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from God's lips to Heinrich Von Treitschke's mouth.
I lit up one of my graduate students...
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from God's lips to Heinrich Von Treitschke's mouth.
i'm pretty sure there are hate speech laws in germany.
Killing_Joke
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Harmless joke. Haven't said it in years, but was always smart enough to use it with the right audience and appropriate setting.
ShinNL
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I thought it was just short for "not in a homosexual way".
Which really isn't that much different than saying something like:
Speaking as a heterosexual male, I think you got nicely sculpted pectoral muscles.
(I assume someone casual would say it in a way like "I like your bulky muscles, not in a homosexual way")
In a way I also think it's showing more acceptance to homosexuals. Why? Because people who use this phrase assume there are plenty of homosexuals out there and you don't want them to give them the wrong idea, but you also want to interact. The fact that with that gesture you don't assume every single person is heterosexual means you accept them as part of society.
That's my personal take on it. I don't use the phrase nor do I know people who do (Dutch society), but to me it seems like a completely harmless thing to say and I truly doubt if someone ever says that to hurt anyone. But since I'm not a homosexual, it's actually hard for me to know how one experiences it each time they hear it. From that point of view, I feel as if my opinion on this matter is less important than those of homosexuals. Which is fair game.
There are people very sensitive to words like cancer and rape. If this is something homosexual people do not like to hear, then it's just that easy to drop it from your regular vocabulary. The phrase serves no important meaning anyway.
Which really isn't that much different than saying something like:
Speaking as a heterosexual male, I think you got nicely sculpted pectoral muscles.
(I assume someone casual would say it in a way like "I like your bulky muscles, not in a homosexual way")
In a way I also think it's showing more acceptance to homosexuals. Why? Because people who use this phrase assume there are plenty of homosexuals out there and you don't want them to give them the wrong idea, but you also want to interact. The fact that with that gesture you don't assume every single person is heterosexual means you accept them as part of society.
That's my personal take on it. I don't use the phrase nor do I know people who do (Dutch society), but to me it seems like a completely harmless thing to say and I truly doubt if someone ever says that to hurt anyone. But since I'm not a homosexual, it's actually hard for me to know how one experiences it each time they hear it. From that point of view, I feel as if my opinion on this matter is less important than those of homosexuals. Which is fair game.
There are people very sensitive to words like cancer and rape. If this is something homosexual people do not like to hear, then it's just that easy to drop it from your regular vocabulary. The phrase serves no important meaning anyway.
Yes, and "No homo" clearly doesn't fall under them. For everyone who acts unlawfully upon their bigotery will be persecuted and punished by law accordingly.
That's like saying "I only use the N word around my white friends."
Takamura-San
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I've seen it posted here many times before without punishment.
And I don't think I've ever gotten that homophobic vibe from it that "faggot" gives.
The more you know, I suppose.
I use it as a term to warn people that I'm about to get very close to them, possibly passing a hand close to their junk/butt/boobs (yeah, say it to girls too) in order to work something and that they need not fear, for my intentions are just and pure.
maybe i'll re-evaluate my approach to it.
maybe i'll re-evaluate my approach to it.
"Excuse my reach" should suffice.
Can you imagine how many people have heard Nekofrog use the term 'no homo' and then called into question his entire judgement base?
JordanLMiller
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At the risk of being banned, I think it's kinda funny! ...but I would understand why this would not be a good idea, especially if you're handing them out to people you aren't very close with. It'd be easy to offend somebody.
Internet bubble, no one gives a shit IRL.
phosphor112
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Hmm, that's interesting. I've considered other men attractive, but at times I'll add "no-homo" as in not in a sexually attracted kind of way. Never thought it was considered "hate speech." I guess I should be more considerate.
in thinking about my use of the term, i came to the realisation that I use it a lot more with women than I do with guys. mainly because I work with a lot of chicks in a very small enclosed office.
