said was offensive for me even though its litteral meaning isn't and you didn't say it to offend me neither so stop using it because i am offended"
"Well guess who has a problem me or you?"
I don't smoke no more.
Also, note that I entirely meant in this situation of him passing them out to his classmates.
FrostuTheNinja
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oneils
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I don't see anything contradictory in this.
1) I think its odd that someone might confuse chocolates for a sexual advance, in this context.
2) I think its odd that someone might insist on reminding people that they are straight when they give chocolates.
Love it.
A lot more than you probably realize... most people still haven't figured out much even by their mid to late 20's
Unspeakable Evil
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Grey area, originally it was kinda homophobic and somewhat sarcastic, but now it seems people say it primarily to be funny or to be sarcastic. Doesn't necessarily mean they are homophobic, insensitive yeah.
WeaponJohnnyX
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Is the guy just poking the other kid or stabbing him? Not quite sure whats going on.
Shouta
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Someone has answered my call! I predict great things for you here.
This is pretty much how I see it as well.
Jest Chillin
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I'm fairly new around here so I can speak to the moderation side of things but there's definitely a different set of standards with regards to the internet. Bish is a Teacher. It's his job not only to impart the knowledge of the subject but, when necessary, to teach his students what's expected of them as people when in a serious/work environment. If he were to allow that action to occur without addressing it he's sending a message and he's failing in the responsibilities of his role.
It's different on GAF. Even if it's a bannable offense there's no onus on the mods to try to explain to you why it's wrong. They're not here to babysit you or teach you right from wrong, acceptable from unacceptable. They're literally here to keep order. If a person wants to say whatever ignorant crap, they catch a ban and that's it. They can learn life lessons on their own in their personal lives.
Whiskeymatt
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Beautiful.
I'm just pointing out how assumptions, like how 'no homo' is always homophobic, can lead us to strange places. The 'no homo' discussed in your video, and 'that's what she said' are really quite similar, word play games that happen to rely on a particular sexuality.
The 'no homo' bish brought up though is quite different. It is not so much a game and may in fact come from a darker place. As your video said, take everything on a case by case basis.
Either way, handing out those chocolates to a class is completely inappropriate.
That's why I always say "No homo" while winking and squeezing their knee.
Usually after they say no homo we end up staring into each others eyes until we slowly move forward, closer and closer until our lips almost touch, then the magic of the "no homo" takes effect and we just slap each other on the ass and go our separate way with our heart shaped chocolates.
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