yeah no the one on the top looks like a bad asian real doll
Skin bleaching (whitening) products - How is this crap even allowed?
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yeah no the one on the top looks like a bad asian real doll
It's much of an issue with intent and cultural perception than just the action itself. I can't argue how much western/euro culture directly affected the desire to look whiter due to the lack of data (unless someone has some on hand), but it's near inarguable that at the minimum,marketing has impacted the larger cultural conversation using Caucasoids as an aspirational benchmark on a wider social level. There are ads out there but I can't be looking for them at the moment.
I'm not disagreeing with you that certain standards involving skin tones existed for a while, but in the modern context I think that you can't really remove the self-loathing and eurocentric aspect out of it.
And something something high five Filipina girlfriends.
I don't know, how about the person in question?
I Stalk Alone
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devolution maybe is just stirring with the amerie thing as I am sure she knows what makeup is. Amerie is half korean so it makes sense that she will look it especially without much makeup as the recent photo shows.Please rethink with the eurocentric theory and applying it to asians. light skin is not only exclusive to caucasians. I hope our eye shape doesn't exclude us in your mind...
Tanning and bleaching is fine. those that do not need anything to achieve this but shade and sun (like me) can probably count themselves lucky. i see a few people making judgments when it is probably the wrong topic to do so.
Tanning and bleaching is fine. those that do not need anything to achieve this but shade and sun (like me) can probably count themselves lucky. i see a few people making judgments when it is probably the wrong topic to do so.
Winterfang
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She looks like a fine lady to me.
And Southeast Asia. In SE Asia dark skin is associated with working outside (being a farmer) and, therefore, the lower class. (It's the same origin of long fingernails in the West. You'll find in some countries around the world even men have long fingernails just to say, hey, look, I don't have to get my hands dirty farming.) I assume it's probably similar in other regions. In Indonesia every facial cleaning product for women has some skin lightening qualities to it.
I've always had this crazy idea that -- I don't know -- dark or light, maybe we should just accept our skin color.
What about colloidal silver?
I'm blue dabadee dabadie dabadee dabadie dabadee ....
plastic ass fake looking lady but considering what you posted in this thread in not really surprised.
Freezie KO
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But they're not 100% rational actors. They've been indoctrinated with a thincentric culture and standards to make more physically fit people the aspirational benchmark on a wider social level.
If a person in question determines they have excess fat, how are we to differentiate their self prognosis from their innate cultural self-loathing?
Angelus Errare
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No race should have to change themselves so that racists stop assuming they're all dangerous.
It was just an observation of the album covers, and I even said it was up to "you" to judge for yourself, but I suppose if you want candids...
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so tanning once causes irreversible skin damage? really? so if I tan once I will never be my previous lighter shade again? It is the exact same thing as bleaching your skin once? I highly doubt it.
If it's actually true I won't deny it. I will deny however, that tanning once cause the same amount of damage that bleaching your skin once would cause.
RobotsAnger
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No way. She didn't look like that during the superbowl.
User 100115
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Can anyone answer if medical skin bleaching causes the same sort of damage as over the counter skin bleaching? And what that damage might be aside from permanently lighter skin?
crimsondynamics
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Skin whitening cream is nothing new in Asia, particularly in the north. Here, having a pearly white complexion is synonymous with beauty.
I guess it's a cultural thing. Personally, I try as hard as I can to maintain the darkest tan I can possibly obtain. Funny how we all have different perceptions of beauty.
I guess it's a cultural thing. Personally, I try as hard as I can to maintain the darkest tan I can possibly obtain. Funny how we all have different perceptions of beauty.
Angelus Errare
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This is a recent picture of Amerie and she looks gorgeous, if not better. Not sure what you're talking about.
I don't even know which one IS Amerie, they both look liked tanned Koreans.
Devolution
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I wouldn't bother asking this question, just ask it of a health professional since they have access to any and all studies about the matter.
Angry Puppy
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kids these days... tanning themselves to different colors. i've seen all the colors of the rainbow already, with blue being the most prominent
User 100115
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True. I haven't brought it up with his doctors for years now, maybe I should :/
But, it did seem to me that when he was diagnosed they were sorta pushing for me to do the bleaching as soon as possible, maybe to get money? I don't know.
computers putin'
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=NamW6D4rPv0
Most recent interview of Amerie I could find. She still looks pretty, but her skin just looks pasty, sick and kinda uneven. Her complexion was beautiful before, radiant and blemish free, she just ruined it.
Edit:it's hilarious, someone in the comments said she isn't bleaching, she's just lightskinned, LOL. Anybody who has followed her career knows that she was way darker than she is now, it's not makeup, it's not just one picture or video, and it's not lighting.
Most recent interview of Amerie I could find. She still looks pretty, but her skin just looks pasty, sick and kinda uneven. Her complexion was beautiful before, radiant and blemish free, she just ruined it.
Edit:it's hilarious, someone in the comments said she isn't bleaching, she's just lightskinned, LOL. Anybody who has followed her career knows that she was way darker than she is now, it's not makeup, it's not just one picture or video, and it's not lighting.
Amerie is on the right.
Winterfang
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I don't see what a bad picture has to do with the color of her skin. That being said, she would probably look worse in that picture if she had retained her darker skin. Dark Skin + Blonde doesn't work that well.
Not that this is the right thread to argue this, but while I'm here:
You're making the huge assumption that being 100% rationality is needed to make an assessment of the amount of fat is deemed healthy/unhealthy. Also, are you actually arguing that fitness, not fat, but fitness, which is literally the state of physical well-being, is somehow not a good benchmark for physical form?