I give a shit IRL... *single tear*
Lee Chaolan
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Never has this been more appropriate. lol
T.M. MacReady
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So true.
Dude Abides
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Perhaps Gamestop employees don't, but if you said it in a lot of adult professional settings people would give a shit. It would mark you as an idiot.
teh_J0kerer
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Poor kid should have written (not that there's anything wrong with that) on the second line, and gotten in two old jokes for the price of one.
I agree that this was a stupid thing to do, but it should be noted that "adults" in "professional settings" are hypersensitive to anything that may be offensive to anyone, regardless of how minute it may be. With that said, Bish is doing this student a serious favor if they plan to work in a corporate environment, as this would have resulted in termination in most workplaces. And above and beyond that, lighting up people for ignorance is something our society needs on a regular basis.
Psychotext
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It just occurred to me that there's a pretty good chance at least someone in the class reads NeoGAF. I wonder if they're thinking "Holy shit, that was bishoptl!".
Takamura-San
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I'm still waiting for that post.
The Awesomest
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Am I the only one who came into this thread thinking he actually lit one of his students on fire?
That's What She Said
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I've never even heard the term until today.
Perspicacity
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I was going to pass out watermelon to my class tomorrow with a No Negro note attached but I've since thought better of it.
Yeah i was kinda hoping for it, considering the OP.
Slightly dissapointed.
Also seems to me like you're overreacting but i did not know there was so much drama around the term. You have to watch out for everything you say these days.
But it always bothered me when people used it though. Like they're afraid to lose manliness or something.
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XiaNaphryz
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Well, his original post is right - due to harassment laws no one in a professional setting will really want to risk offending anyone they don't know very well, especially if the company has strict no tolerance policies in place. All it takes is one person to be offended enough to file a complaint to HR about it. Just a reality in today's highly litigious society.
I haven't heard this phrase used very often since I was in high school about 3 years ago. Still, I highly doubt that the student in question actually meant it in an offensive way, nor do I think the phrase itself is offensive. Dumb, silly, stupid, useless, etc. yes, but not particularly offensive in most contexts. Not that I'm advocating its use, and like I said I haven't heard it in a long time.
6 pages!
XiaNaphryz
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In a workplace where they may have strict anti-harassment policies, intent doesn't matter - if someone gets offended, that's enough. I've taken enough mandatory HR training classes on the subject in my career to get it pounded into me.
Assuming bish is going beyond just teach design and is also getting his students ready for working in the industry, where many of the major companies have such corporate policies in place, it's not out of the question that he'd expect some minimum level/guidelines of professionalism in place for his class.
Oh I know and agree. Perhaps I'm just being naive in thinking someone with a professional job would not go around saying "no homo" to a coworker. The phrase just strikes me as very "high school" or early college.
CherryWoodFuton
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"No homo" has got to be the most idiotic thing a person can sat imo. Why the hell would it be a problem if I show a fellow male the slightest bit of affection?
Because handing out chocolates to an entire class obviously implies you want to sleep with everyone in it?
Partial Gamification
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One could say some posters on Neogaf (or the internet , in general) are sheltered brats that have not experience culture outside of their cookie-cutter existence. I agree there can be hypersensitivity but when it is rooted in a response to systematic discrimination, posters can come-off as ignorant when they claim things are being unnecessarily inflated.
The original post was better (personal opinion), why put your words in his post? Why not come out and say what you want to say, rather than through the proxy?
T.M. MacReady
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lol, really guys?
Joke post in regards to the 500+ posts its taking to say something obvious, that the actions of the student were immature and dumb. Put out your torches.
You didnt clarify you had no romantic intentions with your concern. We must assume you want intercourse.
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I'm not lynching you, or lableing you. Not offense: I don't know you, your post history, or what you really think. Making genralizations about the nature of people here, or anywhere, does no one justice.
I have friends that have been rejected by their families, I had a professor that was denied a position at the State Department back in the 80s because he was openly gay, and he was very qualified.
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