That's fine then you seem like a kind honest teacher. And in this case maybe other people will talk about this and not pull these shenanigans in your class or other classes (and possibly learn from it).
I lit up one of my graduate students...
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That's fine then you seem like a kind honest teacher. And in this case maybe other people will talk about this and not pull these shenanigans in your class or other classes (and possibly learn from it).
ClovingWestbrook
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I dont think Bish snapped him by the collar, through him down and curb stomped him.
Isn't that what 'lit up' means? Or is it to get high?
You must be new around here.
vas_a_morir
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It usually means somebody got knocked out. Back around the late 90's, I would hear "Got lit" used for getting high, but I personally never heard 'lit up' for anything other than getting your bell rung, but I'm certain it's used for getting high, as well.
At least you're teaching college students who actually give a fuck about learning(well, most of them). I couldn't imagine teaching high school where most kids don't give a fuck about school.
You guys laugh but I lost a friend this way, we were out in the city bar hopping and at one point I grabbed his knee and winked at him jokingly. (It was in context to some joke he made) but I guess It didn't come off that way because the look on his face said "I've made a huge mistake o_o", he dissapears off somewhere and I don't see him till the next day. I even went to his place the next day to try and clear the air but he couldn't even look me in the eyes he was so traumatized ha
Majima Everywhere System
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I thing the term is a bit hostile towards homosexuals, but I also don't like the use of "butt hurt" and I remember members of GAF being defensive about the term. You know who is not butt hurt? Super masculine males who have reservations about getting their prostate checked, and that's it. It literally leaves everyone else in the world on a lower level, because they just may get items up the butt.
Shouta
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It's perfect when you get just the right class to teach, but it's really hard otherwise. It's worse when you have to deal with office politics as a teacher though.
Umm, couldn't 'butt hurt' be the result of getting spanked? Why does penetration have to be involved?
Oh my god by the way you started that I thought the story was going to be that you saying "no homo" somehow caused one of your friends to end up dying.
Which is why one class is enough for me
cutmeamango
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He meant the milk used was not homogenized.
that is anti-artisan-cheese-mongers
FantasticMrFoxdie
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:lolol Not even gonna lie, this is exactly how I pictured it reading the OP.
Majima Everywhere System
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Because it's dudes on the Internet, but you have a point. For me, it had been ages since people told each other they just got spanked, and fewer ages since people started getting raped on the court.
Well no, not quite. All the people I've known who have said it 1.) have done so jokingly and 2.) have said it following something overtly sexual which they said to another man 3.) despite the fact they are not homosexual.
In this case the guy was handing out little valentine hearts and wanted to include the guys. I get why he did it (it seemed a romantic thing to do for a guy and he wanted to joke about it), and I get why he shouldn't (it can be funny among friends and in specific overtly sexual situations but this was a classroom and not really romantic anyway), but I don't think the term is offensive strictly speaking.
You understand that that's the default use of the phrase, right? The fact that it's a "joke" doesn't magically make it a shitty thing to say. If I make a joke about black people liking watermelon, the fact that I know there's no basis to that stereotype doesn't make it not racist. If anything, it makes it more racist!
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Yeah well, it's not funny. And I find it cringe-worthy. There's nothing wrong with showing affection to same-sex friend even if you're not sexually interested in them. No one in their right mind will think you're gay even if you don't say that you're straight. Overcompensating, OTOH? Well, there's a case for suspicion. There is this childish mentality amongst men that you're not allowed to be too close with another man because what if someone thinks you're gay? Once again it goes to the whole mentality that gay people are unwanted and joke materials.
in all seriousness, in the case that the phrase is used to point out the fact that something just said is in fact a homosexual double entendre, and done so to provoke a laugh, how is that different from 'that's what she said', used in exactly the same way to point out a heterosexual double entedre, in an effort to provoke a laugh?
There are certainly instances were there is no entendre, sure. This was one of them. When used as wordplay, though, how is it derogatory?
There are certainly instances were there is no entendre, sure. This was one of them. When used as wordplay, though, how is it derogatory?
Really well put, absolutely agree.
Can someone please explain to me when "homo" stopped being a slur or a derogatory slang word? Cause it certainly was when I was a kid, and I'm in my 20s so I'm not THAT old.
Now, of course "homo" is not the most offensive or derogatory word you can use, there are far worse.
But still I'd think every adult should know, just by existing in normal society, that it's not school or work appropriate.
Now, of course "homo" is not the most offensive or derogatory word you can use, there are far worse.
But still I'd think every adult should know, just by existing in normal society, that it's not school or work appropriate.
so what you're saying is that in public you're being...stingy...with the phrase?
I am also jewish please don't hurt me
Perhaps he could be the next SunhiLegend if he trains hard at it.
What does it matter if it was a joke or if they weren't gay?
If a homo isn't around to to hear your "no homo," is it still offensive?
Yes. You're just getting away with it because the people who find it offensive aren't around.
English isn't my native language and in my native language "homo" is what gay people are called. I thought it was the same in english since "gay" meant something entirely different not so long ago...