So what is your standard of excess fat? There shouldn't be any standards? Well that's not true. Excess fat, thinness, anything, can unquestionably be tied to poor health, whereas, back to the topic at hand, no such quantifiable metric exists for skin color. You've removed the self and society as rational decider of benchmarks, so what's left?
Also, what exactly is fat culture?
Meh, I'm not changing my Don Cheadle skin tone for anybody. Either take me as I am or don't take me at all. I've had to deal with "WOW your SOOOOO black" jokes my whole life, but if anything I think it's just made me focus on building a thicker skin. I agree that people should have the choice to use these products, but unless you have some major affliction directly affecting your skin, I feel like you're just letting racist bastards win and continuing the cycle of misconstrued subconscious ideals of race and skin color.
Skin bleaching could help someone like me be more attractive especially in the gay world.
Angelus Errare
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In that case, makeup and styling covered this up:
For comparison, here's Amerie in 2002 before she had money.
computers putin'
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I know some Jamaican old heads who have the same complexion as Amerie after a few years of skin bleaching. Bleaching seems kinda prevalent in the Jamaican community.
Angelus Errare
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I liked her better when she was brown. Now she looks like a hilarious "do not do this" caricature
If you feel that way, then go for it. But I feel like as people we really shouldn't have to jump through that many hoops to be seen as attractive to someone. Working out, losing weight, buying clothes and building a well-rounded personality is one thing - but going so far as using chemicals to permanently alter my skin tone? Not for me.
Of course, I've grown up seeing fellow friends and men in my family much darker than me with partners of all shades, so I never really saw it as much of a problem. I could definitely understand if it'd make you feel more comfortable though.
PhoenixDark
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwy7BKilBjY
Black women are made to feel inferior at a young age, not just by western beauty standards propagated nonstop in US media but often by their own family. I've lost count how many times I've heard a black person refer to straight hair as "good hair" or blatantly say light skin blacks are preferable over dark skin blacks. It's disgusting.
How many "dark" black women are there in entertainment today? Even those who were once brown are magically becoming less brown (Beyonce is culprit #1).
Black women are made to feel inferior at a young age, not just by western beauty standards propagated nonstop in US media but often by their own family. I've lost count how many times I've heard a black person refer to straight hair as "good hair" or blatantly say light skin blacks are preferable over dark skin blacks. It's disgusting.
How many "dark" black women are there in entertainment today? Even those who were once brown are magically becoming less brown (Beyonce is culprit #1).
FreeMufasa
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ITT: tanning and skin bleaching are equal
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I'm going to continue to do more research on this. I think this skin bleaching could help me
Winterfang
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I heard somewhere that black women (as in African American, not dark skinned hispanics or asians) had the highest single percentage along with Male Asians. Someone about Female Asians dating white guys and Black men dating white girls.
It's sad but true.
Freezie KO
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Physical form? "Excess fat" can be a good benchmark for physical health, but aesthetic appeal? Is it much different than skin tone in the eye of the beholder? Once a little extra fat was deemed attractive because it was a cultural signifier of a wealthy person. Now it's not.
My standards are my standards, and each will have their own. Physical attraction is a cruel master. It might be foolish to pat ourselves on the back for being colorblind with our "benchmarks" while simultaneously discriminating based on fat, height, breast size, ass size, cock size, nose size, shape of your eyes, hair on your head, hair on your body, birthmarks, physical handicaps, abnormalities, symmetry, or any number of things that either are or can be just as out of your control as skin color.
I was referring to the thincentric culture that fat people live in.
Skin whitening cream is nothing new in Asia, particularly in the north. Here, having a pearly white complexion is synonymous with beauty.
I guess it's a cultural thing. Personally, I try as hard as I can to maintain the darkest tan I can possibly obtain. Funny how we all have different perceptions of beauty.
Does this actually work? Ever tested it?
Devolution
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Don't get any foreign/non-US ones, they're known to have mercury in them. Also I noticed it's a drink and not a cream, seems even more bullshit-y.
Angelus Errare
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I have personally yet to meet someone who's bleached their skin that hasn't had deep seeded hate/self esteem issues, minus people with actual skin disorders.
Not completely, statistically there aren't nearly enough black dudes dating white women/hispanic/asian/middle eastern women to make up the contrast that is single black female.
There are alot more factors involved with so many of them being single. It ranges from perceived standards, media portrayal, teenage pregnancies and the men running out, etc. "All the good black men are taken/dating other ethnicities" is basically a cop out.
Not completely, statistically there aren't nearly enough black dudes dating white women/hispanic/asian/middle eastern women to make up the contrast that is single black female.
There are alot more factors involved with so many of them being single. It ranges from perceived standards, media portrayal, teenage pregnancies and the men running out, etc. "All the good black men are taken/dating other ethnicities" is basically a cop out.
Rocket Punch
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You're the one that brought up fitness as a benchmark. In considering what would constitute a physical shortcoming or defect that warrants changing permanently, aesthetic appeal is not the definitive measure; health and anything objectively or subjectively measurable is a usable qualifier. YOU are the one bringing up aesthetics.
Again, I never said a physical feature being out of your control has anything to do with the need to change it. I said, over and over again, that my issue with skin whitening, or the use of excess fat as a comparative measure, is tied into SELF-image and loathing. You're the only one bringing up discrimination in any context.
I have no idea what you're trying to do other than making any negative mention of anything that has to do with fat some kind of incriminating act.
Dead Prince
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