Edit: aslo -- him acting all insecure by saying "no homo" is what makes the joke funny. Still think it's just harmless fun.
It's not derogatory but it's insulting never the less. You basically make a joke out of a group of people. And the core of the joke is that you're not one of them because who wants to be one of them? Would you like it if someone said the same thing about you being a Jew?
Blackace
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ProfessorLobo
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i.e. no homo
How would that make more sense? And why can gay males only give valentines hearts to other gay males? They can't give chocolate to their friends or acquaintances for a holiday like the rest of us?
But you're right. It is a stupid joke. He probably did it flippantly. But now he knows better so it shouldn't happen again.
Spring-Loaded
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Because I didn't address Bishoptl by his full title, all suffixes included? He created this thread, he can be referred to as OP, and my admonishment of his reaction still stands.
ClovingWestbrook
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Dude relax.
if it was a stereotype about being jewish (and they weren't a good friend and all that) of course I wouldn't like it, but that's not really my point.
Homosexual sex is something homesexual people do, just as heterosexual sex is something heterosexual people do (insert virgin joke here, ha-ha). It is not a stereotype. Basically I'm asking if it is possible that when using 'no homo' in reference SOLELY to a double entendre about homosexual sex - a sex ACT - that it doesn't provide a reason to be offended...
Basically i'm changing it to 'that's what he said.' why is that insulting?
Foxy Fox 39
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So hypothetically if an attractive single girl thought you were gay based upon some random words you said one day...and you wanted to clarify because you're uncomfortable with her seeing you as gay...that would be a bad thing because everyone should feel comfortable being seen as something they're not... ?
ClovingWestbrook
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What random word would make someone think you were gay...
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
It basically states that if I do something nice for another man I am gay unless I state otherwise
That doesn't seem stereotypical to you?
Blackace
if you see me in a fight with a bear, don't help me fool, help the bear!
Must be a Laker fan
"Now what I meant by all over my neck and chest Kobe was nice play Kobe."
"...
In the best case scenario:
Here's a love heart, because I love you, but not sexually.
In the worst case scenario:
Here's a love heart with my message of hate on it.
Fine, blow your gasket in the latter, but take a little effort to figure out the intention then modulate your response to fit.
i.e.: Those are nice intentions, but this could be taken the wrong way because
or You fucking nitwit, we're in the 21st century, and this is the shit you pull?!
Here's a love heart, because I love you, but not sexually.
In the worst case scenario:
Here's a love heart with my message of hate on it.
Fine, blow your gasket in the latter, but take a little effort to figure out the intention then modulate your response to fit.
i.e.: Those are nice intentions, but this could be taken the wrong way because
or You fucking nitwit, we're in the 21st century, and this is the shit you pull?!
So you obviously straight, you obviously know that you don't like gay sex and yet you choose to act like you like it as a joke then claim that you're "no homo". Yeah, there's nothing exclusionary and offensive about it at all. /eyeroll
Imagine if one of your friends is gay but he never tells anyone and he has to put up with the constant gay sex jokes but then you always conclude with "no homo". You don't think he'd at least feel uncomfortable/unwanted being in your group?
You basically reduce his sexuality to nothing but jokes, one that you can get away with because you're "no homo". But he, OTOH, can't get away from it because he's gay and in his world, he's the victim of crass joke like this.
no no i agree with you. This is probably not even a worthwhile point to discuss but here it is broken down:
There two basic uses of 'no homo':
1. What you all are talking about, which is saying it to 'make sure' someone doesn't think you're gay after doing something that could be possibly misconstrued as such.
2. Using it to call attention to a double entendre that either you or someone else said, in the same vein as 'that's what she said' (how i've heard it used mostly among my friends)
What you're talking about falls under category 1, which I agree is stereotypical and frankly childish.
But category 2 doesn't come off to me as relying on any stereotype for humor. Only the double entedre.
If in fact it's offensive simply because the words 'no' and 'homo' are in close proximity to each other, than that's a different discussion. I'm just trying to flesh out the context in which it's sometimes used...
This requires a ninja edit:
Firstly, you're projecting a lot of shit on me and I frankly don't appreciate it. I'm not attacking you, and I have in fact never done any of the things you've stated.
To actually respond to what you said: I'm sure what you're describing has happened (and probably often). Maybe it was your friends. Maybe your friends are shitty people. But, alas, I am not one to make assumptions.
I frankly don't understand how pointing out double entendre and 'acting like i like [gay sex] as a joke' are in any way related to each other.
So we understand each other, what I think you're saying is something like the following:
Straight friend to closeted gay friend: "I'm gonna ram my cock in your mouth. no homo".
Is that the general idea?
Spring-Loaded
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I will bathe in the crimson rivers that gush forth from Bish's crushed skull and I'll make absolutely certain you'll have a front row seat, bound helplessly as I feast. Your brain will be dessert. And worry not, I'll keep you alive long enough so that you can have a taste of your own mind as well.
ClovingWestbrook
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Why ya gotta bring konex into this.
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